Topic: Wii U to miss out on 15 EA Games

[Shorty McNostril]

Avalanche Studio's Wii U dev kits collecting dust.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-09-wii-u-dev-kits-just-collected-dust-at-avalanche-studios

[ymeegod]

"All three console have similar architectures, so "

To lazy to type but WII U is an ARM chip vs PS4/PC/XBOX? which is x86. "ARM is a RISC (Reduced Instruction Set Computing) architecture while x86 being a CISC (Complex Instruction Set Computing) one."

ARM is pretty big with mobile devices since it saves power but it's still weaker than it's X86 counterpart.  Take an Arm chip with the same cores and the same MHz it's going lose to the x86 chipset in terms of power. 

[ShyGuy]

WII U has a PowerPC chip.

edit: also, RISC is more efficient than CISC

[Pixelated Pixies]

They both pale in comparison to the power of a fish 'n' chip. I picked one up last week which was SAV (salt and vinegar) enabled.

[azeke]

Avalanche Studio's Wii U dev kits collecting dust.

And whose fault is this?

These guys are just as bad as studios who mailed back free devkits without even opening.

[ymeegod]

Oh yeah, but PowerPC is still more similar to Risc than Cisc. 

[ShyGuy]

RISC is the style of architecture. Pretty much any modern processor except x86 based CPUs uses RISC.

[paleselan]

Eh, I'll be buying a PS4 anyway. While there are no achievements on the system, my Wii U will stay only be used for Wii U exclusives.

[ShyGuy]

I don't understand the appeal of system wide achievements.

[Louieturkey]

I do believe PowerPC cores are more powerful than x86 cores.  The problem is the fact that the Wii U has 3 while the PS4 has 8.  The multitasking on the PS4 will be amazing I think.

[smallsharkbigbite]

<quote>"RISC is the style of architecture. Pretty much any modern processor except x86 based CPUs uses RISC."</quote>

But PS4, Xbox and PC games all use x86 right?  And these are what the majority of console makers make their games on.  So it seems to add an extra step in the process to port multi console games to the Wii.  Frostbite 3 already works on x86, it would require optimization for the Wii U.  I don't buy that they can't get it working, but it seems if Nintendo was going for more 3rd party support, they should have used the standard system rather than just use what Apple uses.

<quote>I don't understand the appeal of system wide achievements.</quote>

I don't think achievements are the end all, but they expand a games playtime and typically enjoyment.  I.E. PS3 games have trophies that require a specific thing or type of playthrough to obtain.  Like a game might give you a trophy for beating levels without getting damage, or beating a game only using one weapon, or beating a level without killing anyone.  People that like to 100% games would enjoy achievements.   I like having these additional goals instead of just beat the game. 

[RedBlue]

With Microsoft and Sony going with x86 there is no reason to get one. All of their games are going to be on PC (excluding exclusives). So a PC and Wii U combo is the way to go for this new gen.
As far as the CPU that Sony is using an AMD jaguar based CPU that is designed for low power devices as it is design to use around 15 to 25W and it is the cheapest CPU they make. This processors would normally go with cheap laptops or ultra books,  etc. Don't get impressed with the 8 cores because Sony and s doing a lot of shut with those 8 cores the also ties to the 8GB of RAM that's unified a.k.a. It is shared with all the social stuff. So in the end we end up with a bunch of awesome marketing bullet points that sound more awesome more then what they are.

[Shaymin]

With Microsoft and Sony going with x86 there is no reason to get one. All of their games are going to be on PC (excluding exclusives). So a PC and Wii U combo is the way to go for this new gen.

Isn't that the kicker, though - the exclusives? I've accepted that there's certain games that will only come to the PS4 (good baseball games, some RPGs from Japan studios, and probably Last Guardian) so I'll have to pick one up once they lose the PSEye.

[pokepal148]

<quote>"RISC is the style of architecture. Pretty much any modern processor except x86 based CPUs uses RISC."</quote>

But PS4, Xbox and PC games all use x86 right?  And these are what the majority of console makers make their games on.  So it seems to add an extra step in the process to port multi console games to the Wii.  Frostbite 3 already works on x86, it would require optimization for the Wii U.  I don't buy that they can't get it working, but it seems if Nintendo was going for more 3rd party support, they should have used the standard system rather than just use what Apple uses.

<quote>I don't understand the appeal of system wide achievements.</quote>

I don't think achievements are the end all, but they expand a games playtime and typically enjoyment.  I.E. PS3 games have trophies that require a specific thing or type of playthrough to obtain.  Like a game might give you a trophy for beating levels without getting damage, or beating a game only using one weapon, or beating a level without killing anyone.  People that like to 100% games would enjoy achievements.   I like having these additional goals instead of just beat the game. 

learn to reply noob

[Soren]

Every single game EA has released for the Wii U has been a delayed release(in comparison to other platforms). What kind of sales were they really expecting from these games? Most homes are multi-console and anyone who really wanted said games already got them on another platform. They had to know sales were going to be low.

[Louieturkey]

Every single game EA has released for the Wii U has been a delayed release(in comparison to other platforms). What kind of sales were they really expecting from these games? Most homes are multi-console and anyone who really wanted said games already got them on another platform. They had to know sales were going to be low.

Yep, which is why it's all just an excuse.  It's a way they can justify it without saying they hate Nintendo for not letting them run the Nintendo Network.

[Ceric]

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Last Guardian
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lol
Stop Trolling Shaymin...

Apple hasn't used PowerPC for many years now.  Seriously enough though x86 is probably one of the most inefficient chips out their now.  When it was made it was great but its been extended tons and hasn't kept up with modern Architecture.  Intel knew this.  Everything was slated to be on the Itaniums (IA64) Architecture now by their roadmap before AMD extend x86 to 64 bit.  Crying shame too.  We could have much faster comptures.

[Mannypon]

So much for EA not having any games in development for Nintendo.
EA's chief financial officer Blake Jorgensen

You know I will ultimately let consumers vote on PS vs. Xbox.  You know I think Nintendo's business was more of an extension of their last console.  We are building titles for the Nintendo consoles, but not anywhere near as many as we are for PS or Xbox.  You know, what I think the consumer will find is a lot more powerful gameplay with the new boxes that are coming out, and a lot of excitement, but it will remain to be seen as to the services associated with those how the consumers decide which direction they want to go.

Looks like EA was just trolling us hard yet again or could they have finally opened their eyes to what took place today at MS's presentation    lol.  I kid, I kid, but seriously, what the hell is going on with EA.  Does anyone know what they are doing there? 
 
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=561121

[oohhboy]

Everytime EA mentions Special Relationship, I am imagining a syringe full of a cocktail of every disease known to man to induce Three Stooges Syndrome.

[alegoicoe]

And the bullshit comes around to bite em in the ass once again.

[Mannypon]

You know, what I think the consumer will find is a lot more powerful gameplay with the new boxes that are coming out, and a lot of excitement, but it will remain to be seen as to the services associated with those how the consumers decide which direction they want to go. 

That part speaks volumes to me. "powerfull gameplay" is straight up bull that doesn't make any sense at all.  He's just trying to justify their support for the other 2.  Yet the end of the sentence from "but" and on shows that EA is still unsure of how consumers will take Sony and MS's new approaches and policies. 

[ShyGuy]

Hey! Listen!

EA's CFO Blake Jorgensen says "We are building titles for the Nintendo Console"

http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/21/4351844/ea-developing-wii-u-games

[Mannypon]

Hey! Listen!

EA's CFO Blake Jorgensen says "We are building titles for the Nintendo Console"

http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/21/4351844/ea-developing-wii-u-games

lol that's what I posted 3 posts above you lol.  Just messing with ya lol.  Its good to see EA back under the sheets with Nintendo.  Hopefully they get ontop of getting their engines running on the WiiU already and stop the BS. 

[ShyGuy]

Iwata dropped some truth bombs on them.

[NWR_insanolord]

Given the current state of EA, if I were the NFL I'd be looking for a way out of the exclusivity deal. That company is a mess, and seems to be falling apart.