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RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
« Reply #850 on: November 03, 2004, 03:34:46 AM »
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Where it started? I think the fact there are 70-odd million PS2s had more to do with it than nostalgia.


Yeah, I would slightly agree... but I'm not the one who said that it has anything to do with nostalgia, I'm the one that has to put up with that from Playstation fanboys, and I put the quotation marks in my post for a reason... so that you could at least know that that comment was not coming from me but rather from the Playstation fanboys like I had stated in my post.  

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RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
« Reply #851 on: November 03, 2004, 04:24:27 AM »
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I knew a PlayStation 2 version was coming for over 6 months, but I wasn't allowed to tell anything about it by the person who told me. Apparantly he was right after all.

The reason why they started anew with RE4 was mostly to be able to create a PS2 version alongside the GameCube version. I fear for the look of the game however... Mikami isn't very fond of PlayStation 2...

If this is true, then I am really f*cking pissed off.

Old version: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Grubdog/resevil4_screen001.jpg

New one: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Grubdog/resident-evil-4-20041102022233325.jpg

Does anyone else notice a slight drop of graphical quality?

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RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
« Reply #852 on: November 03, 2004, 04:33:23 AM »
hard to say, I guess somebody with a better qualified eye should investigate this rather interesting thought
you should maybe write to cube.ign mailbag or something comparable

but if its true that would be the weakest thing I ever heard
yet, I still believe its gonna be a port
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RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
« Reply #853 on: November 03, 2004, 05:33:59 AM »
"Capcom decided that Money was more important than Values/Ethics/Morales/Ones Word/ ect.

They sold out plain and simple!"

What's kinda funny is how people's view changed, capcom didn't.   Nintendo had a deal with Capcom just to get the series exclusive, which pissed off alot of PS owners since the series started on the PS to begin with.  

Now, Capcom's doing the exact same thing---going for the gold.  Nothing new at all.

You should be happy getting the game to begin with and getting most likely the better version.  

Cry all you want but I'll be getting the game in spring none the less.


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RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
« Reply #854 on: November 03, 2004, 05:35:29 AM »
Not comparable, two completely different scenes. There are no common elements that would allow you to point out any changes.

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« Reply #855 on: November 03, 2004, 06:10:39 AM »
"The reason why they started anew with RE4 was mostly to be able to create a PS2 version alongside the GameCube version."

If that's true, I am really, really pissed off.

I don't think it's true though. Mikami interviews were less than 6 months old, weren't they?
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RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
« Reply #856 on: November 03, 2004, 06:28:44 AM »
im pissed off mikmi hs really f***ed the gamecubes chances


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RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
« Reply #857 on: November 03, 2004, 06:43:34 AM »
To use "the series started on x console, so it should return to that console" as an argument is weak. What about all the series' that started on NES/SNES but went to Sony's consoles? Because there are several franchises that should come back "home" in that case.

But in any case, like I've said earlier, RE4 could not have sold a substantial amount of GCs. Other games have failed to drastically increase the sales of GC, so I doubt that this one game could have made that much of a difference. I'm really not that angry about it going to the PS2. I'm more pissed off at Nintendo these days anyway, to care about what Capcom decides to do with one of their games, no matter how big it might have been.

I really hate the way Nintendo threw away the opportunity to bring an epic RPG from Square to the GC, when it let Square develop for the GBA. Instead of getting a great epic RPG, we got the absymal (I admit the game was not that bad, but compated to what we GC gamers were expecting it was downright lousy) Crystal Chronicles. The game sold nearly 900 000 copies worldwide, but thats because GC owners were starved for a new epic RPG. The only RPG (worth mentioning) we had on the GC at that point was Skies of Arcadia (a great game, but a port of a couple of years old DC game).

This is a game you must not only own 3 GBAs to play, but you must also have 3 friends who are interested in playing these kind of games. I do have 2 GBA's, but no friends of mine wanted to play that game for longer then 15 minutes (which I can't blame them for, as the game was not that good to begin with, regardless of whether you played it single or multi player). Nintendo tried to sell GCs by using the GBA, but it had not worked in the past, and it sure as hell was not going to work this time, especially given the bad quality of the game they were trying to sell it with.

If I'm not mistaken, the Q fund was used to finance the development of this game. And in return Square got to give us the FFTA on the GBA. A game that was more or less build on the same principles as FFT, with a different (more childish) story. The story of this game was so weak, it could put any serious RPG gamer off. I hate this game. And now they are giving us remakes of the first 2 Final Fantasys. Just like every other every other 3rd party developer uses the GBA to earn easy money (by making nearly direct ports of their old games), and then pisses all on Nintendo by using that money to fund rival consoles' (mostly PS2) games, SquareEnix is doing it to.

As for Mario Tennis being a "real" tennis game. I would not have bought Mario Tennis, but since there is no other option on the GC, I'm almost forced to. Sure Mario Tennis is decent, but its not an actual Tennis game. Its more of a tennis game with Mario characters in it, which means that it also doens't use actual Tennis rules.

I want a tennis game like the legendary Super Tennis, where I can't pull of super natural moves. I don't want to get power ups in a Tennis game, I want to play a regular tennis game, with no power ups.

Nintendo might make most of the profits, but that won't help the company much in the long run. Nintendo's profits on the home console market is decreasing, and it will continue to do so, unless Nintendo starts to approach the market differently. The N64 sold twice as much as the GC, even if the GC is still selling, I don't think it will ever sell more then 20 million units.

Also Mario 64 sold 5 times as many copies as Mario Sunshine. Ocarina of Time sold more then Wind Waker, and so on. The only platinum seller the GC has in Japan is Smash Bros Melee.

Nintendo needs to make changes, its even started to loose its most loyal fans. I've stuck with Nintendo through thick and thin, I missed on several classic games in the previous generation, and I've missed out on maybe even more classic games in this generation, and there is only to a certain point the gamer in me can let him be dictated by the Nintendo fan in me. There is a limit for everything, and Nintendo sure has reached the limit of patience in its most loyal fans.

How much longer do we Nintendo fans have to suffer for Nintendo's stubberness? I know 15 GC owners, 10 of those GCs were partially or fully financed by me (I either gave those away as presents to friends/family members, or paid half the price for those who were somewhat interested in the console, the GC costs only around $100 here in Norway, and that is by far the cheapest home console ever here in Norway, even a dying DC costed more), and 80% of these people own a PS2 or an Xbox as well.

Thats were the market is going, some are buying the GC as a second console, most are just ignoring it altogether. Nintendo needs to change or else its profit will continue to decrease until there will no longer be any profit for the company, and thats when Nintendo will realise that it should not have ignored those who have kept it alive for all these years. The loyal Nintendo fans who have stood by the company for nearly 20 years.

Btw, I bought RE and RE0, and enjoyed both. I will also buy RE4, regardless of it being on the PS2 or not.  

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RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
« Reply #858 on: November 03, 2004, 02:22:09 PM »
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I knew a PlayStation 2 version was coming for over 6 months, but I wasn't allowed to tell anything about it by the person who told me. Apparantly he was right after all.

The reason why they started anew with RE4 was mostly to be able to create a PS2 version alongside the GameCube version. I fear for the look of the game however... Mikami isn't very fond of PlayStation 2...

If this is true, then I am really f*cking pissed off.

Old version: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Grubdog/resevil4_screen001.jpg

New one: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Grubdog/resident-evil-4-20041102022233325.jpg

Does anyone else notice a slight drop of graphical quality?


That's a bad comparison.  The settings are different (comparing the "old" castle to the "new" castle would be more appropriate); the times of the day are different, causing different magnitudes of lighting and shadowing; the camera angles are too different, with one fairly distant from the character and the other close enough to see wall textures (Resi4 is typically not played by moving closely along walls); one screen shows a fair amount of space while three-quarters of the other screen is covered by a wall/window at close range, blocking the view of the rest of the villagers' and town geometry and architecture.
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RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
« Reply #859 on: November 03, 2004, 03:48:58 PM »
I believe the TGS 2004 Resi4 trailer will be in the next issue of Famitsu Wave DVD, on sale at the end of the month.  I didn't see "biohazard4" listed as a feature for the current issue nor on the extra TGS special DVD.  It was listed for the Jan. 2005 issue... Another fun high-rez trailer to share later.
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RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
« Reply #860 on: November 03, 2004, 10:48:09 PM »
Wasn't it in the Capcom special issue?

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« Reply #861 on: November 03, 2004, 11:09:29 PM »
No, unfortunately.  Only the 3min E3 2004 trailer are part of the special issue.  The TGS trailer is the more recent one featuring extra footage of the Village Chief and the mysterious "Lady in Red."  Since the special issue was planned months in advance of the actual TGS event, where/when the TGS trailer would be debuted for the very first time, it was probably too early for the trailer to be included with the magazine.

Had the TGS trailer been released with the mag, I would've posted it by now, wouldn't you agree?
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RE: Resident Evil 4 Discussion
« Reply #862 on: November 04, 2004, 12:49:02 AM »
Yeah, true, I just saw those two pics next to each other and raised my eyebrow. We'll probably never know the real story behind all this anyway, so no point in me making more assumptions.

I'm still looking forward to the game, but I do miss the "old RE4" with the dark Resident Evil hallways, I hope some of that is in the new version.

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« Reply #863 on: November 04, 2004, 04:27:31 AM »
Just a smartass remark which ought to piss you all of. To all those really pissed at Capcom,
the console business is a tough business, and in a capitalistic world in which we live these things happen.
So unless Capcom did something illegal it doesnt help to be mad at them or to protest, shiat happens.
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« Reply #864 on: November 04, 2004, 07:15:19 AM »
The capitalist system sucks. It removes values such as life, humanity and happiness and replaces them with the desire to make money. Basically capitalism is the devil, the absolute evil that corrupts people and makes them hurt and kill each other.

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« Reply #865 on: November 04, 2004, 11:13:32 AM »
Still better than Socialism, or living in the 3rd world.
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« Reply #867 on: November 05, 2004, 12:55:38 PM »
BioZomboid4 is a 2-disc game.  -- IGNCube7.9sry
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RE:Resident Evil 4 Discussion
« Reply #868 on: November 05, 2004, 03:29:46 PM »
Just some updates on RE4:

- You're able to buy extra slots from the merchant that you meet several times in the game which will make your inventory bigger obviously letting you handle more stuff at once.

- Supposedly, the normal mode is extremely intense and is certainly much harder when compared to the other normal modes in Resident Evil.

- As Pro666 already said, it'll be 2 discs.

- A special DVD will be given out to those who pre-order Biohazard 4 from Japan.  The price is 8190 Yen all up which is the highest price yet for a Resident Evil game.

- Both Resident Evil 4 sites have been updated.

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« Reply #869 on: November 06, 2004, 02:34:19 AM »
This game will really be amazing, I hope that this series is continued on GCN sucessor.
Imagine the possibilities
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« Reply #870 on: November 06, 2004, 04:47:38 AM »
hopefully the outbreak series continues and nitnendo's next console gets online and takes the series.
Outbreak 2 got a 36/40 in famitsu which is pretty darn good.

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« Reply #871 on: November 06, 2004, 06:13:34 PM »
As if this wasn't bullsh!t enough, now I read a Xbox version is being released as well.  And how can Capcom defend that move?  Their games have sold like complete rubbish on the Xbox.  Its on Spong(I know, unreliable) and they seem pretty positive at this point that xbox will have RE4 as well.  I just can't wait for the extra incentives to buy the PS2/XBox version.  Then we'll all be pissed all over again.
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« Reply #872 on: November 06, 2004, 07:08:02 PM »
this just in, after beating the game with leon PS2 and xbox gamers will get to play through the game as every other character from the series including the zombies.  Also playable will be dante and trish.  They're also throwing in co-op missions online and a special downloadable co-op extra for people that also own viewtiful joe.  If you own a gamecube you're just out of luck
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« Reply #873 on: November 06, 2004, 08:16:36 PM »
Well if you're going to sabotage your own game's sales you might as well go all the way.  Realisitically the damage is done already.  An Xbox port would just be an exclamation point.  If there is an Xbox port I won't be too surprised but I will be disappointed.  The Xbox has been a money pit for Capcom.  The fact that they continue to support it is insulting.  But the real insult would be if they actually announced an Xbox port before the Cube version was released.  We've all assumed the reason Capcom announced the PS2 port before the Cube game came out was because Sony paid them to kick Nintendo in the nuts.  However if they were to announce both versions and thus ensure that absolutely no human being alive who currently owns any current videogame console would buy a Cube for RE4 then it would suggest that perhaps Capcom screwed Nintendo on their own.  I mean there's selling out to Sony and then there's just being a total jerk.

However I think the Cube version of RE4 will still sell the best.  Since it comes out first anyone who owns a Cube, even if they own another console, will buy the Cube version.  The Cube's price cut made it a popular second console for PS2 and Xbox owners and odds are they'll get the version that comes out first.  The Cube version will sell best but Capcom will ignore it and cut Cube support anyway because of poor PS2 sales.

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« Reply #874 on: November 07, 2004, 02:46:29 AM »
I actually think it really wont be that bad, the hardcore RE fans will buy the cube anyway, because they cant wait for a year, other people might still see this as an incentive to buy the cube, since it has quite a few other games that are awesome. It might after all not make such a big difference.

Look the GCN only cost 100$ or 80 euros, and you get Mario Kart for free. If I hadnt got a cube yet and the only games that would interest me are RE4 and the new Zelda, I would still buy one.

I just bought the new PS2 just for San Andeas, MGS3 and Pro Evolution 4.
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