Author Topic: I can't believe that Rogue Squadron series could join the Dark Side (Read 14477 times)

honda_insightful · « **Reply #25 on:** October 12, 2003, 05:49:22 AM »

Since when is the Xbox the "dark side"? It's just a piece of plastic and metal. It's neither evil nor good. Stop weighing your own personal worth by which console you own (and villianizing all others).

oohhboy · « **Reply #26 on:** October 12, 2003, 06:20:59 AM »

Your abit late honda, everybody disregarded that statement 23 posts ago. Maybe you should relax alittle bit.

Anyway, back when Rogue Leader came out Factor 5(Julian) did say that it was possible to run RL even on the PS2, it just needed tweaking. But he didn't go on to the amount or what needed tweaking. Also the RL was based off the N64 version code which allowed for the fast development time but had also produced some porblems like crashing and for time to time inconsitant frame rate.

Now we have Rebel Strike. this game has been written from scratch around the GC hardware. Now with any program it can be ported from system to system with differant results. Factors include time and money, talent, limitations of the recieving/original hardware and so on. It can almost be a straight port like PC to Xbox due to the similiar hardware or near total rewrite say from PS2 to everything else out there. But all this talk is pointless as one, it's IGN, two, Factor 5 don't do ports as in they don't port things themselfs it would be a third party of some sort ala Gearbox for Halo. Three porting 3 games in one year is abit bit of a streach considering Rebel strike would have to be largely rewritten or some nasty shortcuts taken. And lastly, it's IGN.

But this generation has been very wishy-washy. It is almost impossible to foresee anything.

CaseyRyback · « **Reply #27 on:** October 12, 2003, 07:20:05 AM »

I don't know, I picked it up from the Xbox.com message boards(i own a Gamecube and an Xbox)

KDR_11k · « **Reply #28 on:** October 12, 2003, 08:13:51 AM »

>> Factor 5 don't do ports

If I understood it right they were responsible for porting Katakis and R-Type to the C64 back then.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #29 on:** October 12, 2003, 08:17:42 AM »

Just like that rumor(posted on big game sites, no less!) that Star Fox Adventures was being ported to the Xbox...I couldn't decide whether to laugh or find the ip of the sites, drive over, and slap them across their faces...

nolimit19 · « **Reply #30 on:** October 12, 2003, 09:14:56 AM »

xbox ign will say anything to anyone to get a couple hits. its bogus crap.

Zero · « **Reply #31 on:** October 12, 2003, 10:12:54 AM »

Rogue Squadron already got ported to PC, so it would be no problem porting it to X-Box. And since someone earlier stated that Rouge Leader was based off the Rogue Squadron engine, then it shouldn't be too hard to port Rouge Leader either. I think the only possible porting problems would come from Rebel Strike.

Cap · « **Reply #32 on:** October 12, 2003, 10:14:46 AM »

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Originally posted by: Bill
Just like that rumor(posted on big game sites, no less!) that Star Fox Adventures was being ported to the Xbox...I couldn't decide whether to laugh or find the ip of the sites, drive over, and slap them across their faces...

thats a completely different story though. star fox is owned and published by nintendo. there is nothing keeping rouge leader on the gc like there was star fox. some sites should have known better about the star fox story, but rouge leader isnt out of the question.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #33 on:** October 12, 2003, 10:21:29 AM »

I'm not saying it's not possible, but it sure does knock down the trustworthiness of the rumor when these are the same places that said SFA was coming to the XBox...

Cap · « **Reply #34 on:** October 12, 2003, 10:32:42 AM »

well i dont really read ign xbox much, so i'm not too sure of their reliabilty. i generally trust ign cube though. i remembered reading the ign cube article a while back where it made some mention of this rumour. going back and looking at the article again, it seems ign cube and ign xbox have different sources.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/432/432558p2.html

Drago · « **Reply #35 on:** October 12, 2003, 11:28:02 AM »

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I find it interesting that many game sites were refusing to confirm (or even entertain the rumor) that splinter sell was going to be ported

Such sites are complete idiots. Splinter Cell was announced for GameCube and PS2 from the beginning. There was a short announcement that said that it was being delayed 6 months and there was a media blackout, but it was never cancelled, and nobody ever said that it wasn't coming out for GCN and PS2.

Your right, I think it was during the media blackout in IGN's N-Query someone had asked about Splinter Cell and they would not say if it was or was not coming to GC. And now IGN is reporting the Rebel Strike rumor. It looked hypocritical to me. Like you said complete idiots but I once thought IGN was above that.

Yuji Miyamoto · « **Reply #36 on:** October 12, 2003, 12:05:34 PM »

I believe this rumor to be false. First IGN hates Nintendo. Second there's this quote from an old issue of EGM.

An odd thing to note on Rebel X--back from the EGM issue that featured our first look at Rebel Strike, Factor 5 stated "The company has strong ties with Nintendo and even helped design the hardware, and the game itself was designed specifically for the Cube's capabilities (which is why it looks so stellar). Recoding it for, say, Xbox would be "10 times harder for us than to just start another game from scratch," Eggebrecht says."

You'd think the people who run this site would know this stuff and would discredit this BS rumor, but whatever...

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #37 on:** October 12, 2003, 12:17:21 PM »

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Originally posted by: Drago

Your right, I think it was during the media blackout in IGN's N-Query someone had asked about Splinter Cell and they would not say if it was or was not coming to GC. And now IGN is reporting the Rebel Strike rumor. It looked hypocritical to me. Like you said complete idiots but I once thought IGN was above that.

As did I. I stopped reading IGN a long time ago. Reason being that the editors on all sections of the site started bashing Nintendo. If I want to read some biased garbage about how much Nintendo sucks, I would read Official Xbox Magazine. As it is, I go to news sites to get the factual news, and not some contrived BS with an anti-Nintendo spin on it. That's why I came to PGC. They do their very best to give us the straight news, and they don't shove a bunch of anti-Nintendo propaganda down our throats.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #38 on:** October 12, 2003, 12:24:33 PM »

They don't shove any anti-xbox or anti-PS2 garbage down our throats either (though other forum members might

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This rumor is wrong and that's that's the end of that chapter.

Cap · « **Reply #39 on:** October 12, 2003, 12:35:53 PM »

its kind of funny becouse i always hear about how much ign hates nintendo, but as i said i generally trust ign cube. although, i dont bother to look at the other sections of the site so maybe they are to blame. reading that article from ign xbox makes me partially believe what i've heard. for the most part, i find ign cube is just honest about the gamecube and its situation. i usually agree with pretty much all of their reviews too. as for splinter cell, i thought they had said it was still coming, but they couldnt say anything else due to the media blackout that ubisoft had imposed.

isnt there always the possiblity that lucasarts could force factor 5 to port these games though(or simply get another developer to port the games)? i doubt the decision is factor 5's to make.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #40 on:** October 12, 2003, 01:28:50 PM »

Cap, I have found IGN to be a completely unreliable source of information, and I hate the IGNCube editors. When they aren't inactive, they are out promoting Xbox or PS2. I don't like that kind of crap on a Nintendo site.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #41 on:** October 12, 2003, 04:18:17 PM »

The GameCube Masta also hasn't returned either.

DOOM ON THEM!

SuperLink666 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 12, 2003, 05:35:38 PM »

I dont think IGN really hates GC but they do seem bias towards it.

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #43 on:** October 12, 2003, 06:29:01 PM »

Which is funny because that site start out as a N64 site.

Mannypon · « **Reply #44 on:** October 13, 2003, 12:43:18 AM »

Joining the darkside? After reading game informers review on the game, it seems we have more to fear than them jumping ship to xbox. I know its just one magazines opinion but this isnt a good start for the newest addition to the rs trilogy.

egman · « **Reply #45 on:** October 13, 2003, 12:33:35 PM »

There is no truth to this rumour. Besides Factor 5 essentially stating that Rebel Strike at least would be far more trouble than it is worth for a port, Julian actually posted a response at the IGN boards saying that there is no truth to it. He also said if a port was being planned anyway, the PS2 would get first consideration.

What IGNxbox fails to mention in their little rumour is the overall weak performance of Star Wars games outside of KOTOR. People are kidding themselves or being misguided by all the hype if they think Factor 5 and Lucasarts will see higher sales on an X-box port.

With that in mind though, Julian also stated that F5 and LA are watching holiday sales closely. Factor 5 have made it clear that they like to work on one platform, and while Nintendo has treated them well for the last several years, that could easily change if Rebel Strike bombs. I'm less concerned about an Xbox port and more worried that Factor 5 would no longer think of a Nintendo console as a viable platform. Nintendo and Factor 5 seem to be a good fit IMO, with both companies benefiting from the close relationship they had when Nintendo was putting together the GameCube.

SuperLink666 · « **Reply #46 on:** October 13, 2003, 12:41:28 PM »

As long as they make a good pilot wings game. They have about 1 1/2 years to get it out for GC or even a few months after if the next system is backwards compatible..

egman · « **Reply #47 on:** October 13, 2003, 12:53:29 PM »

I don't know about PilotWings being GC bound. I would love to have it sooner rather than later, but the IGN rumour that suspected that it's headed to the next Nintendo machine is one of the few I would put some stock in. There's a lot of stuff coming next year that could possibly overshadow it. Also, PilotWings has had a tradition of being a launch title and tech demo, and it seems to me that after the amazing job Factor 5 did with Rogue Leader as a launch game, having them develop PilotWings in that launch title/tech demo tradition seems like a brilliant move in many ways.

CaseyRyback · « **Reply #48 on:** October 13, 2003, 01:11:02 PM »

was the GI rating really that low?

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #49 on:** October 13, 2003, 01:15:33 PM »

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I don't know about PilotWings being GC bound. I would love to have it sooner rather than later, but the IGN rumour that suspected that it's headed to the next Nintendo machine is one of the few I would put some stock in. There's a lot of stuff coming next year that could possibly overshadow it. Also, PilotWings has had a tradition of being a launch title and tech demo, and it seems to me that after the amazing job Factor 5 did with Rogue Leader as a launch game, having them develop PilotWings in that launch title/tech demo tradition seems like a brilliant move in many ways.

I usually bitch at people who want games moved to N5 rather than being released on GameCube. But you are surprisingly convincing with this argument.

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