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Offline screamatorium

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OLED: The future?
« on: June 25, 2003, 11:04:39 PM »
Random speculation here.  

http://www.universaldisplay.com/tech.php or just type oled in a search engine.

Kodak and dupont are pushing this new "organic-Light-emissive-display".  Why should you care?  Because, if all their claims are true, it would be the ideal material to use in nintendo's next hand held game system.  It beats lcd on just about every front.  Each pixel is self lit, so no need for a backlight.  Even with the light, it uses less energy.  The cells turn on and off faster so there would be significantly less blurring.  It has a much higher maximum resolution.  Can be seen at any angle.  It seems like a perfect fit.  It also takes less hardware to run, so the next game boy could be even smaller.  The biggest problem?  Target date is estimated to be 2005.  With the psp on the horizon, Nintendo may not want to wait that long before taking the next step with the gba.  


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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2003, 11:15:46 PM »
Nintendo dont need a new portable. The sony psp will cease to exist as long as the gba has games like pokemon, mario, zelda and kirby exclusively. Gameboy advance is enought to destroy the psp. Nintendo do not need a new portable.

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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2003, 11:27:27 PM »
I have a feeling you forgot to take your medication.  Cool avatar btw.  

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RE: OLED: The future?
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2003, 01:27:08 AM »
What? this is a great idea! And it's for Nintendo NEXT handheld, whenever that may be.
Just because the technology is out now doesn't mean they have to grab at it.
Nintendo can stick with the SP for now i agree, but this thing is great for their next handheld.
Remember, power efficiency is the key to NIntendo's success in the handheld market, so this a viable option.

And go to the Product Concepts. They are pretty good. That picture is of a pen, by the way, so you get the idea og how portable this thing can be. That 'roll-up refreshable newspaper' is one kinky idea.
It's also the closest thing I've seen to Minority Report-style technology. You know, that cool computer he uses with the gloves to find the place of the murder? And the ads all over the walls in the public areas.

"- Office windows, walls and partitions that double as computer screens
- Color-changing lighting panels and light walls for home and office"

Pretty cool to me.
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2003, 05:38:00 AM »
Before anything, let me say that I am a huge Nintendo loyalist that tries to be optimistic.  However, we cannot underestimate Sony's PSP and declare that it is no threat to Nintendo's handheld throne.  Nintendo was in the same situation with consoles, too, but Sony toppled that.  Sega almost done the same, though Nintendo managed to defeat Genesis with the SNES after a few years.  If PSP can offer enough bells and whistles to get attention, and simply having the Sony name is enough to get massive support from developers, Nintendo better strongly consider how to compete when PSP arrives.  SP will likely, realistically, not cut it.  Nintendo even hinted at trying to have new hardware in time for it, thanking Sony for giving them such advanced warning to prepare.

As for the new screen, it would be neat to see it used, but 2005, which likely means seeing it utilized no earlier than 2006 in any new handheld, is too late for whatever will compete directly with PSP.
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Offline KDR_11k

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RE: OLED: The future?
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2003, 08:10:21 AM »
It's probably too expensive at release date, expect it in the gen after the next.

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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2003, 02:35:29 PM »
Screw the handheld, I want my TV to use this technology.  
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2003, 08:37:30 PM »
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However, we cannot underestimate Sony's PSP and declare that it is no threat to Nintendo's handheld throne. Nintendo was in the same situation with consoles, too, but Sony toppled that.
But that was in the console market that required that users leave behind all their accumulated games from the prior generation.  Just as Sony has proven with the PS2, having a stranglehold on the userbase, even with arguably inferior technology, can be enough to fend of worthy challengers.

Sure, you can describe me as pro-Nintendo and anti-Sony, but I still use good reason to back up my arguements.  In the console market, $200-$300 is the standard release price of a new system, despite the technology contained within each respective console.  Because each system is relatively equally priced, the price factor does not play too much of a difference in people's console choice (as was proven by PS2's continued sales increases vs the cheaper Cube's lack of any good spikes).  On the other hand, the handheld market is dealt with almost like a secondary, nice-to-have toy.  The cheaper something is, the more likely people are to pick it up on a whim, which is why the $100 GameBoy series is so widespread.  Take into account the prices of all other (domestic) portables (okay, so NGPC came over, ignore it for now), ignoring the steep battery cost of the pre-GBC generation of color handhelds, and you may notice quite a many less owners because of restrictive price.  (blah, blah, blah GameGear, okay, that also ruins my arguement.)  Taking a look at Sony's proposed tech specs, even the merely-slightly knowledgable tech-head will note that some of these technologies aren't even affordable enough for I-pay-$400-every-6-months-for-a-new-video-card PC users, let alone mainstream I-download-free-MP3's America.  Sure, the release date is quite a few years off, but if NURBS has been in existance forever (in fast-moving PC time) and still hasn't manifested itself in consumer-level workstation video cards, I don't see it being used as the main rendering system in a mass-market portable.  Moral of the story:  Sony may have to swallow more expenses than Microsoft is with the Xbox for it to be affordable enough to make a marketable (read: worthwhile to provide software support) system for the masses.

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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2003, 08:54:02 PM »
Well, this is how I feel about it. The PSP (which won't be out for about a year let's remember) is going to cost $200 or so. That's huge because Nintendo can lower the SP to $79 by then or maybe (I doubt it though) even $69. I think the price thing is big enough but throw in the games and it's all but over. Sony's not stupid, though. I'm sure they realize this but who knows what they're doing about it.
As a side note, I personally can't picture myself playing any games on a small screen. Sure, some would be alright but others...
That's why I think the GBP is such a great thing.
OLED sounds really cool and should be in the next Nintendo handheld but there is no way, I repeat, no way that the PSP is a threat to the GBA. The N64 fell because Nintendo was stupid and stayed with carts. There were other reasons but that's the main one. The GBA is further ahead than the PS2 is to the GCN and Xbox so there's no problem there.
Now, if on the next handheld Nintendo makes a similiarly dumb move then we may have something but even if they do use carts then the backwards compatibility and low price may still save the day, so to speak. But who knows where the PSP will be at this time.