Author Topic: Acclaim drops all support for Nintendo! (Read 11421 times)

Mario · « **on:** June 23, 2003, 12:20:13 AM »

http://www.mcvonline.de/?article_id=184480

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Acclaim: No new products for Nintendo platforms

New Acclaim CEO says: "Why should we develop for platforms that don't deliver profits for us. We still support PS2 and Xbox, but Nintendo? No, not in the foreseeable future."
Current products that are in development and are not effected by the changes are: Legends of Wrestling III (Spring 2004), Urban Freestyle Soccer (November 2003) und XGRA (August 22, 2003).

Oh noes! No turok 7, heads down thumbs up xxx, legends of wrestling, mary kate & ashley or iggys reckin balls 2 for cube owners!

*dies from sarcasm overdose*

Grey Ninja · « **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2003, 12:21:42 AM »

Actually, I was kind of looking forward to playing XGRA. But overall I can only say good riddance. I would rather have Konami or Capcom any day. (We still love you Konami! Come back!)

aoi tsuki · « **Reply #2 on:** June 23, 2003, 01:02:47 AM »

Turok, All-Star Baseball, Burnout, and maybe Extreme G are all popular series that help to round out the GC's library. After ASB is gone, will there even be any baseball games on Cube? i was glad to see 3D0 go as their releases had gotten stale, but Acclaim seemed to be picking up in some areas.

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Actually, I was kind of looking forward to playing XGRA.

i believe XGRA is still on track. It better be, or else i may have another reason to pick up a second system.

Tael · « **Reply #3 on:** June 23, 2003, 02:33:40 AM »

Did you guys read the original post before replying? Pay more attention:

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Current products that are in development and are not effected by the changes are: Legends of Wrestling III (Spring 2004), Urban Freestyle Soccer (November 2003) and XGRA (August 22, 2003).

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #4 on:** June 23, 2003, 03:39:50 AM »

All those games are still coming out, so you can still get XGRA- I loved Burnout, and thought it sold moderatley well on the Gamecube. I haven't played any of Acclaim's other GCN games, but I'm not too fond of them overall. I love this quote, though:
"Why should we develop for platforms that don't deliver profits for us."
Yeah, well why should we spend our money on games that suck?

joshnickerson · « **Reply #5 on:** June 23, 2003, 03:46:53 AM »

Boo frickity hoo. I haven't bought any Acclaim games since that incredibly crappy South Park game for the N64. I guess they finally realized that Gamecube owners are too smart to buy their crap.
It doesn't affect me one bit. But I wonder, are they still making games for the Gameboy, hmmm? I wouldn't be surprised one little bit if Nintendo decided that Acclaim's GBA games weren't "good" enough for their handheld...

PIAC · « **Reply #6 on:** June 23, 2003, 03:49:18 AM »

i liked turok 1 and 2, and that was a marginal like, but over all whos not supporting what now?

<positive spin> aclaim realise they cant sell shovelware to gamecube owners, i take that as a credit to our collective inteligence!</positive spin>

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #7 on:** June 23, 2003, 03:49:37 AM »

Crap. This is a major blow to GameCube. Sure, they don't always produce the best titles, but they've provided much needed quantity to the GC line-up.

Looks like the next Turok (I'm sure they'll make another) will be the first that's not on a Nintendo console. We as Nintendo fans basically kept Turok alive during its hey-day on the N64...
What about the next Burnout? The Burnout games are fan-bloody-tastic.

No Dave Mirra's, hell, there goes a BIG chunk of the extreme sports games for N-fans.

Though I fail to see why they still plan on bringing out LOW III and Urban Soccer. I mean, it's pretty well known that sports games sell like four week old bread on GameCube..

I never knew third party sales were THIS bad on GameCube. I mean, it's gotta be beyond terrible for ACCLAIM to pull out.

egman · « **Reply #8 on:** June 23, 2003, 05:01:28 AM »

Every 3rd party that says it's dropping support is bad news in terms of Nintendo's perception, so I wouldn't take this lightly. I wouldn't put Acclaim on the same level as Midway, who has really earned a bad rep. Acclaim was one of the N64's biggest supporters, and lately Acclaim has been publishing some great titles like Burnout.

Third parties are not selling because there is not a significant amount of exclusive titles coming from them. The GC's appeal is exclusives, Nintendo's or otherwise. But with a shift toward multiplatform development that seems to be happening with nearly all western developers, the GC's biggest selling point is diminishing quickly in our market.

Nintendo's has been doing a good job of bringing back some of the Japanese support they lost, but if they want to continue to have some significance in the western market, they will have to extend that same kind of courtesy towards western developers other than Factor 5. While it has been argued that 3rd parties are doing bad because of quality, we also have to look at the other side of this coin. Why would it be worthwhile for a 3rd party to give us high quality ports and exclusives when the GC audience seems so fickle? Nintendo is going to have to make it worthwhile for western 3rd parties in the same that they are making it worthwhile for companies like Square and Namco.

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #9 on:** June 23, 2003, 05:19:01 AM »

egman, Lost Kingdoms was actually published by Activision

DRJ · « **Reply #10 on:** June 23, 2003, 05:48:11 AM »

So long as nintendo keeps making their own games I dont really care what 3rd party developers come or go. Dont get me wrong, some 3rd party games are great, but most are sub par. Gamers like me a probably some of the reasons that 3rd party developers leave, since if I am at the store and see a 3rd party title, exclusive or not, and a nintendo made game, all things being equal I would buy the nintendo game.

On a ps2 system there are so many systems out there like 50 million that any game released on it will sell good. If a developer makes a game that sells only 1% it will still sell 500,000 copies. For nintendo owners we are very spoiled. Maybe if nintendo stopped making games we would have to settle for whatever was put out, but fortunetely we will never have to find out.

egman · « **Reply #11 on:** June 23, 2003, 06:19:29 AM »

Infernal Monkey--Oops! I get the two companies mixed up for some reason.

egman · « **Reply #12 on:** June 23, 2003, 06:21:08 AM »

Sorry, double post.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #13 on:** June 23, 2003, 06:35:31 AM »

If I were Nintendo I tell Acclaim if they don't want to develope GCN games then they can not develople GBA games and revoke their license. I would also go as far as to not let them develope games for any and all future Nintendo brand consoles. I think Nintendo should stand up and start throwing some weight around. And Josh and PIAc, I agree with you about us being smart enough to not buy Acclaims crap.

We should all let Acclaim know the reason their GCN games don't turn them a profit because we deserve something better than luke warm sh!t left out inthe rain.

You put sh!t games out for purchase, are you really that stupid to expect us, your moderately informed consumers to actually forget that magazines and websites exist to give gamers an idea as to whether or not a game is worth buying. Obvisouly not since you still have your head shoved so far up your ass that I think you have become accustomed to the darkness and the smell. So Acclaim, good riddance!

BlkPaladin · « **Reply #14 on:** June 23, 2003, 06:36:09 AM »

This isn't like they are droping all support they just don't have anything in the works for the console after 2004 currently. Acclaim is having financial troubles.

Bartman3010 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 23, 2003, 06:47:16 AM »

Turok Evolution was somewhat above average, but not that great.

As for the rest of Acclaims titles? Dont care. Anyway, I think most of everyone said how retarded the company is =P

Btw, I think Nintendo will survive.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #16 on:** June 23, 2003, 07:31:39 AM »

The problem with this scenario is that it shows a real negative market trend. Crappy games don't sell on Gamecube but they DO sell on the PS2 and Xbox. Therefore if a third party is in trouble they don't have to improve their games, they only have to move to PS2 and Xbox only. That's a VERY bad situation for gamers. Acclaim has had problems in the past and whenever they did you often saw a significant improvement in the quality of their software. Then after they felt they had "fooled" gamers into thinking they were good they went back to crap. Now Acclaim doesn't feel any need to improve and we're going to start seeing this thing increase. Sony is (hopefully unintentionally) giving developers an incentive to make mediocre games.

This is the sort of thing that eventually could lead to a major crash. Once consumers actually realize that they're buying a lot of crap we're going to see a lot of publishers and developers go under. This is why in hindsight Nintendo's strict control over what was released on their consoles wasn't that bad of an idea.

Nephilim · « **Reply #17 on:** June 23, 2003, 07:34:58 AM »

crazy taxi
toruk
burn out

quite a few decent games, but acclaim isnt making sequels for them at the moment
Toruk 3-4 were a joke
gc only got crazy taxi 1, when xbox got no.3
burnout 2 were still waiting for

aoi tsuki · « **Reply #18 on:** June 23, 2003, 07:58:54 AM »

Acclaim was only the publisher for Crazy Taxi, Hitmaker is the developer. Burnout 2 was just released, and it's great.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #19 on:** June 23, 2003, 09:08:15 AM »

"I think Nintendo should stand up and start throwing some weight around."

I completely agree- I think the fiasco with 3rd parties leaving Nintendo because they were too strict really made Nintendo suck up to them and they need to stop that.

Plugabugz · « **Reply #20 on:** June 23, 2003, 09:10:18 AM »

Acclaim are developing 'Alias', based around the TV series of the same name. It originally said on the website in a press release it will e for all consoles. Now, unsurprisingly says Xbob and PS2 only.

I haven't bought games from Acclaim, and judging by the sub-par games we're used to, I wouldn't to buy any either.

Bartman3010 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 23, 2003, 09:20:41 AM »

You know, they're really going to get an ass kick for that dumbass quote they said "Why should we develop for a system that doesnt generate a profit?" They must feel -real- cool right now.

They were decent back in the early N64 days. Then what happened? Apparently there was some merger between some companies and when Turok: Rage Wars and South Park came out, they began to suck horribly.

Good riddance to a dumpy developer. I'm not suprised if this company follows suit along with 3D0 and just calls it quits.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #22 on:** June 23, 2003, 09:53:01 AM »

"They were decent back in the early N64 days. Then what happened? Apparently there was some merger between some companies and when Turok: Rage Wars and South Park came out, they began to suck horribly."

That all fits in with the way Acclaim used to do things. During the early N64 days Acclaim was in trouble so they created some *Gasp* decent games on the N64 which basically saved their ass. Then once they knew they were okay they went back to being "Ack-Lame".

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #23 on:** June 23, 2003, 10:05:34 AM »

Why don't we all write a letter to Acclaim and tell them how glad (sic) we are they will no longer bother us with their shovelware?
I like to write bitterly sarcastic letters. I take after my mom.

Acclaim Entertainment, Inc.
One Acclaim Plaza
Glen Cove, New York 11542

aoi tsuki · « **Reply #24 on:** June 23, 2003, 10:08:10 AM »

They recently had a change in CEOs, and those are the comments from the new CEO, Rod Cousens. Seems to be the classic case of bringing in new management to fix the problems of the old.

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They were decent back in the early N64 days. Then what happened? Apparently there was some merger between some companies and when Turok: Rage Wars and South Park came out, they began to suck horribly.

If i remember correctly, Iguana (devs for the first two Turoks) got bought out by Acclaim and became Acclaim Studios Austin. Quality control became less important than releasing games in a timely fashion and... fast forward to today. On the other side of things, members of the original Wipeout team joined Acclaim Studios Cheltenham, and the Extreme G series was reborn in XG3.

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Author Topic: Acclaim drops all support for Nintendo! (Read 11421 times)