Well, I guess we all have to start somewhere.
True! So let me start by clearing up a misconception!
TJ Spyke wasn't the most beloved member of these forums and yet, at one point, other forum members were on his side and defending him against you because they viewed posts you made in the funhouse and directed at him to be past a certain moral line and into bullying. It was too much piling on.
I'll say it again, TJSpyke made a claim and I gave him ample opportunity to back up his claim. As much as you try to be the forum lawyer, you'd think you'd *want* him to bring some kind of evidence to the table to support his post. I suppose I should have just posted a bunch of meme gifs and made fun of him instead of giving him a chance to back up his own claims.
With Oblivion
You keep trying to pull the rest of the forum in here. I've discussed Oblivion at length with Oblivion and see no reason to get into that discussion again - but I'd like to point out, Oblivion was banned because he requested to be banned. When he came back under a different account, no action was taken against the new account in spite of the fact that we all knew it was him and I even posted, publicly, to that extent. He's been a great poster (now and, for the most part, before) and sincerely seems to want to put the past in the past. It seems rather uncouth for you to dig it up and try to drag him into more forum drama.
I'm not trying to drag Spyke or ObbyDent into this or recreate past situations. I was merely attempting to show a parallel of past occasions involving you and other forum members that I felt mirrored the situation a bit with Lucariofan99 currently and what I see as a destructive cycle of having an issue with a forum user that keeps escalating when maybe it shouldn't and wouldn't if you removed yourself from correcting them and let others handle them. I'm glad the tension that grew between you and ObbyDent went away. I'd like to see the same thing happen with you and Lucariofan99 as well. I'm just noting what looks like a pattern of behavior with you from my eyes which you may not realize or see. Since you didn't seem to understand my point in using those examples, you still may not understand what I'm trying to say there but I don't want to go over those examples more as they are just a sidepoint to everything.
Although....
I should have just posted a bunch of meme gifs and made fun of him
...sounds great to me! Will you really?!?
I don't think it's fair that you keep referencing "forum users" as if you're one voice. Several forum members actually replied that they agreed Lucariofan had taken things too far.
Hey now. Just because most forum users usually agree with me doesn't make me think I speak for them all. I'm not Ian Sane and posting in absolutes as if my opinion is the one everybody else shares and believes. However...
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obviously thought the action was too muchStratos had no problem with Lucariofan's actions:
Aww, I thought it was a funny change of pace. It would have gotten annoying if it kept going past the current mafia game. I'm guessing he role played too far with someone not in the know.
Soren had no problem with Lucariofan's actions:
Lucario's posts on that Wii U thread were pretty much the only good things there the last few days.
In a surprise twist I love, Broodwars had no problems with Lucariofan's actions:
I honestly don't understand why he got banned. If it was for his Borderlands 2 Torgue stuff, he was in character. I knew that, and it didn't bother me.
Fatty the Hutt had no problems with Lucariofan's actions:
30 days ban? That's just idiotic.
This pathetic excuse for a forum community has enough problems without completely alienating one of it's few enthusiasts. Plus, the kid's like 16 years old or something, isn't he?
5 days maximum gets the point across splendidly
consider me your court of appeal here. I have experience in that area...
Although Silenced never gives a confirmation post of being ok with Lucariofan's actions which I could use here also like other users, he did post in favor of Lucariofan99 having a shorter sentence and showed no ill will to how Lucariofan99 had been posting.
The only forum users who seem to be on your side are Adrock and, I guess, Shaymin (who has always disliked Lucariofan99) although Mop it up would also post a little something in your favor which I'll soon get too. What's even funnier is that when Lucariofan99 came back briefly as the Aura Ghost (which is when you got a bit more support for banning Lucariofan99 further and might be the support you're thinking of), even then forum users weren't fully on your side.
Lolmonade posted this:
I like Lucariofan, but man, just take your licks and move on...
Can I petition the removal of the additonal 10 day ban? The RP stuff was a little much, but I second that his contributions if a bit manic keep the forums fun.
He wanted the extra time taken off and still liked Lucariofan's contributions.
Triforce Hermit took the time to finally post about Lucariofan's contributions that led to his ban:
I would have defended the Mr. Torgue roleplay (because I enjoyed it and he was well within character), but I left it up to the mods.
The dupe account was a stupid idea and you had to have know that it wasn't going to end well.
He had no problems with Lucariofan's behaviour and just added that he knew Lucariofan would cause himself more trouble with the Aura Ghost account but he doesn't post anything about being in favor of the ban.
As for Mop it up,
Although I agree with what Adrock said, I was about to say that maybe 15 or 20 days would be better. However, circumventing a ban is a huge no-no. I've got no defense for that.
she disappoints us all by agreeing with Adrock yet even she doesn't like the ban amount but concedes on defending the ban circumvention. (Which I will also defend)
So when you say:
I don't think it's fair that you keep referencing "forum users" as if you're one voice. Several forum members actually replied that they agreed Lucariofan had taken things too far.
I think you're quite wrong. I have no problem referencing "forum users" as being on my side because, of the forum users that have spoken up or talked about this, there seem to be way more on my side than ones that agree with you. In any case, I stated "many members" didn't like the actions taken. That doesn't mean 100% support and, as shown by the quotes, many members have stated not liking it. When I state "Forum users didn't know which moderator it was, we just didn't like the action taken no matter who had done it", I'm referring to the users who complained at first to Shaymin and then to you about it. The term "forum users" has no specific quantity either. This is splitting hairs over something with very little relevance which does nothing to help your case or hinder mine and seems to ignore the point being made in the whole paragraph.
Couple other points:
[...]they all had an Anti-Khushrenada bias, (Though, let's be serious. You'll never find enough people against me for it)
Maybe we should get Anti-Khushrenada or one of the other twelve alts.
Why didn't I think of that? I could create all the jury members and judge! Brilliant!
Thus, it brings me back to the point about how you seem to be more trigger happy and strict with your moderating lately because of moments like this.
Man, it seems like it was just yesterday that a group of people left because the forums were too lax in their moderation. Now, we're too trigger happy. Because of 2 or 3 things.
(although maybe replace "your" with "their" in that quote to make it fit even better as a reply)
I've heard rumors that there is a special moderator forum where moderators can see deleted posts and threads. If that is the case, I invite you to retrieve that post and copy or paste here and show it for other users because I'd love to see how many people think it is against the "Talkback spirit". Heck, explain your belief of how "wrong" it is. I'd re-post it but I can't exactly remember what I wrote and it actually took a long time to find the image links to get that post just right in my eyes and can't even recall exactly which I ended up using. In this case, I don't want to get the details wrong because my counter-argument is strong enough to defend what exactly it was I posted.
It's not some clandestine forum or something like it seems you're making it out to be - it's just the default forum where a post goes when you hit "delete". No big deal, it's even called the "Recycle Bin".
C'mon, it's me. We should all know I love to hype my descriptions of ordinary things.
So here, not only is your post without any real relation to the OP of the thread, but it's just a couple of meme gifs and a dash of insult towards another poster that posted something you don't like. You could have posted this in the "Off Topic Replies" thread.
Complaining about Amiibo Supply Issues is still a thing?!?
Yes. Time to do the Harlem Shake!
Ha ha ha. Maybe it's just me and my own warped humour but seeing this post and reading it again makes me laugh out loud to myself. Hello old friend. I don't understand this part: "a dash of insult towards another poster that posted something you don't like." There's nothing in this post that is an insult to another poster and when I made it I never directed it at anyone. Anyways, I don't actually have an argument to defend it, I just wanted to see it again.
Just kidding. I do want to talk more about it and Talkback in general but as we keep posting between each other we keep bringing in a lot of extra points so I'm going to create a separate thread/topic about this.