Author Topic: Nintendo to go the way of Sega + Nintendo is for kids (Read 21064 times)

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #25 on:** September 12, 2003, 09:21:38 PM »

I wish I got paid to write up an article, load it with mindless crap based on my biased opinions and make up 'facts'.
*Sighs ever so slightly*

MeddmaWamm · « **Reply #26 on:** September 12, 2003, 10:24:48 PM »

Sony obviously loves piracy, being a game developer and publisher and all ...
And speaking of dreamcast.. it's easier to pirate dreamcast games than ps2 games! so you really shouldn't be mad at sony for getting rid of dreamcast! you should be congratulating them! because sega allowed evil piracy!!!

Kyosho · « **Reply #27 on:** September 12, 2003, 11:56:34 PM »

I dunno Gamebasher, your views seem rather farfetched and highly unlikely. I doubt many if not even few developers have perished due to piracy. Piracy is not a big big thing. They are still raking in money, just not the most they can get. I think some people just make it out to be a big deal when it really isn't the magnitude that some of you make it out to be.

As for the article, keep in mind... few good mature games are not going to make up for the bulk of nintendo's library for a younger audience. Personally I dont care, i have the Gamecube for those 1st party games. If i wanted mature games, i'd just play the PC.

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the average Nintendo buyer is about 10 years younger than the owner of a PlayStation 2.

I can see this being partially true as like I said I used to work in a software store. Sales for the Gamecube were mostly 10-16 year olds whereas PS2 range was mostly 12-30+

lastly, concerning Nintendo's fazing out... I doubt it. They still make profit.. and even if the audience is less than that of PS2 or Xbox, profit is profit.

PIAC · « **Reply #28 on:** September 13, 2003, 12:14:15 AM »

not if kids pay with monopoly money like i do! but i spose kids today wouldn't play the monopoly board game and play it on some form of computing device... take THAT my illogical point!

Ocarina Blue · « **Reply #29 on:** September 13, 2003, 12:58:24 AM »

If the PS2 is swamped with piracy, then why do some publishers still feel it's more profitable to put games on the PS2, and not the Gamecube?

PIAC · « **Reply #30 on:** September 13, 2003, 01:42:37 AM »

i know the dreamcast and PSX were, and once DVD burners become more common so will be ps2 and xbawx, not enough to damage them though.

oohhboy · « **Reply #31 on:** September 13, 2003, 02:34:10 AM »

The question I ask myself all the time is why people do play monoploy on a computer. It just ruins th fun. Can make up your own rules. Can't throw the dice(In more ways than one). Can't fondle fake money. Can't neogoiate with other players.

Mario · « **Reply #32 on:** September 13, 2003, 04:14:00 AM »

In that article, they claim that by years end the installed user base of each console in the US will look like this

PS2: 24.3 million
GC: 5.7 million
XB: 9.3 million

hmmmmmm, i find that very strange, considering as of now XBOX's userbase is at approx 5,682,075 and GCN is at 4,429,746. Xbox will have to sell an average of 723,585 consoles a month (AUG, SEP, OCT, NOV, DEC) to get to 9.3 million, which is NOT HAPPENING. Also, if they think GC will only have a userbase of 5.7 million by the end of the year, then BUPBOW, my bs-o-meter is tingling. GC would have to sell an average of only 254,051 units each month to only sell that much, and i dont see that happening, especially with the holiday season EXISTING.

And they list PS2's signature title as "Grand Theft Auto", fair enough. XBOX's is "Halo", fair enough. But for Gamecube, it says the signature title is "Pokemon"?! WTF?! There isnt even a Pokemon game out yet in the US, that just proves how little research this stupid person or people have done on the Gamecube. I think they just put Pokemon there to reaffirm Nintendos position as a kiddy company, and back up thier 'fact' that only kids buy Gamecube's, despite it not actually having a Pokemon game.

Another thing, what the hell is up with that picture at the top right? With Angelina Jolie as Tomb Raider? Is it trying to suggest that "Nintendo will no longer be getting Tomb Raider movies?". Retarded.

Argh, i could go on longer if you wanted me too, but you get the point. This article is full of crap, i wonder who's doing this was, Sony's or Microsofts? -__-

Super Mekman · « **Reply #33 on:** September 13, 2003, 05:14:38 AM »

Eww! The New York Post?

I find that most people read that filthy rag is simply because it has "color!"

It's catered more toward folk from the Hamptons and Long Island, where most of the Republican fascist trash in New York City tends to live.

I'd never take their words to heart. Let alone about the Gamecube.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #34 on:** September 13, 2003, 07:26:49 AM »

MS is occupied with faking Windows-Linux TCO studies, so I guess Sony, if any, is at work here. Yellow Press often just reprints public oppinion to "correct" individual thinkers. Anyone giving a s### about this article is somebody I don't give a s### about.

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #35 on:** September 13, 2003, 09:30:37 AM »

lol... I stopped reading when I read that "The Popular Tomb Raider" games weren't coming to GameCube. If that's a bad thing, I don't know what a good thing is.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #36 on:** September 13, 2003, 10:35:00 AM »

It's amazing how someone who doesn't play videogames can make such an informative article </sarcasm>

iTZKooPA · « **Reply #37 on:** September 13, 2003, 12:49:18 PM »

well they cant get an expert at every field, thats why they are SUPPOSED to do research an such

nolimit19 · « **Reply #38 on:** September 13, 2003, 10:11:45 PM »

its actually not that bad of an article....well its horrible, but it doesnt really say anything new. its dumb. something this dumb should just be ignored. who cares. lets face the facts. nintendo really needs to step it up next round to stay on top of things.....BUT, one word of encouragement......i am taking an economics class and the professor said something profound this past week that made me feel good about nintendo situations. he was tlaking about how lots of companies have too many sales and eventually just lose all their money. direct quote, "you dont go into business to maximize sales, but to maximize profits." although nintendo doesnt have the best sales, and they surely need to step it up, they obviously arent as in bad of shape as some make it out to be. they certainly arent in the best of shape either, otherwise we wouldnt be hearing all this crap about them. they just need to stay ontop of things, and if that means putting out a toast making, lawn mowing, mp3 playing, rocket launching, gamecube2, then i think they should do it. they should at least match what sony and m$ are putting in theirs. there are lots of rumors that nintendo and apple are up to no good, in order to pull of such a feat. www.macgamecube.com dont count hte big "n" out yet.

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #39 on:** September 14, 2003, 01:27:50 AM »

Nintendo just needs to say that Gamecube 2 is something NASA would use to launch their rockets and space satellites, and everyone will come running to get some.
Or get Gee Dubya Boosh to make a law that:
'Anyone who doesn't buy a Gamecube 2 will be sent to the army for life'

Following the launch of Gamecube 2, enlistments increase by 1000000%, and no one knows why. After that, the US invade every single country on earth, with Miyamoto crowned King of Tasmania.

nolimit19 · « **Reply #40 on:** September 14, 2003, 06:06:57 AM »

at first i though he was crazy, but the more i think about it, the more it makes sense.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #41 on:** September 14, 2003, 06:13:54 AM »

The article, or Termin8?

Termin8 makes much, MUCH more sense than that article.....

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #42 on:** September 14, 2003, 06:50:08 AM »

nolimit: There IS a differenc between adressing some problems Nintendo has in it's business and outright saying they'll fail.

AgentSeven · « **Reply #43 on:** September 14, 2003, 11:22:10 PM »

Have you ever noticed how there are no articles concerning the FACT that the X-BOX has lost over 1.5 BILLION Dollars since launch? And that many of the people in M$ hate the damn thing.

Or how about the fact that the online plans for both X-box and Ps2 have failed, and that some retailers refuse to re-order online kits for both systems? In fact both $ony and M$ have an online user base no bigger than the Dreamcast did during it's peak, over two years ago.

Why don't you hear these stories? Well, $ony owns tons of syndicated t.v. shows and movies. They have their own movie studio as well. They then sell their shows and movies to your local t.v. station. So being one of the biggest providers of "entertainment content," they have close ties with literally thousands of TV stations and news deptartments across the country. Not to mention the fact that Newscorp (FOX,NY Post) and $ony have always been "buddy, buddy."

As for Microsoft, well to say that they have considerable pull with the media would be an understatement.

Now before you call me a paranoid fanboy. (Well informed fanboy is more like it.) Let me say for the 1000th time that I own a ps2 (regretably) and that I have an X-box that I love. I'm just speaking the truth.

I just had to rant for a moment. Thanks for listening.

PIAC · « **Reply #44 on:** September 14, 2003, 11:26:35 PM »

well despite what ever our feelings are on you, that post is true, it annoys me that all the 'media' dishes on nintendo but ignores microsoft and sorney's shortcommings, in theory it should report all the negative AND positive things, provided they are newsworthy... but hey, thats not going to happen any time soon

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #45 on:** September 15, 2003, 03:28:54 AM »

Actually, there have been articles about how MS has lost a $#!+load of money on the XBox. In fact, one article, that was actually on MSNBC, I believe, said if Microsoft doesn't start maknig money on it soon, the investors might just pull their support out from under it.

Off topic, but doesn't Steve Kent work for MSNBC as well?

Shift Key · « **Reply #46 on:** September 15, 2003, 03:42:12 AM »

Don't believe everything you read, people.

AgentSeven: The article actually mentions MS losing $3 billion to get into a $27 billion industry. Three paragraphs down. For saying a lot of stuff, you need some facts to back it up.
As for on-line, I've heard XboxLive has been successful in the USA, and that's about it.

I particularly like the part where the signature title for the Gamecube is "Pokemon" when there actually hasn't been a Pokemon title released, apart from possibly Japan. That there signals the lack of research, or presence of ignorance.
Either way, they are showing an opinion, which is their job. No matter how mis-informed it is.

To the whingers here, take this article with a grain of salt. The fact that they say "the jury's out" about Nintendo's next console, when Nintendo have said otherwise, means the article does not tell the full story.

Nintendo aren't leaving the console business. Being the only company able to make a profit out of consoles (even up to the GC) means they know how to make a viable business. Now its only a matter of getting back that market share, which they seem to be actually acting on by getting the N5 ready BEFORE the competition.

It shall be interesting.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #47 on:** September 15, 2003, 04:18:54 AM »

75% of all Xbox owners don't have XB Live. That includes me...There is no way I'm paying to play online...

KDR_11k · « **Reply #48 on:** September 15, 2003, 08:46:01 AM »

25% is actually a quite high rate and I doubt it's really that high. However, MS seems to assume everybody has unmetered broadband. I bet they also think everybody has XB Live. (How come the abbreviation XB looks like some weird smiley? Same goes for XP)

NintendoFanGirl · « **Reply #49 on:** September 15, 2003, 01:53:52 PM »

Has anyone considered writing to the lady, Shelley Olhava, that they got all their info from? Feel free to correct her:
solhava@idc.com

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Author Topic: Nintendo to go the way of Sega + Nintendo is for kids (Read 21064 times)