Topic: GC dance mat game?

[Tempestt03]

My sister just got a gamecube and I want to get her a game like dance dance revolution (and a mat) but I'm having trouble finding one.  Does anyone know if there is such a game for Gamecube?  Every other system seems to have one *scratches head*  Are there plans to release one any time soon?  

[mouse_clicker]

Nope, Konami appears to be headed by the same people as Fox and decided to release Dance Dance Revolution on the Xbox instead of the Gamecube. What prompted them to make such a ludicrous decision is beyond me, but sadly, there are no dancing games for the Gamecube.

However, there is a bongo game, Donkey Konga, due out soon in the US!  

[Tempestt03]

Thanks for such a quick reply!!

That's very disappointing...I played DDR for the first time last night and had a ton of fun.  My sister is really into that kind of thing right now....she'd go ape over it.

Forgive me for asking a dumb question, but what is a bongo game?

[mouse_clicker]

I share you sadness- DDR is one of my favorite games ever. I have a PS2 primarily to play it, and even spent $130 on a metal home pad.

Anyway, a bongo game is a music game, similar to DDR, that uses bongo drum controllers. Beyond that I don't know much more, but reportedly Donkey Kongo is very fun.

[Tempestt03]

That sounds fun too...maybe I'll go for that one.  Thanks a lot for your help!

[Cap]

i wouldnt count on ddr coming to gamecube anytime soon.

well, unless nintendo gets one of their second partys to develop the game and then allows konami to publish it.  

[kirby_killer_dedede]

Well, actually, Donkey Konga is not a bongo game, but a conga game.  Hence the name.  Duh.

Basically, there's a pair of congo drums as a controller, with a mike built in.  On the screen, a certain color means hit the right drum, another color means hit the left drum, another means to clap (the mike senses it), another means to hit them at the same time, another means to give a drumroll starting with the right hand, another says to give a drumroll start with the left hand, another says to clap your hands off...there's infinite amount of possibilities, and it's basically DDR.  Except you can't use this one as a replacment for the dusty treadmill.

[MysticalMatt517]

Yeah, I own an XBOX and pretty much all I play on it anymore is DDR: Ultramix. I LOVE that game!

I had a theory for a while, but the more I researched it the more holes I found. At first I thought that perhaps DDR wasn't possible on the GC because it would be hard to fit all the music files on the smaller disc. Then I looked at DDR as a game and realized that while it looks good, it isn't nearly as complicated as some of the other stuff on the GC. With a decent compression scheme there's no reason why it couldn't be done.

Actually, you know what would be cool? DDR on a GBA. Before you all throw rocks at me think outside the box for a second. On Tech TV I saw a keyboard that was just a projection. It could be projected on to any surface and then you could type on it. Don't ask me how it worked but it did. Surly if you can do that with a keyboard you could do it with four DDR squares! The only thing would be taking into account that your Gameboy would move as you danced...  

[KDR_11k]

Hahaha, what I wouldn't give to see people act like complete jerks in public... That's even better than Eyetoy!

[S-U-P-E-R]

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Actually, you know what would be cool? DDR on a GBA.

Did you know that DDR already came out for GBC? Three times? There was a wacky little finger pad accessory, too.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Thats cool and funk playing DDR with fingers hah.

[mouse_clicker]

You can do it on the PS2 as well- most people don't, though, because it's no fun.

[Flames_of_chaos]

true  its just a crappy substitute.  A reason Konami wont put DDR on cube is the 1.5GB disc  but DDR was done on the PSone didnt it have a pretty good ammount of songs for a 600 - 800 MB disc?

[mouse_clicker]

With compression, Konami could fit a lot more music on the disc, too. Really, there is no technical excuse for Konami not to put DDR on the Gamecube.

[manunited4eva22]

Lets think about this.  Let's say konami had 120 songs.  Each was a 50MB .wav file.  Thats 800MB.  They could literally put the entire ddr library on cube and still barely have to compress.  The whole space arguement is just stupid.

[MysticalMatt517]

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Originally posted by: S-U-P-E-R

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Actually, you know what would be cool? DDR on a GBA.

Did you know that DDR already came out for GBC? Three times? There was a wacky little finger pad accessory, too.

You've got to be freaken kidding me. Finger pad accessory? Wow... words escape me.

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Lets think about this. Let's say konami had 120 songs. Each was a 50MB .wav file. Thats 800MB. They could literally put the entire ddr library on cube and still barely have to compress. The whole space arguement is just stupid.

I agree. I said in my post that I dropped the theory after thinking it through. Actually using MP3 or OGG they could get each song way down below 50MB. There is no technical reason for it. In fact, the more I look at it the simpler the game appears. It seems like they're losing more money by not putting it on the GC. You can't tell me that DDR takes the effort that say, Final Fantasy Crystal Cronicales (sp?) took.  

[S-U-P-E-R]

Not so fast there -  keep in mind that Konami would have to release mats and also license some new songs (unless they pull another Konamix, which I'm sure wouldn't fly) for a GC release. It'd probably be more trouble than it's worth, especially since there's already an established pad-owning crew on the PS2.

Unless they have another incentive, that is, like, say, promotion/publishing/SONGS from Nintendo, but I doubt Nintendo would do it, as they'd rather push a certain other music game.

The incentive for XBox Ultramix was just to test out Xbox live and it should probably be dismissed as such - it wasn't as good as the recent PS2 DDRs and they basically just left it to their more inexperienced Hawaii crew.

Howeverrrrrrr, here's what I think Konami could do; use the GameCube to try and establish a new music game in the U.S.: something like Dance Maniax, Para Para Paradise, GuitarFreaks/Drummania, Keyboardmania, or even BeatMania.

[KDR_11k]

120x50=6000, just for the consideration of our math geniuses.

[MysticalMatt517]

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The incentive for XBox Ultramix was just to test out Xbox live and it should probably be dismissed as such - it wasn't as good as the recent PS2 DDRs and they basically just left it to their more inexperienced Hawaii crew.

Ah - I don't know about that. That's your opinion, not fact. I've talked to plenty of others who feel that Ultramix is the best version of the game out to date. I personally love my copy and I have a few friends who bought an XBOX just so they could play it. In their OPINION it isn't so easily dismissed.

Don't pass your opinion off as fact. Link to me an offical reliable source (not a lame 12 year old) that XBOX DDR Ultramix isn't as good as PS2 DDR.  

[mouse_clicker]

MysticMatt: You're talking to Ty Shugart, probably the best DDR player you'll ever come in contact with. I'd trust his opinion if I were you- it may not be universal, but it holds a lot more weight than yours does.

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120x50=6000, just for the consideration of our math geniuses.

Heh, yeah, he did inadvertently slip in a 0. I'm assuming he meant that each song was 5 megabytes, which sounds about right.

[Pale]

I'm a six footer and proud of it...too bad i can't really play anymore cause i think my massive stereo tv stack will fall over...:-/

[mouse_clicker]

I'm up to about 8 feet myself, although lately I've spent more time fixing my metal pad than playing, it seems. I'm also having a bit of trouble with 1/16 notes- they wouldn't be that bad if they followed sensible patterns, like the 1/8 notes, but they hardly ever do.

[Syl]

I love DDR, though i only get to play it on a roughtly weekly basis.  I'm horrendous on metal pads and at the arcade, probably becuase im just so used to playing with those lovely 100$ redoctane igniton 2.0 pads.

i can do most songs up to 9 feet. i have some techniques i need to fix..

anyway, i don't see DDR coming to nintendo this generation, though i would love a nintendomix variation of the game, with the 3rd PS2 game coming out next month, and it already being out for Xbox, i just don't see it as a wise marketing move for konami or consumers, much to my dissapointment.

anyway....

I played DDR a decent amount over the weekend, between the 40 hours of FF:CC we managed to cram in.

my (relatively) once a week playing has been enough to get me slightly better than the state i was in when i first started playing a huge amount, and ive been trying just about anything that says 9 foot for whatever reason.. I'm getting far better and finally learning to twist my body to get into the groove, and my timing on the multiple steps on the same arrow has finally been about right. (still have issues with that, you know, like long quick stretches, abyss, tsugaru (major typo) I still don't do a "crossover" when i see one, thats what im going to work on next.

anyone have an idea of an easy song that has loads of crossovers? i know breakdown does, but its going to fast for me to think about attempting it without being screwed up...

anyway, the only things i really have trouble with now are fast constant body twisting sessions, rythm and police, exotic ethnic, the Max's, and i can't do stuff like end of the century.. actually, i have a hard time with ANYTHING that has 8th steps then random doubles thrown in..

anyway, i mainly play at a friends house and mainly play Max2 (i played original max to death), with an iginition 2.0 pads (wearing socks) and im gonna try to play at the arcade more often, though i do horrendous there...

i mainly need help with the crossovers, but does anyone have any sort of techniques they use that could help me? cause i really want to get better, but i can't practice every day.

considering what im not good at, im surprised what i can do well.

[mouse_clicker]

Syl: By "crossover" do you mean twisting your body around to face away from the screen and hitting an arrow with the foot your normally wouldn't? If so, Twilight Zone on Standard is a nice song to practice that on. I have a lot of trouble with it, too, mainly because I get flustered and lose my bearing if the song's fast.  

[Syl]

by "crossover" i mean a move where the arrows are like this:
<-
   \/
        ->
(i hope that worked..edit: nopte, it didn't, but, you cn see what i mean anyway)
and you have to use for instance, left foot on left arrow, right foot on lower arrow, then crossover and use left foot on right arrow.. its much easier to explain in person.

what ive been doing is left foot on left arrow, right foot on low arrow, then do some quick annoying jump-skip move to get the right foot on the right arrow, whicht akes far too much energy and disrups rythm.

twilight zone Standard? i'll try that.. the song is great on heavy (cept for the ending... those gallops don't work) i'll try it.