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« Reply #75 on: February 26, 2004, 12:35:29 PM »
Upon further reflection I realized how lame the Temple of Time idea was, and here is why.
Maybee they got bored of the most sacred landmark in Hyrule, and decide to put in a Famer John's Market, and piss off the Gods! "We dont need to keep this sacred building here! Lets tear it down and piss off the Gods!"
See my point?
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« Reply #76 on: February 26, 2004, 12:37:18 PM »
Uhhh... Link to the Past, and Links Awakening can't really be tied to anything. Same can be said with Oarcle of Ages/Seasons.
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« Reply #77 on: February 26, 2004, 12:39:02 PM »
Hey dude anything could have happened in 100-1000 years. The Egyptians used to worship Horus and Isis, the greeks used to worship Zues and Athena buti dont see anyone worshiping these gods now. not to mention many of their momuments have been destroyed.

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« Reply #78 on: February 26, 2004, 12:39:50 PM »
RPGFreak: Let's work with what we know from Wind Waker- Ganondorf broke out the seal and wreaked havoc across the land, but Link was not there to stop him (since he had left in Majora's Mask). The Goddesses then flooded Hyrule to drive him out, and he only returned at the beginning of Wind Waker. Is it not probable that when Ganondorf returned he destroyed much of Hyrule, including the Temple of Time that caused him so much turmoil?
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« Reply #79 on: February 26, 2004, 12:41:30 PM »
At the beginning of WW, the people went to the Gods for help, and that was when they flodded Hyrule. They were obviously worshping the same Gods.
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« Reply #80 on: February 26, 2004, 12:42:50 PM »
Mouseclicker...You have shown me the light! Now it is starting to make sense!
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« Reply #81 on: February 26, 2004, 12:45:04 PM »
You know, I think that SK could make one hell of a story for the Zelda series.

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« Reply #82 on: February 26, 2004, 12:52:47 PM »
I'm sure everything will begin to tie in back together in the sequel...
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« Reply #83 on: February 26, 2004, 02:01:37 PM »
"Yeah, and the Zoras evolved into the bird people from Wind Waker in less than 100 years- clearly Zelda's universe doesn't follow ours to the T."

And to makes things weirder they're fish people in the other Zelda games as well only they look completely different.  More like the creature from the black lagoon.  At one time period do those games take place?

Personally I liked the Zelda storyline much better when it was implied that there were several Links but the games weren't tied together directly.  It was a lot more subtle and there were less in-your-face inconsistencies.  Once Nintendo actually tried to directly connect the storylines they introduced this stupid water world stuff that really f*cked everything up.  Then they explicitly said Wind Waker takes place 1000 years later thus making it damn near impossible for the other games to happen in between.  Hopefully everything will be resolved in the next game.  Because of Wind Waker I find the overall Zelda storyline is totally wanged.  And please don't give me this alternate timeline stuff.  That's WAY too complex and I doubt Nintendo thinks of it in those terms.  It makes some sense but it's too confusing.

My theory for the order is as follows (Oracle games don't really fit in but they're not EAD games anyway):

OoT/MM
LttP/LA
WW
LoZ/AoL  <-- this is last because in this game Hyrule is seperated into East and West which is not present in the previous titles.  My theory is it was split by the great flood or a new Hyrule was discovered and established thus being the same in name only.

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« Reply #84 on: February 26, 2004, 02:12:56 PM »
The Zoras that we see in the future games are River Zoras, which are basically evil versions of the peace-loving Zoras...I believe it was in the Oracle series that it was explained...(I consider LttP to be the first chronological Zelda game with River Zoras)Oh, and it's impossible for the other games to fit inbetween OoT and WW because they happen AFTER WW, imo...(OoT/MM, WW, LttP(remember, Ganon still had his piece of the Triforce when he was locked up in the Sacred Realm...Not to mention that he's still in human form in WW...So there's no way LttP could be before WW)...I think OoA/S comes after LttP, because the Triforce is together(like the end of LttP)...

(But I like your idea of LoZ/AoL... )  
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« Reply #85 on: February 26, 2004, 04:04:14 PM »
I feel the races in Oot, MM, and WW complicated the series.  I thought they held an ideal of simplicity and accessability.  I didn't like all of the wierd species and hated the evolution which I try to just ignore.  Too little time passed for such changes, too much time passed without technological progression to seem logical, and too much time passed between stories for the mythos to make much sense or for the gamer to feel connections.  Its like the new trilogy of Star Wars and how it is becoming evidently sucky in comparison to the classic genre movies of yesteryear.

There have always been mystical races in the series, but they should remain consistent; and they shouldn't change the rules of the universe with each installment while not really changing anything about the adventure or story.  Four Swords though actually changes the gameplay.  All Zelda needs now is lots of AI in the computer controlled characters and emphasizing on a story that could be both simple and epic without interupting the flow of the game.  There just hasn't been a real story in a Zelda game even though each story gets more complex they haven't created any story with the literary equivalent value to the value of the art and gameplay found in the games already.

I also believe that the first Zelda was the hardest in the series, WW is the easiest, and LttP is the bowl of grits that's just right.

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« Reply #86 on: February 26, 2004, 04:32:05 PM »
Arguing about this is pointless, the series has always taken our world and twisted it to suit it's own purposes. Evolving over a period of 100 or 1000 years isn't realisistic; but neither is a humanoid species that can fly, boats that talk, happy pirates, people with big heads, and so forth.

Remember all text in the game has been subject to translation, so the word 'evolve' could be simply be a word that didn't suit English too well. Too many uncertainties exist for any logical conclusion to come forth.
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RE: SK developing next Zelda
« Reply #87 on: February 26, 2004, 07:21:59 PM »
Why did nobody complain about the people who evolved into mermen in less than 1000 years in Futurama?

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« Reply #88 on: February 27, 2004, 06:25:26 AM »
My issue was with the fact that Zoras evolved at all.   A water dwelling people, suddenly evolving into a flying people when the world flooded?  It just doesn't logically follow.  Zoras were already adapted for a flood.  If the Gorons had evolved into a people with lighter bones and that could fly that would make much more sense.  But at times like this, we all should suspend our disbelief .
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« Reply #89 on: February 27, 2004, 11:54:17 AM »
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Why did nobody complain about the people who evolved into mermen in less than 1000 years in Futurama?


Because the caffeine from the Coca Cola factory sped up their evolution! Weren't you paying attention to the episode?
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« Reply #90 on: February 27, 2004, 01:03:23 PM »
My theory on how Ganon got out for WW is this.
He wasn't completly out at first.  Part of him escaped because of the 7 there were only 2 sages left.  He killed the other 2 to fully cross over.  It makes sence if u've ever read "Dragonlance"