Topic: Nintendo hope to introduce Retro's new Wii U game in 'not so distant future'

[Fatty The Hutt]

It may appear kiddy and wimpy to those "a little older" but not to those old enough to recognize the charm.

[Fjurbanski]

Yeah, those things would appear kiddy and wimpy, but only to kids and wimps. Anyone with any level of maturity wouldn't be bothered by it. Just like they aren't bothered by Smash Bros.


I think Mario Paintball would be hilarious.

[Stogi]

Eidos and Retro team up to bring us Time Splitters 4.

The internet explodes.

[marty]

Retro doing a LoZ game would be amazing (maybe).  The Primes are my favorite Metroid games and Retro seems well suited for making epic games with little in the way of superfluous garbage that a lot of studios feel like shoving into their titles.

[Stogi]

Do you not remember collecting artifacts?

[marty]

Do you not remember collecting artifacts?

i didn't say they were perfect.  And the collectathons and padding in the MP games are nothing compared to the last decade of Zelda games.

[Ian Sane]

Metroid Prime not only had the stupid artifact hunt but respawning Chozo Ghosts in every room that were clearly there to pad the game and add an artificial challenge.  The game's brilliance was in its innovation but it wasn't perfectly executed.  I personally prefer the second game.

Though one thing that Metroid Prime really got right was the story was mostly discovered by the player in the form of scans or in the actions players actually did.  Those games don't constantly shove long unskippable cutscenes in your face.

[TJ Spyke]

But with the Chozo Ghosts, you usually could just skip them and continue to the next room.

[Stogi]

Some rooms you had to kill them and some others you didn't.

[MagicCow64]

I don't think the existence of DKCR is necessarily indicative of the future direction of the studio. Metroid Prime tore a new space in the realm of gaming, and they followed that up with a brilliant iteration of a classic 2D platform series. If anything I think it's more likely that they'd swing back toward a Metroid Prime-type game in the form of a new IP or another dormant IP that is so transformed as to be new. Really, really doubt they'd be given full helm on a Mario Kart or Zelda game (that's what Japan is for), and I kinda doubt Nintendo considers Star Fox or F-Zero worth the full attention of Retro (for better or worse).

I think this is going to be a surprise. After all, I really doubt they needed a Metroid-sized staff for DKCR. A good contingent of the company must have been working on something for quite some time. 

[Spak-Spang]

Actually, I know I have said this before but a Mario type Platforming FPS/ 3rdPS would be quite innovative, and Nintendo has proven it can and WOULD work with Super Mario Galaxy. 

Imagine for a second playing Mario Galaxy...but not trying to just collect Stars but attacking your friends trying to collect Stars. 

To collect a Star is not to just to get from point A to point B, but to solve puzzles and prevent your friend from doing those said puzzles.  I would be a blast.  And the concept of the Wii controller makes it possible.  As long as you get the speed of weapons correct.  Not too slow, but not too fast to be instant hits...and the concept of leading your opponent in attacks it could work. 

That said, the game doesn't have to be Mario related.  It just has to be fun.

[Pixelated Pixies]

Stop talking about Metroid Prime! Otherwise I'm going to feel compelled to play the Trilogy for a 3rd time. Damn those games are good!

[Soren]

From most to least want:

1. F-Zero
2. Star Fox
3. Metroid Prime
4. New IP
5. Eternal Darkness
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49. Ice Climbers Reboot
50. DKCR 2
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2509. Mario Kart Wii U

[ThePerm]

I don't want it to be an existing franchise. I'd hate to have this hype for this unknown thing that could possibly be a predictable given. If it is an old franchise it would have to be something that is so old and obscure that it would have little to do with the original game. Star Tropics or Mach Rider would be candidates, but if it ends up being something like Star Fox or Mario Kart my next thought would be "business as usual, oh gee big surprise another predictable release"

What would be even better is if the studio had expanded enough to be making multiple games at once. Kinda what had been originally envisioned.

So how is that RavenBlade coming along?

[the asylum]

Eternal Darkness needs a sequel as much as the Watchmen needed a prequel (And not just because Before Watchmen is awful)

[Plugabugz]

Nintendo needs to buy Monster Games and Next Level Games and let them both (plus Retro) create some western/american styled franchises.

Since the early 2000s Nintendo has gone from a stable of western teams to just Retro now. They really do need to invest to move forward a little.

Platinum Games would have been useful too, if it were still available.

[Adrock]

Who are we considering as Nintendo's former Western development stable? Left Field Productions made a few decent NBA games as well as Excitebike 64. Does Rare count? I always consider "West" as referring to North America. Even if we consider Rare, we shouldn't ignore how much hand-holding they required to produce results. Who knows what the status of Silicon Knights is? They made one really good original game (with heavy involvement from Nintendo) and rode that horse for the next decade before falling so tremendously. Are we counting Factor 5 and Angel Studios (now Rockstar San Diego)? Were they ever officially part of Nintendo's stable? I'm sure TJ or Luigi Dude will do the research since I'm too lazy. Nintendo Software Technologies should just be renamed Mario vs Donkey Kong eShop Studio.

Retro Studios is the best Western team ever associated with Nintendo. Unless you count Factor 5, they're essentially the only Western team to produce results on major projects with any kind of autonomy and even then, they've lost a lot of good people. Sure, they replaced those departures by hiring talent from Naughty Dog, id Software, and Vigil Games, but I have to wonder if the new people will mesh as well as the old or if we'll end up with the 2012-2013 Los Angeles Lakers... This season was brutal.

As far as I know, Platinum Games is technically available in that they're an independent company that could join Nintendo. Their only announced projects are for Wii U. Company president, Tatsuya Minami, is already on record stating that they will be making PS4 games. Acquiring the company would only be worth it if they wanted to become a Nintendo first party (no point if, say, Atsushi Inaba and Hideki Kamiya up and left) and Nintendo let them just make whatever they wanted. If they were just handed a bunch of Nintendo IPs to handle, that would be a colossal waste of their talent. Not saying they couldn't make a good Star Fox, F-Zero, or Metroid, just that forcing them to work within the confines of existing franchises they didn't create themselves is limiting for such talented game designers.

I'd hate to have this hype for this unknown thing that could possibly be a predictable given.

Manage your expectations. Neither Nintendo nor Retro Studios are responsible for the hype the media and gamers are creating for this mystery game, unless you count silence as hype. They've said very little other than they've had Wii U development kits and are working on a Wii U game in addition to a few off-hand comments that people blew up.

[RarityGamer]

I'd like to see Nintendo look at more Western developers. They don't need to get loads, but there seems to be a gap since Rare went. Retro are great, but I think more is needed.

[Ian Sane]

I think Western typically refers to devs that are not Japanese.  Western culture as opposed to literal Western geography.

With Nintendo's infrequent release schedule they need for dev teams period, not just Western ones.  They should make an effort to expand no matter what.  The Wii U is pretty much dying on Nintendo not having enough manpower to make games in a decent timeframe.  Rare alone would release like two games a year and Retro releases like one every two years at best.  Videogames just take longer to develop now.

[ThePerm]

@adrock (because i don't want to quote the whole post or edit)

Its not so much about managing my expectations, its the expectations Nintendo creates by not mentioning it. If it were Mario Kart or Star Fox then there is absolutely no reason to keep it secret and under a veil. Everyone knows Nintendo makes Mario Kart and Starfox every couple of years. It is not a surprise to make those games. Its a dumb decision to not show even pre-liminary screenshots of those games because the systems sells are slagging. Perhaps some buzz for those games would drive some sales?

[Pixelated Pixies]

I think Star Fox has been out of the limelight long enough for a new instalment to big news. It would be even bigger news if it was a Star Fox game developed by Retro studios. That's the type of news that Nintendo probably would want to keep secret to maximise the impact of the announcement.
 
Having said that, I hope Retro aren't making a Star Fox game. I hope their ambitions are much broader in scope.

[Oblivion]

Sorry to be that guy, I'd rather them release Metroid Prime 4 on Wii U with Metroid Prime Trilogy HD handled by another developer.

[RarityGamer]

I don't think another Metroid Prime is needed. The trilogy was good, but the last game wasn't that long ago really.


Would love a new starfox mind. It's been awhile since Nintendo really gave it any attention.

[Oblivion]

Prime 3 came out in 2007. It's been six years. I don't think it was that long ago.

[ShyGuy]

Retro apparently needs to make a football game with team creation and community shared rosters.