Topic: Final Fantasy:Guilty Wing???

[Ian Sane]

"You can't just run ahead all the time, or your party might not be strong enough. So you spend time training 'em and looking for better weapons and such so that you don't end up almost dead hoping you can reach the next save point. Taking 'em out kinda changes the whole genre in a way."

Well it should be my CHOICE if my party isn't strong enough.  The game shouldn't FORCE me to level up and battle.  I should be able to do what I please.  And how does removing them change the genre?  SEEING the enemies ahead of time isn't going to completely change RPGs forever.

I've noticed the random battle arguement tends to fall into two camps.  RPG fans support them because they enjoy a very specific genre and thus like everything the way it is.  General videogame fans (like myself) hate random battles because to us they're out-of-date and annoying and we're used to having more choices and control in other videogames.  I've always been turned off by dumb limitations in videogames.  This includes enemies that kill you because you touched their nose with your toe, invisible walls, forced camera angles, and random battles.  Thus to me an RPG cannot reach perfection if it uses random battles.

[Draygaia]

I to also don't like random battles and I do believe they can avoid that.  Although if I do see the enemy I don't want to be able to go into another area and then go back and see it do the exact same movements.  But to me I really like the FF series and random battles aren't going to just make me not play the game because I really like the story.  What they could do is use something similar to the Aurora or Infinity Engine of D&D RPGs and if you do come across a boss the battle area can change and you can play it like FF but I still want to directly control the characters like the Tales of Phantasia/Symphonia.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

I wish Tales of Symphonia came out already so I wouldn't have to "randomly encounter" these threads.  

[jmoe316]

well it looks like its confirmed:

Final Fantasy: Guilty Wing on Cube-Europe

Although I guess it could still be false, since like what was said above, this is the magazine who dropped the Never Happening bomb. Let's just hope it's true though! Hopefully some PGC staff can confirm/deny this for us??

[KDR_11k]

Your story doesn't prove anything, look at the last line (the one saying "Source: Spong")
C-E claimed there was no article, now they claim there was one... What in the name of all seven-and-a-half hells???

Random Encounters suck. Plain as that. They limit your ability to move (since you want to move as little as possible when every step counts), they're f###ing annoying (in SoA:L it took longer to load the battle than to mow 'em down!) and they're rarely challenging. Also, the dungeons look pretty empty without all the monsters displayed.

[Chongman]

we don't sound like those guys on this forum, now do we? *shudders* Makes me appreciate the general intelligence of PGC forums...

anywhos, that's kickin information. Whether it's true or not remains to be seen. I think the whole net should be taking this with a grain of salt until it is officially announced by Square-Enix, less we have nintendo fanatics run down the streets proclaiming the second coming (FF that is).

[Draygaia]

If there was one game I liked with random encounter battles it would have to Pokemon.  I mean it wasn't that bad IMO.  The areas you have to go through with pokemon weren't that life threatening and after a while they became place you would go to for a hunting kind of thing instead of them hunting you.

[Mannypon]

personally I like the random encounters but only to an extent.  I do feel you on some of the things youve said like hinderin the exploration process or gettin in the way while you tryin to run to a save point.  I think the only place for random fights are in the overworld and once you go into a location then you have the enemies visible.  Thats the perfect mix IMO.

[nitsu niflheim]

I like random battles, but I like it better when you are given a choice to stop them, like in several Final Fantasy games, 8 and 10 especially.

[Procession]

Goddamn, this whole thread has degenerated into a lame fight about random battles.

NEW FINAL FANTASY.

Who cares if it has Squall as the main character? God, honestly. NEW FINAL FANTASY.

I can't believe anyone would whine about that, no matter the circumstances.

[Mannypon]

true, back to the topic at hand.  I read that story in gamecube europe and they speak of the initial picture, the then sources which claimed it all to be false and then they speak of the actual issue of vjump that has addition pictures ( not in game shots) regarding the story.  I dont know exactly how true this can be but if they seen it right from the issue itself then odds are that its true.  They say the game takes play in the ff7 universe so I dont see how squall of ff8 will fit in.  Rumors before this have said that the rumored ff game in developement for gc was either 7,8, and 9 all in one or more recently that the game was goin to take influences from those 3 games.  So far its all coming together I guess.  FF7 univers, FF8 character and we still have yet to see what else is planned for this.  Hopefully the story is true and this is actually a true RPG and not the experiment that FF:CC was (even though it was a good game but it upon playing it, they couldve done so much more and you can see all the potential)

[Ian Sane]

"I can't believe anyone would whine about that, no matter the circumstances."

What if it's Final Fantasy Mystic Quest 2?

[Draygaia]

Guilty Wing......... 7,8,9......  I trust G-Spot for them not saying bogus.  The only thing I want them to bring back from FFVII was that complex story only.  Nothing else.  FFIX owned them in that section.

[Mannypon]

where did you read that about gspot sayin not bogus?  The one I read said ff12 beind delayed as not bogus but the ff game for gc rumor as bein bogus.  I hope this all turns out to be true, cuase a new more traditional ff is always welcome.  Also, I want to see how they'll combine the 3 games themes and what is the meaning to the title.  I think the title guilty wing sounds like an action game but I hope I'm wrong.

[Bill Aurion]

A traditional FF-style RPG has actually been in the works at GDS for a while now, though I really doubt it will be aligned with the stories of 7, 8, and 9...Maybe it's because I'm praying for something fresh and original...

[Mannypon]

from the rumors Ive read, I dont think it'll be allied but it supposed to take inspiration and sample some themes from those 3.

[Termin8Anakin]

I love the love stories (i'm a hopeless romantic of the typical asian kind ) of the main FF series like FFVIII and FFX, and if they give GC something like that, then I may be tempted to buy my first FF game - and my first RPG.

[jmoe316]

hmmm, well according to IGN, *puts up shield* they say this is false, and say there is no such thing in V-Jump. Guess will have to...*puts up second shiled*...wait for E3 04!

IGN Mailbag

[ruby_onix]

Of course, IGN also says that Square has "something else" in the works for the GameCube, which is what GameSpot's rumor control claims to be "bogus".

I'm not going to take anyone's word on this stuff. Nobody seems to know what the heck is going on.

[Mannypon]

dam, someone needs to get some scans up of these supposed pages in the vjump

[Uncle Rich AiAi]

The only thing I'm certain is going on, is someone is playing the spin doctor very well!

[ThePerm]

meh i think theres a ff in development...but this looks like a hoax

[Berny]

Hoax? Or NOT hoax?
I hope it doesn't (ab)use the GBA linky thingy as much as CC did.

[Mannypon]

sh*t sucks, wish it was e3 already lol

[Chongman]

Madness! IT'S ALL MADNESS!!!!!!!

*runs down the street on fire*