Author Topic: Gamecube Online (Read 12004 times)

KDR_11k · « **Reply #25 on:** March 27, 2004, 06:46:48 PM »

Omen: Smash Bros wouldn't work too well in a laggy environment. Hell, FPS games don't work well in a laggy environment!

Yes, the experienced people are one factor online games aren't that much fun, you'll hit people who know every last exploit in the game and just completely waste you every time you encounter them. This isn't much of a factor in MMOGs that don't involve PvP, but those usually demand money. And teamplay. I mean, yes, you can play cooperative against bots, but why go online when you're fighting the same old AI you fought offline and the only difference is your teammates won't do what you tell them?

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 27, 2004, 08:17:58 PM »

Nintendojo seems to thonk its fake and has even recreated some of this April Fools joke on their own computer using a GC desktop theme released by Nintedo Europe.

off-topic: how do you find out who owns a web site domain?
GamecubeOnline.net
NintendoOnline.net

Deguello · « **Reply #27 on:** March 27, 2004, 10:33:55 PM »

" What are you talking about Paladin, online offers so much replay value and the ability to play with anyone in the world. The competition on online games is so fierce everyone wants to be the best. "

I disagree. While the ability to have opponents all the time may be convenient, the fact of the matter is that Online features are either multiplayer or useless downloads (extra levels, why not include it to begin with?/ PATCHES ARE EVIL.) It is, in fact, the MULTIPLAYER aspect that is giving the game longevity.

" You need to find a group of people to play with. I have a large group of people I play rainbow six 3 with and none are mean and just play for fun but are also really good. None cheat and all can host good servers so its great to have people to play with always.."

That kinda contradicts that whole "Find anyone on earth to play games against" idea, because why not just seacrh out people in your area to play games with? If ound that to be easier, and cheaper.

"Go play FFXl and then well talk"

Oh God Ugh Ack ugh. Fight monsters to level up to fight more monsters. Make it STOP.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #28 on:** March 27, 2004, 11:48:57 PM »

I've been playing online on my PC for years now.

I stand by my statement, it's not all it's cracked up to be.

Finding someone you know to play against on the same TV or on a LAN is WAY better. It's not even close.

The Omen · « **Reply #29 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:12:04 AM »

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Finding someone you know to play against on the same TV or on a LAN is WAY better. It's not even close.

And having an online option would change all that?

Renny · « **Reply #30 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:49:29 AM »

Whois.

Draygaia · « **Reply #31 on:** March 28, 2004, 11:07:24 AM »

But heres the thing friends aren't going to play you anytime of the day. Anytime of the day you feel like it there is always somebody out there to play with online.

theRPGFreak · « **Reply #32 on:** March 28, 2004, 11:25:12 AM »

That's why I dont understand the whole link cable thing! Did Nintnedo ever think when making Four Swords that not everyone has three extra GBAs, 3 link cables, and three other people ready to play when you are? With online gaming you can play anyone anywhere.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #33 on:** March 28, 2004, 03:17:04 PM »

On the GBA thing, it's generally assumed that your friends have their own GBA, as Crystal Chronicles assumed (and look how well that sold in at least February). If you don't have any friends with GBA's, it's time to get some new friends.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #34 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:02:20 PM »

I figured this was fake when I read "There is a slight possibility that you could use the GBA Player with this service as well." Yeah f*cking right. That's just fanboy wishlist stuff. It isn't even slightly realistic.

One thing I do find interesting is that it mentions specifically Nintendo of America as if they want to go online and are going to find a way to make it happen with or without the coopertion of NCL. That's what I interpreted anyway. The whole thing just sounds like them making an official warp pipe style solution for LAN games. In that way it actually sounds like a realistic solution. But then there's talk of Four Sword online support and all sorts of unrealistic stuff that just kills it. People have to learn that when making a hoax make it really sound realistic and resist throwing in anything that's too good to be true.

"That's why I dont understand the whole link cable thing! Did Nintnedo ever think when making Four Swords that not everyone has three extra GBAs, 3 link cables, and three other people ready to play when you are? With online gaming you can play anyone anywhere."

I agree. How is that any easier than setting up an online game? Oh but we're forgetting that with this method Nintendo gets to sell four GBAs and four cables. That's the REAL reason they're favouring this connectivity junk. It's to sell GBAs and nothing more. Online isn't proprietary and thus doesn't let Nintendo sell as much product.

I'm REALLY tired of people telling me that online play sucks so therefore we shouldn't care about it. Um, just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean that I won't and there's nothing wrong with giving people options. I mean I don't like sports games but I don't think the Cube shouldn't have any. A good console provides variety. Forcing the userbase to only go with one option all the time is a big part of the reason why the Cube hasn't amounted to much.

I don't think Nintendo will ever go online with the Cube. It won't make a difference now anyways and I don't imagine they would support it just to be nice to the people who want it. The N5 will be the console where Nintendo goes online. They used this generation to see what options the competition would go with to see what works best with the intention of introducing a "better" solution with the N5. Or at least that's what I hope they're doing. Online play will be a REQUIRED feature next gen and they'll get creamed if they have no plans. But then NCL seems to be run by total loons these days so who knows what they'll do. For all we know the N5 controller will have only one button.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #35 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:07:10 PM »

No offense, Ian, but you're sounding no more plausible or practical than you constantly tell us NCL isn't. :\

Ian Sane · « **Reply #36 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:11:19 PM »

"No offense, Ian, but you're sounding no more plausible or practical than you constantly tell us NCL isn't."

How so?

Mario · « **Reply #37 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:18:28 PM »

We are gamers. We should want what we want Nintendo to give us, not what Nintendo wants to give us. It's all about profit for Nintendo, and i doubt they would take a loss to provide online gaming just to make gamers happy.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #38 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:22:11 PM »

Come on, Ian- I like you a lot, but you're constantly spouting off all this crap, criticizing NCL for things based on your assumptions rather than actual fact. You take one thing and blow it out of proportion, and then rail on Nintendo for it. You're bashing them for the most trivial reasons, and go off on these huge tangents and make wild claims. Do you honestly expect anyone to just blindly follow you into these denunciations of Nintendo? As loony as you're claiming the executives up at NCL are, I think you're being just as loony if not loonier.

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and i doubt they would take a loss to provide online gaming just to make gamers happy.

I won't counter this at all- I've already stated my thoughts on the subject- but I love how you guys make these completely implausible claims, offer no support or evidence to back yourself up, and then expect everyone to agree with you.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #39 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:27:48 PM »

"As loony as you're claiming the executives up at NCL are, I think you're being just as loony if not loonier."

Well my name does suggest I'm insane.

But what actual part of my post sounded impractical? I'm not insulted or anything I'm just curious.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #40 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:36:43 PM »

There's no one specific part, it's the whole idea of your posts, and the frequency of them. It's your entire attitude to any new story about Nintendo- you always find some way to pick it apart and criticize them. You're too much of a pessimist, Ian- you focus more on the negative aspects than the positive ones. You allow one bad thing to completely outweigh all the good things. You need to learn to be happy with what you have rather than complain about what you don't have. You seem to perky to be a pessimist, Ian, but your writing reflects the opposite.

Mario · « **Reply #41 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:46:20 PM »

Yay, lets all play and discuss PS2 then, there's nothing but optimism in that direction!

I'm getting a bit annoyed at Nintendo myself, because they aren't providing me with enough quality lately, maybe it's just this current first party game drought talking, but i'm drifting further away from Nintendo games and closer to other consoles by the day. I really hope Nintendo restore my faith at E3, but i'm doubtful. Oh well, I will wait. Nintendo has made me comfortable with long waits.

If Nintendo announced a Pokemon game that was online i would explode in tears of joy, but hey, the chances of that happening aren't very good, so i'll just stop hoping and go play something else.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #42 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:48:26 PM »

Okey-doke. If I come across as pessimistic it's probably because I don't usually post when I'm happy about something. This is "where Planet Gamecube readers go to b!tch about everything." I don't see a bunch of "Nintendo is doing everything right" threads. I usually just respond to the topics given and if my opinion on that subject is negative that's just how it is.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #43 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:50:52 PM »

You missed my point, Mario. I'm not saying you should -ignore- the things that Nintendo is doing wrong, which they most definitely are doing, but that doesn't mean you should let them overshadow the good things, especially when they vastly outnumber the bad things.

Ian: But why are you almost always negative? You give the impression that those are the only thoughts going through your head, bad ones. Just because this is a forum is no excuse to constantly be negative- I'm positive half the time and negative half the time, and I've found that's the perfect balance. You seem to always weed out the good things and foucs on the bad things. Why?

Berny · « **Reply #44 on:** March 28, 2004, 05:56:20 PM »

Mario, wasn't Nintendo's problem on the N64 that they released too many good first party titles in too close succession? Wasn't that why Ninty lost so much 3rd party support? I realize that isn't the only factor but it was certainly a major one that has greatly affected the Gamecube.

I have a question for all ye posters regarding online gaming. Is it not more fun to be in a room with a group of friends and playing a game? I don't know about you but I have so many memories and jokes created from hours and hours burned away on Mario Party 4 and Super Smash Bros Melee. I wouldn't have those if I'd been playing online. It's not the same to me. Obviously you are entitled to your own opinion, but I believe that online gaming takes away from the multiplayer experience.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #45 on:** March 28, 2004, 07:06:41 PM »

"Is it not more fun to be in a room with a group of friends and playing a game?"

I think so too. Playing with friends in the same room is a blast. However my friends and I aren't together as a group all of the time so online play would let me play with them more often. When they come over we would play together of course but when not everone is around we can play too. Think of online play not as a replacement for four player multiplayer but rather as an addition to it. It's just another way to play with your friends. Plus I can play with you guys on the forum with online play. I can't do that otherwise. Online play isn't all playing with strangers.

"Ian: But why are you almost always negative?"

Beats me. How should I know? I'm not actively trying to be negative or anything.

Rich · « **Reply #46 on:** March 29, 2004, 10:26:05 AM »

Yeah I would love to take some of you guys on in smash bros.

theRPGFreak · « **Reply #47 on:** March 29, 2004, 03:03:18 PM »

I also think that playing with a group of friends is more fun too, but you cant do it all the time. Because of school and work, I only get to hang out with my friends once every week or two, depending on our job schedules. That is why online gaming works easier for us.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #48 on:** March 29, 2004, 03:41:41 PM »

Depends on the gameplay style, for me.

Berny · « **Reply #49 on:** March 29, 2004, 06:31:37 PM »

As I said before, I do not have any interest in playing online. It seems to anonymous. As much as I'd like to Smash or Kart you guys to death, I don't think I'd like to do it online. What would I gain from that? I'd see your character do some cool stuff, but I really would not learn anything about the person behind Bowser. It might as well be just another computer I'm playing against. Surely a smarter and more alert computer, but AI is getting better and better and the difference is hard to tell. Espcially on the harder levels of difficulty. Also, I won't be able to be like, "Hey Ian! Remember that one time in Super Smash Bros when..."

Basically, I don't see online play as a way of playing with friends when they can't be there. I see it as playing against computers with different skill levels.

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Author Topic: Gamecube Online (Read 12004 times)