Topic: Motal Kombat : Deception

[vudu]

what about midway arcade treasures, which is 24 games on a single disc?  does that cound at 24 titles or just one?

[Ian Sane]

I would count Midway Arcade Treasures as one title.  Plus the best games in that collection are made by Williams and Atari Games and the only reason they appear in a "Midway" collection is because Midway has since bought the rights to those companies.  So really if you think about it Midway themselves were never that great beyond a few titles.

[The Omen]

Developers like Midway will never be in the top echelon, just for reasons like this.  The game sold 200,000, which had to make them money.  Thats 10 million$ if my math is correct.  PLus factor in the gore loving xbox fanatics, and now were up to 600 thousand.  I believe the PS2 version sold around a million.  So, they sold 1.6 million copies of a game at 50$ a pop.  Thats somewhere around 75-80 million dollars in sales.  You mean to tell me that cutting a third of your potential market will make you more money?  I just don't see it happeneing.  Even if you consider the GC only 20% of the overall sales, cutting out 20% of your sales doesnt make a lot of sense.  They can say 'cut their losses', but what they're really doing is cutting potential buyers out of the loop.  How much can it cost to even just port a game over?  They are the kings of crappy ports, you'd think they'd at least give GC owners the usual.  Sorry for my semi-rant, i'm just tired of getting the shaft, even if it is a crap game.

[soracloudtidus]

Well let me tell you, your not the only one that is tired of this trend of " X company shafts GC." I'm pretty tired of this too. But you also got to consider this, GC buyers demand quality games not crappy ports that X company does and then blames sales so they don't have to put more games on our system. It's not our fault you make crappy ports or crappy games, we are the ones that put $50 of our pockets for good quality games. Some companys keep it with Nintendo like Capcom. RE4 and Killer 7 look very sweet. Why not keep a franchise like MK on a Nintendo system? And also not everyone has a PS2 or an Xbox to go buy this game, and this is a bad move for midway because your closing an audience that will affect your sales in the long run.

[kusanagi]

1) I don't think makes sense to cut development if you can garner profits from the GC.  If not then it fiscally makes sense

2) You talk about crappy ports to the NGC.  But regardless of a crappy game/port whatever, bottomline it sells better on other systems so if they're crappy ports do better on the XBox/PS2 then hey something's working.   It's possible N-Gamers are just more selective in their titles, and if so it just supports Midway's decision to not port their "crappy" game to the more "conscious" N-gamer because they're not going to buy it.

[odifiend]

I completely agree with kusanagi.  Midway shouldn't even bother to port a lot of their games to GCN because of N-fans are in the know and decide way ahead of time what they are getting and what they aren't.  Midway stuff just doesn't make the final cut.  Still Mortal Kombat really should be the exception, the title use to be a blockbuster and is probably one of the most recognizable franchises in video games.  Especially with its recent improvement, I bet more N-fans would have bought this MK.  Midway, seal the deal by getting the rights to Ganondorf for Deception.

[soracloudtidus]

Over at mortalkombatonline.com says that a gba version of MK: Deception is not planned. But also says that a Midway representative said that the GC version is still being consider. Well some bad news, and kinda of a good news if u ask me. MK not portable? oh  well I can live with that but no MK for GC well that I don't. So now midway wants to shaft not only the GC but the GBA too? Whats wrong  with this guys?

[Ian Sane]

"But regardless of a crappy game/port whatever, bottomline it sells better on other systems so if they're crappy ports do better on the XBox/PS2 then hey something's working."

In a way that's true but the PS2 versions, which always sell the best, are usually not crappy ports.  Most multiplatform games are designed as PS2 games first and are then ported to the other consoles.  As a result the Xbox and Cube are most likely to get inferior versions.  I guess you could say that Xbox fans buy crappy ports but PS2 fans rarely do because they rarely get them.  Spy Hunter for example was much MUCH better on the PS2.

[KDR_11k]

Errrm, even Sony is complaining about how multiplatform games don't use their machine to the max and look inferior. They said only one(!) game uses the PS2's full potential. Now if that isn't a testament to the difficulty devs are experiencing with this architecture...