Topic: Reggie dropping a bomb at VGX Awards, what could it be?

[nickmitch]

I think Nintendo would really only buy Sega if Sega went to Nintendo first.  They'd have to be in deep **** with another, less desirable buyer knocking at the door.

[King of Twitch]

ya right, then they'd have to put the Nintendo Seal of Quality on a Sega game

[BranDonk Kong]

They stopped using the "Nintendo Seal of Quality" a long time ago, now it's just the "Official Nintendo Seal" that goes on all licensed products.

[NWR_insanolord]

Even the famously uncaring Nintendo couldn't live with putting the word quality on some of those games.

[King of Twitch]

They stopped using the "Nintendo Seal of Quality" a long time ago, now it's just the "Official Nintendo Seal" that goes on all licensed products.

Seal of Nerd for this guy^

[Khushrenada]

Even the famously uncaring Zap couldn't live with putting the word quality on some of Brandogg's posts.

[BranDonk Kong]

Damn. Burn for me.

[ThePerm]

I think Nintendo buying Sega makes about as much sense as Disney buying Marvel and Star Wars. In which case Nintendo should buy Capcom too.

The only reason Nintendo should do this is to pick up IP and keep them exclusive.

When Sony entered the business and then later Microsoft neither had any IPs, but now both groups have just as many as Nintendo and then on top of that get more exclusive third party games. The only way to counter this is to get more exclusives. The easiest way to do this is to buy some IPs. Nintendo has tried to create other IPs, but its a spaghetti sticking on the wall problem.

would Nintendo do this. Unlikely. It would however set Nintendo up for future long term success.

[Stratos]

Another problem is that Sony and Microsoft IPs only gain momentum and popularity as they get older. Some IPs of theirs are past the decade marker and so they can begin to leverage the nostalgia factor much like Nintendo has been doing for so long. Nintendo could begin to burn out their character's popularity and suffer from over-saturation. Younger IPs don't suffer from those issues as much.


Though a problem both Sony and Microsoft have are the fact it IS 3rd parties that carry the majority of the appeal on their consoles. Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy and others are not trapped on any particular system so they can easily defect to another if they wanted and the grass became green enough.

[Arbok]

I think Nintendo buying Sega makes about as much sense as Disney buying Marvel and Star Wars. In which case Nintendo should buy Capcom too.

Buying Sega doesn't make much sense... buying Capcom makes a lot of sense.

Outside of Sonic, Sega doesn't have nearly the brand recognition that Street Fighter, Mega Man and Resident Evil have (plus Monster Hunter in Japan). The purchase would really diversify their portfolio, and a lot of Capcom's franchises have a strong following of their own.

Will they do it? No, but Capcom makes the most sense if they were going to go after a major publisher from Japan.

[Adrock]

Buying Sega today makes a lot less sense than buying them when Sega discontinued Dreamcast and went third party. Back then, Sega still had some artistic integrity and many of their franchises weren't mothballed yet. Plus, we weren't far removed from the 16-but wars. That was the best time to take advantage of crossovers. There's still value in buying Sega if Nintendo wanted to go that route.

[NWR_insanolord]

The Sega that would have been worthy of buying wouldn't have put itself in a position to be bought. Nintendo would have had to really overpay, something I don't imagine Nintendo would ever be inclined to do, to get them back then. The same reasons they're not worth buying now are why it would be realistic to do so.

[Ron-F]

Nintendo gains very little buying SEGA, although I can see some merit in acquiring CAPCOM.


Regarding Reggie's Bomb, I don't expect anything worth of watching that show.

[Adrock]

The Sega that would have been worthy of buying wouldn't have put itself in a position to be bought. Nintendo would have had to really overpay, something I don't imagine Nintendo would ever be inclined to do, to get them back then. The same reasons they're not worth buying now are why it would be realistic to do so.

I disagree. Sega's software divisions weren't the reason their hardware failed. Their IPs and the teams themselves would be the entire point of any Sega acquisition. This is, of course, said under the presumption that we are discussing scenario where Sega wanted to be bought by Nintendo because Nintendo wouldn't acquire a company if they weren't sure they were also getting the talent too. Most, if not all, upper level management on the non-development side would likely get laid off in such a situation, not only because Nintendo has people to take care of that, but also because Sega's people clearly had no idea what they were doing. Nintendo doesn't need another company's IPs, but if any company can exploit the popularity of a variety of franchises, it's Nintendo.

Most acquisitions are overpaid. They wouldn't be for sale otherwise. The entire idea is to pay upfront and make it back later. Would Nintendo do that? In most cases, no. Nintendo probably overpaid for Monolith Software based on their output and operating cost versus revenue since being acquired. I still consider that acquisition worthwhile because Nintendo got a talented team that covers a need (e.g. games Nintendo typically does not make themselves).

If I remember correctly, Nintendo apparently didn't buy Sega in 2001/2002 because they didn't want to assume Sega's debt which isn't terribly surprising for typically frugal Nintendo. If the purpose of buying a company is to use that company for greater profits in the future, I think Nintendo could have made that happen, probably mostly though Virtual Console alone (taking into account Wii would have been the only way to legally play Sega's entire back catalog). It just would have taken a lot longer than their other acquisitions since Sega is much larger. Having all those additional teams with established IPs to work on would help a Nintendo that still struggles with software droughts today.

[Stratos]

If you think about it, Nintendo buying Sega in the early 2000's could have been a console war game-changer. That would have united both the Sega and Nintendo fans and potentially brought the install base up enough for them to become number one. And the biggest challenge for Nintendo-3rd party relations the last decade or more has been the low install base of core-players. Where they go, 3rd parties will follow.

[Mop it up]

Didn't Sega merge with Sammy? At this point, I don't think Sega could be bought as a separate entity, Nintendo would have to buy SegaSammy and that would be too expensive.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Not if Sammy was willing to part with the SEGA portion.

Sammy turned them around (debt-wise), but I don't know what their current situation is regarding profitability.
The IP grab from Sega might be nice, but the IP grab from Capcom would be more excitable amongst the targeted userbase.

[Spak-Spang]

Even if Nintendo was to buy Sega, and all their development teams and assets...it does not mean more games will instantly be developed.  You still have to afford to pay all the teams developing those games.  And 4-5 additional studios developing big games is expensive. 

It would a huge boon for Nintendo to do this.  Even if the talent from Sega eventually left, the assets from known franchises would still be there.  And a Mario/Sonic platformer would be the biggest game in the world. 

[ShyGuy]

What if Nintendo bought Tecmo Koei?

[Mannypon]

Nintendo should just buy Squareenix and Capcom so they can lock up Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and Monster Hunter.  With that trinity they'll secure the motherland with an iron grip lol.
 
Now that I've contributed to the side convo lol, is there anyway to add a poll to this thread with options like...Reggie will reveal....

1.  that Mario 3d World is out and we should buy it
2.  some throw away ridiculous reveal that's so funny that it hurts and scares yet might even be true lol
3.  an official X trailer
4.  a Zelda tease
5.  a Metroid tease
6.  something else.
 
Or something to that affect lol.  you get my drift lol. 
 

[Oblivion]

Square-Enix is still way too big to be bought at this point.

[Mannypon]

Well a couple of updates that may or may not have anything to do with this Saturday.  Reggie has been at the helm of Nintendo's twitter account and Instagram it seems today.  A lot of the things he has posted has caught my attention.  Here is a roundup of what I've seen.

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1.  http://instagram.com/nintendo#

Nintendo's instagram page.  If you take a look at the pics posted from today, there seem to be a lot of Zelda references.  There are 2 pictures of Ganon and one a video of Reggie's master sword replica.  There is also a picture of a folder with a 3ds on top of it which Reggie says

We have big plans in store for 2014, and I can’t wait to share with you what’s in this folder! #Regginator

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2.  These pictures from today's "TweetUp" have been posted.  I found them at Neogaf so I thought I'd share.


 
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3.  Here is a tweet sent out by a Holly Bowen who was attending this event.  I'm not familiar with her but since she's there, I figured its relevant.

Reggie said his VGX appearance will not be prerecorded. Not giving up any hints, though. #ImWithReggie

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Now, looking at all this, one can reach many conclusions which again, may or may not mean anything.  There is a lot of Zelda fanfare here but is it because Zelda just released on the 3ds? Is it because he is hinting at revealing something Zelda related on Saturday? or Is it that Reggie wants to troll us extra hard?  Its anyone's guess. 
 
At the instragram, you can see pictures of them playing the new DKC and a video of someone playing WiiSports Golf.  Hopefully neither of these are an indication of what we'll be seeing come Saturday but who knows.  Hopefully that is saved for a NintendoDirect. 
 
Finally, the tweet regarding Reggie's appearance not being prerecorded is strange.  The whole show is prerecorded so why would Reggie choose to do something live?  Does he not want to risk whatever he is planning to announce or show getting leaked early by word of mouth?  Again, who knows.
 

And finally, its only fitting that I throw a wrench into the whole discussion as if it wasn't already a mystery bag of assumptions.

http://www.examiner.com/article/titanfall-quantum-break-witcher-3-new-wii-u-title-to-be-revealed-at-vgx

This site says "new WiiU title to be revealed at VGX" and then quotes an official press release by Nintendo as stating "a new look at an upcoming Wii U game". 
 
So there you have it, it seems like it'll be another look at an already revealed game (hopefully X lol)  This seems like the best bet but then again, there seems to be so much other things that could leave you to believe it could be something more.  All in all, this Saturday will be interesting one way or another. 
 

[azeke]

That Z logo with a sword, is that new? I don't think i ever saw it before.

[Mannypon]

I've never seen it before but I'm not up to speed on all Zelda logos, specially on attire lol.  Looks sweet though.
 

Here's one last nugget before I head off to bed.  Hope to find this thread a blazing with convo tomorrow after the late night dinner spread I've left you all lol. 

In a response to someone asking whether the reveal is of a new game or one we've heard of, here is what Geoff Keighley had to say

You've got to ask Reggie that one. He's personally coming to deliver the world premiere.

and then soon after, confirming the fact that he won't be prerecorded

No Reggie will be live with us in la

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/statuses/408050833238933504

[Enner]

The VGX show is streamed live on Gametrailers.com and such, I think.

As for what Reggie is going to show, I'm mentally preparing myself for a Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze trailer in the hopes that I will be pleasantly surprised.

Given comments on the Wii U Zelda, a trailer or tease of that game is a good bet at this point.