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Re: NBA Thread: Season Suspended Due To Pandemic And Gobert Dumbassery
« Reply #2325 on: July 24, 2020, 11:47:49 AM »
I'm glad that even though the game is back (I haven't watched anything but highlights so far) that they continue to use the post game pre game and mid game, Jersey and anything else they can to keep the awareness in the forefront of the media narrative.

I was a little skeptical that the push would fade as the focus changed, but given how the events of the world.... Excuse me, the dire events of the US are playing out right now, I think it'll be easy for everyone to be reminded of the yeah at hand and what ultimately needs to happen going forward.

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Re: NBA Thread: Season Suspended Due To Pandemic And Gobert Dumbassery
« Reply #2326 on: July 30, 2020, 10:06:53 PM »
Great win tonight. The Lakers shouldn’t be giving up 13 point leads. Nice to see Dion Waiters get a lot of run. The next seven games are going to be critical for getting him more comfortable. I would have liked to see Markieff Morris get more run. Frank Vogel is probably trying to ease him back into the rotation. I’d rather have Morris on Leonard or George than KCP.

Disappointed the Pelicans lost. I’d rather they make the playoffs because Lakers vs. Pelicans would be a better series than Lakers vs. Grizzlies. Rudy Gobert with the game winning free throws. Brandon Ingram is pretty clutch, but that was not a great final shot. It was contested, and J. J. Reddick was like right there. I feel like the Pelicans are being too careful with Zion Williamson. He played 15 minutes. Y’all had eight games to make it into the playoffs. If you’re not going to play him after four months of additional rest and recovery while he got in significantly better shape, why are you even in the bubble right now?

Nice to see everyone kneeling during the National Anthem. These are the kinds of statements I was hoping to see when the league announced the season was resuming.

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Re: NBA Thread: Season Suspended Due To Pandemic And Gobert Dumbassery
« Reply #2327 on: July 30, 2020, 10:10:04 PM »
Disappointed the Pelicans lost.

Same.
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Re: NBA Thread: The Happiest Postseason Bubble On Earth
« Reply #2328 on: July 31, 2020, 05:53:35 AM »
Mostly agree with everything Adrock said.

Lakers feel like a stronger, better team overall than Clippers right now... but games don't get much closer than we saw last night. Assuming the presumed collision course stays on-track, it will be very interesting to see their battles over the next couple of weeks.

The strict minute limit for Zion seems ridiculous. I get that he's considered the future... but they couldn't spare 3-5 extra minutes of play for him after months of layoff? Fans, players, and most importantly Zion himself all got robbed by not having him in the game for the closing minutes.  (But hey, I'm no doctor. Maybe there are really legitimate reasons that I don't know about.)
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Re: NBA Thread: The Happiest Postseason Bubble On Earth
« Reply #2329 on: July 31, 2020, 11:32:19 AM »
From my understanding Markief and Zion has just finished quarenteening and had just arrived into the bubble days prior so that is why they didn't get much run.

As to the games both were good and I enjoyed them.  Both games had the Lakers in some form either former or current. Jazz with Clarkson and the Pels with Lonzo, Hart and Ingram so I was happy either way.  As  a Suns fan though it was nice seeing the Pelicans lose just so we can see if we can make a push for the 8th seed. Yes it is very unlikely we make a run and a lot of things must go right but there is a chance.
 

The Clippers vs Lakers game was really good minus that start of the 3rd quarter.  I really liked Kuzma and his play in guarding Kawhi. He has had success this year guarding Westbrook, Tatum and now Kawhi.  I also liked his form with his 3 point shot. The scrimage games carried over to the 1st of the 8 games. It is good to see. 

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Re: NBA Thread: The Happiest Postseason Bubble On Earth
« Reply #2330 on: August 01, 2020, 08:05:08 PM »
The Raptors sweep the season series because the Lakers just didn't feel like playing basketball tonight.

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Re: NBA Thread: The Happiest Postseason Bubble On Earth
« Reply #2331 on: August 02, 2020, 05:12:48 AM »
The Raptors sweep the season series because the Lakers just didn't feel like playing basketball tonight.

Hahaha... I'm seeing a lot of this sentiment online, but it's crap. Lakers lost because they were outplayed.

Both teams are excellent defensively, both teams are a bit rusty. Games aren't all going to be beautiful - but shutting down superstar opponents and winning ugly games is exactly in the Raptors wheelhouse. They were the third best team in the NBA this season (right behind LAL in the standings) for a reason, and that script is something that played out many times over the season.

But hold onto those sour grapes if they make you feel better. Raptors being a legit (if unlikely) contender clearly isn't a narrative some people are interested in.
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Re: NBA Thread: The Happiest Postseason Bubble On Earth
« Reply #2332 on: August 02, 2020, 10:36:08 AM »
Hahaha... I'm seeing a lot of this sentiment online, but it's crap. Lakers lost because they were outplayed.
LOL, what part is crap? Of course the Lakers got outplayed. They lost. Any team gets outplayed when the opposing team beats them. 🤷‍♀️

However, a team doesn’t lose by 15 points in a pretty even matchup if they play like they want to be there. Anthony Davis, for example, had seven field goal attempts. He didn’t assert himself like he did against the Clippers. The Lakers in general did not look invested which they’ve done numerous times this season often after winning big games. Except this was a big game too against a top team in the league. The Lakers could have clinched first in the West with a win then played James and Davis limited minutes (or not at all) for the next six games. They think they can just coast through a game and turn it on at the end. That isn’t going to work against quality competition unless the other team comes out flat as well.

Note that I did not say the Lakers absolutely would have won if they felt like playing basketball. At the very least, we would have gotten a better game. Lakers vs. Clippers on Thursday was sloppy but good. Lakers vs. Raptors was sloppy but bad.
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But hold onto those sour grapes if they make you feel better. Raptors being a legit (if unlikely) contender clearly isn't a narrative some people are interested in.
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You’re talking trash about spectator sports neither of us have any direct involvement in. Grow up.
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Re: NBA Thread: The Happiest Postseason Bubble On Earth
« Reply #2333 on: August 03, 2020, 08:47:50 AM »
Nope.

I'm pretty sure that after your team loses and you attribute that to a bunch of well-rested pros who simply "didn't feel like playing basketball" instead of giving credit to the other team for playing tough defense and giving more effort, that's a weak cop out and disrespectful to players on both teams.

AD didn't play well? Gasol (and overall team defense) might be due some credit.
Lakers couldn't stop the Raptors in crunch time? Lowry might deserve some credit for leading the offensive charge, knowing that the Lakers have lost a couple of key defenders at the point.

Not sure about where you grew up, but we were taught that humility includes giving some credit after a loss, instead of lame one-liners that discredit the opponent.


But maybe you are right. The loss is just because the Lakers didn't feel like playing, and I need to grow up.
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Re: NBA Thread: The Happiest Postseason Bubble On Earth
« Reply #2334 on: August 03, 2020, 11:32:39 AM »
I'm pretty sure that after your team loses and you attribute that to a bunch of well-rested pros who simply "didn't feel like playing basketball" instead of giving credit to the other team for playing tough defense and giving more effort, that's a weak cop out and disrespectful to players on both teams.
Come on, man. Seriously? My initial post about this game was a half-joke (more on that later). I tried to clarify with my next post and you're still coming at me. Alright, let's try this again:

1. The Lakers lost because the Raptors outplayed them.
2. The Lakers lost by 15 points because they came out flat and thought they could coast through a game.
3. Criticizing the Lakers is not the same thing as discrediting the Raptors.

A team can get outplayed without also getting blown out. I'm not taking anything away from the Raptors. I've acknowledged twice now that they played a better game than the Lakers so I don't know what else you want me to say. In fact, I actually really like the Raptors' chances this year:
As long as the Raptors are healthy, I have more faith in them in the playoffs than the Bucks. The Raptors are playoff tested, Leonard or no Leonard.
So don't come at me like I haven't given credit where credit is due.

I was merely commenting on how poorly the Lakers played. For example, Danny Green missed six wide open three pointers. That's bad defense. However, in my humble opinion, that's worse offense. If you can't hit open shots, you're playing a **** game from that end of the floor. Full stop.

I don't think the Raptors did anything particularly special guarding Anthony Davis. There were a few minutes late in the third quarter when Davis was actively attacking the basket. He was drawing fouls at will. The Lakers didn't really go back to that, and there was no real reason for it either considering he was 9/9 from the free throw line, and Gasol and Ibaka both had five fouls.

Honestly, I think you're way too hung up on the "Lakers just didn't feel like playing basketball tonight" line. I've made this and similar comments numerous times in this thread as a shorthand joke for a team (not just the Lakers) playing poorly. You never complained about them before so it feels like you're being a homer because the other team was the Raptors.
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Not sure about where you grew up, but we were taught that humility includes giving some credit after a loss, instead of lame one-liners that discredit the opponent.
Passive aggressive personal insults are completely uncalled for.
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But maybe you are right. The loss is just because the Lakers didn't feel like playing, and I need to grow up.
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Dude, you need to stop misrepresenting other people's words. Sure, my initial post about the game was unclear. Then, I elaborated yet you're still running with "The loss is just because the Lakers didn't feel like playing."

And yeah, you do need to grow up considering how weirdly defensive you get about the Raptors (numerous instances in this thread) and are now at the point where you're hurling insults at me on an online message board.

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Re: NBA Thread: The Happiest Postseason Bubble On Earth
« Reply #2335 on: August 03, 2020, 01:51:10 PM »
Sure dude, whatever.
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Re: NBA Thread: The Happiest Postseason Bubble On Earth
« Reply #2336 on: August 03, 2020, 04:36:08 PM »
Sure dude, whatever.
Yeah, okay. Thanks for proving my point about needing to grow up.

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Re: NBA Thread: The Happiest Postseason Bubble On Earth
« Reply #2337 on: August 03, 2020, 06:45:05 PM »
The Jazz are killing me. I missed the first three minutes, but since then, they have passed up three layups for kick out three pointers. Where’s broodwars when you need him?

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The Lakers clinch the first seed in the West. They’re lucky Jordan Clarkson couldn’t hit fish in a barrel if the barrel was also made of fish. This f-ing team loooooooves giving up wide open three pointers.

I’m glad the Pelicans played Zion Williamson and picked up a win. It helps to beat the Grizzlies, but I think it’s too little, too late. If the Spurs pulled off that comeback, it would made things a lot more interesting.

The Sixers are similarly killing me. They almost lost that game after giving up a double digit lead in the fourth quarter. It’s like they thought DeMar DeRozan’s points don’t count. That Shake Milton game winner was nice though.
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