Author Topic: Final Fantasy:Guilty Wing??? (Read 15624 times)

Pale · « **Reply #25 on:** March 21, 2004, 07:00:30 AM »

Wait, so is it true that it says "Kingdom Hearts II PS2 * GCN at the bottom? or is that just a confusion???

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #26 on:** March 21, 2004, 07:34:19 AM »

Well no one really knows for sure yet... :\

Aretak · « **Reply #27 on:** March 21, 2004, 09:08:48 AM »

Final Fantasy VIII was an amazing game... the story was complex and interesting, the world was vibrant and large, and the battle system was a big improvement over Final Fantasy VII, in my opinion. It has the best FMV of any of them, and probably the best ending as well. Squall was a decent lead character, and the supporting cast were interesting enough.

Despite the fact I still don't believe this news, a new Final Fantasy game starring Squall would interest me greatly.

Chongman · « **Reply #28 on:** March 21, 2004, 10:49:43 AM »

ff VII was an above par game...but the battle system was stale and bland rather then original as it was supposed to be. The fmvs rocked and the story was top notch, but man the battle system just wasn't FUN.

If this IS true, and both guilty wing AND kingdom hearts II are BOTH coming to the gamecube...oh square enix....could it be true?

I would parade down the streets proclaiming dreams can become reality.

Aretak · « **Reply #29 on:** March 21, 2004, 11:44:18 AM »

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Originally posted by: Chongman
ff VII was an above par game...but the battle system was stale and bland rather then original as it was supposed to be.

It's easy to say that now after experiencing the perfection that was Final Fantasy X's battle system, but at the time VIII's was pretty damn good. I liked the fact that it was more complex than VII's, and required a little more thought about what to do for each turn (be it to draw, attack or otherwise).

Koopa Troopa · « **Reply #30 on:** March 21, 2004, 11:58:36 AM »

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On another note, Final Fantasy: Guilty Wing takes "inspirations" from Final Fantasy 7-9, and Squall Leonheart from FF8 will be the main character. "

GCA

Meh...I can't stand FFVIII... ;___;

NOOOOO! Not Squall, good God, anyone but Squall. This sucks. I swear if they use that stupid magic system from VIII I'll kill someone.

Darc Requiem · « **Reply #31 on:** March 21, 2004, 12:46:10 PM »

Well the stories a fake so don't go worrying yourselfs. GCadvanced.com has the info confirming the story as false. FF8 was the worst Final Fantasy game I've played. So I'm glad its a fake. I despised FF7 and FF8 was even worse. I'm sure there really is a traditional Final Fantasy game in development for GC though. There is too much smoke around this story for it to be baseless. After the travesty that was FFX-2 I'm weary of a sequel. If they did make another sequel, I wouldn't mine one to Final Fantasy 4 but that would be contigent on Square not botching it.

Darc Requiem

ruby_onix · « **Reply #32 on:** March 21, 2004, 12:54:45 PM »

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Originally posted by: Bill
"The game will be titled Final Fantasy: Guilty Wing and is planned as a GameCube exclusive. It is being developed by Game Designer's Studio and is said to follow the more traditional style of Final Fantasy games that most all fans have grown to love.

On another note, Final Fantasy: Guilty Wing takes "inspirations" from Final Fantasy 7-9, and Squall Leonheart from FF8 will be the main character. "

GCA

Meh...I can't stand FFVIII... ;___;

GameCube Advanced has updated, saying it's fake.

"Update: It seems that the story has proven to be false according to Japanese sources. Apparently, the newest issue of V-Jump does not report on any new information regarding a Final Fantasy title for GameCube."

But I think GCA was jumping the gun, saying that V-Jump said it's a "traditional" FF game, and that it'll be starring Squall, and all sorts of other stuff not supported by that page scan. If this teaser page is right, then V-Jump isn't reporting anything about a new FF game right now. They're teasing us, saying that they will say something next month.

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Wait, so is it true that it says "Kingdom Hearts II PS2 * GCN at the bottom? or is that just a confusion???

It says "ki n gu do mu ha-- tsu 2 PS2 - GCN fu a i na ru fu a n to shi-- A.C- DVD" (a long dash is supposed to be held for a second while pronouncing it).

Cleaned up, that's "Kingdom Hearts 2 PS2 - GCN Final Fantasy A.C- DVD"

"Final Fantasy A.C- DVD" seems to mean FF: Advent Children, so it should probably be split like this.
Kingdom Hearts 2 PS2 - GCN
Final Fantasy A.C- DVD

But that's assuming it wasn't a typo, or a Freudian slip, or (as most of the naysayers seem to believe), maybe the entire page isn't real, and was made up by someone with Photoshop (even though nobody has found the slightest evidence to suggest that, beyond simple "doubt").

Uncle Rich AiAi · « **Reply #33 on:** March 21, 2004, 03:36:45 PM »

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Originally posted by: Darc Requiem
Well the stories a fake so don't go worrying yourselfs. GCadvanced.com has the info confirming the story as false. FF8 was the worst Final Fantasy game I've played. So I'm glad its a fake. I despised FF7 and FF8 was even worse. I'm sure there really is a traditional Final Fantasy game in development for GC though. There is too much smoke around this story for it to be baseless. After the travesty that was FFX-2 I'm weary of a sequel. If they did make another sequel, I wouldn't mine one to Final Fantasy 4 but that would be contigent on Square not botching it.

Darc Requiem

I'm glad there's someone I can agree with on FF8 and FFX-2!

If GC gets a "traditional" FF game, I would like it to have new characters & story, not Squall.

Pale · « **Reply #34 on:** March 21, 2004, 04:45:12 PM »

I want the gamecube to get a traditional FF *style* game from square... And I want the main character to be named Link.

Berny · « **Reply #35 on:** March 21, 2004, 05:30:07 PM »

Are you implying that you want a Lara Croft RPG?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #36 on:** March 21, 2004, 06:47:15 PM »

If they ever again include Squall, please, give us the option to kill random people. This guy let Seifer run away waaay too often when a single decapitation could have saved the world. They should use a character like Ryudo from Grandia II (I could at least identify with him and didn't get the urge to kill him or his girlfriend, as opposed to Squall).

Mannypon · « **Reply #37 on:** March 21, 2004, 07:37:12 PM »

if they were to make a sequal to any of the ff games I'd say either 4 or 6 (def 6 IMO) 6 had a huge selection of characters and the majority of them were all great and memorable. Also, on a side note, I hope they let us name the dam characters. I used to love naming everyone in my group. I know it sounds stupid but it helped me feel more involved in the game. I doubt it though, with all the voice acting and whatnot in rpgs today, they dont give the option of customization anymore cuase the names are in the voice acted scripts. Sh*t sucks ass.

Ocarina Blue · « **Reply #38 on:** March 21, 2004, 10:12:07 PM »

FF II and III are awsome. Although (except an hour or so of FFVII which I hated) I haven't played the more recent ones. Personally, I don't see why Square-Enix shouldn't just make something original: like they did 90% of the other ones.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #39 on:** March 22, 2004, 06:20:32 AM »

"Final Fantasy: Guilty Wing takes "inspirations" from Final Fantasy 7-9, and Squall Leonheart from FF8 will be the main character."

So let's see here. FF7 is argueably the most popular RPG or all time and FF9 has a huge cult following. So naturally the main character from FF8 is used. I don't quite see the logic there.

This "teaser" is from VJump. The last time they "teased" something it created the whole stupid MEGAT0N thing. I think I'm going to assume that all of this is bullsh!t and not get my hopes up.

If we get something else from Square Enix I would like it to be something unique and original instead of another Final Fantasy game. There's some really irritating flaws in the FF formula (random battles for example) that reappear in EVERY game because it's "tradition" or some equally stupid excuse and if they make something unique they can do whatever they want and not be limited by the FF license. Do you know what types of games Square makes when they have complete freedom to do what they want? Games like Chrono Trigger and Vagrant Story.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #40 on:** March 22, 2004, 06:38:33 AM »

Agreed...Random battles should be a thing of past by now...

Sirmorphix · « **Reply #41 on:** March 22, 2004, 07:32:32 AM »

I don't understand why everyone hates random battle so much. Personally I couldn't care one way or the other. If anything I almost prefer it, the only big exceptions that come to mind are Chrono Trigger and Earthbound.

Chongman · « **Reply #42 on:** March 22, 2004, 07:35:00 AM »

So should Ralph Nader and the presidential ballot, but somethings never do change...

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #43 on:** March 22, 2004, 07:39:28 AM »

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I don't understand why everyone hates random battle so much. Personally I couldn't care one way or the other. If anything I almost prefer it, the only big exceptions that come to mind are Chrono Trigger and Earthbound.

I like having the option of avoiding battles...

Ian Sane · « **Reply #44 on:** March 22, 2004, 07:44:47 AM »

"I don't understand why everyone hates random battle so much."

Because they're random and I'm not a big fan of being forced to battle when I want to get to the save point or I desperately need to heal. I don't like having my ability to explore compromised by enemies poping out of nowhere. And most important of all Chrono Trigger and Super Mario RPG didn't have them and sure enough they're about a hundred times better than any other RPG I've ever played. The main reason I hate random battles is we've had BETTER so it makes no sense to stick with an inferior design. Plus most developers use them to artificially make a game longer and those sort of tactics in ANY game design piss me off.

rpglover · « **Reply #45 on:** March 22, 2004, 10:28:32 AM »

i will say about random battles that i am not bothered by them, but i would rather have a game without them
but has anyone realized that the rpgs without random battles are usually the ones with really great battle systems- for example the grandia series, mario rpg series, chrono trigger, earthbound, and one of my favorite rpgs of all time- valkyrie profile- of course there are some exceptions- some of the tales series games have random battles, but the battle system was very fun

WesDawg · « **Reply #46 on:** March 22, 2004, 11:01:53 AM »

I kind like Random Encounters. They're what made RPG's RPGs for a long time. They're also a huge part of what makes 'em challenging. You can't just run ahead all the time, or your party might not be strong enough. So you spend time training 'em and looking for better weapons and such so that you don't end up almost dead hoping you can reach the next save point. Taking 'em out kinda changes the whole genre in a way. In a way that makes it easier for pansies to play. HA HA HA! Yeah that's right. You're a big pansy whoever it was that doesn't like 'em. Role playing used to be about playing a role. Building a team that was unique and your own. Now its more about telling some retarded love story where you really have no control over your characters. Ok thats not true, but nobody complained about 'em when RPGs first came out, and it wasn't cause we couldn't imagine better. It's because they were a big part of the game. Beating FF1 wasn't just about fighting Chaos in the end, it was about the uber-difficulty you had to contend with just to get to him and then to hope you still had enough energy/magic left for the fight. They were part of the challenge. Anyways, I like 'em despite also being discouraged by 'em occasionally. I think you're just not an RPG fan (Mario RPG, while fun, would not be most people's favorite ever), but some sort of half-breed fan of these weird new hybrid genre's that have come out in the wake. That's just my opinion though.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #47 on:** March 22, 2004, 11:37:16 AM »

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some of the tales series games have random battles, but the battle system was very fun

And that's what Tales of Symphonia improves on... ^_^

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #48 on:** March 22, 2004, 11:39:49 AM »

I don't think random encounters is necessarily inferior, I just prefer seeing the enemies. It gives the player more freedom since they can decide whether or not to fight, and hence level up, whereas random encounters keep you on a fairly strict schedule. As a result, nearly all of my favorite RPG's, like Grandia 2, Chrono Trigger, and Earthbound, show the enemies on screen. I still love RPG's with random encounters, though, like Pokemon, Golden Sun, and Skies of Arcadia.

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I think you're just not an RPG fan (Mario RPG, while fun, would not be most people's favorite ever), but some sort of half-breed fan of these weird new hybrid genre's that have come out in the wake.

Simple dislike of random ecounters doesn't make Ian any less of an RPG than you. I hate it when people say you're not a "true" RPG fan unless you like straight turn based titles with completely random encounters. Grandia 2 is, in my opinion, the finest RPG ever made, and not only does it show the enemies on screen but uses a battle system that seamlessly combines elements of real time and turn based combat. I'd rather developers keep trying new things with RPG's than sticking to one style.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #49 on:** March 22, 2004, 11:40:15 AM »

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They're also a huge part of what makes 'em challenging. You can't just run ahead all the time, or your party might not be strong enough. So you spend time training 'em and looking for better weapons and such so that you don't end up almost dead hoping you can reach the next save point. Taking 'em out kinda changes the whole genre in a way. In a way that makes it easier for pansies to play. HA HA HA! Yeah that's right. You're a big pansy whoever it was that doesn't like 'em.

Meh, it's more challenging to take on your enemy with a weaker party...That should be easy to see...

And Pokemon and GS need to random, considering the limitations of the GBA (And even in Pokemon, you can sometimes choose when you want to fight or not by just staying out of caves/tall grass) I'm really hoping the next Golden Sun(console version) won't be "random-battled," but I know the story will make up for it if it's not...

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Author Topic: Final Fantasy:Guilty Wing??? (Read 15624 times)