Topic: Bill Trinen is Director of Product Marketing

[ShyGuy]

Here I thought he was still head of Nintendo Treehouse (translations) but he has moved up in the world. Is he being groomed to take over for Reggie eventually?

HOWEVER if he is director of marketing, then he has dropped the ball with the Wii U.

Hey, Broodwars, you seem to hate Nintendo executives, should we get out the long knives for Bill Trinen?

Bill Trinen is a video game SAINT and I will fight anyone who says otherwise.

[alegoicoe]

Not only he has dropped the ball with the Wii U but the 3DS as well, I think Nintendo Direct's have created more talking than the official marketing campaigns for both consoles.

[Ceric]

Theirs an official campaign?

[alegoicoe]

Theirs an official campaign?

I don't know, I imagine there is something official from NOA that promotes Nintendo products.

[broodwars]

Hey, Broodwars, you seem to hate Nintendo executives, should we get out the long knives for Bill Trinen?

Actually, I believe the only Nintendo executive I've said I outright don't like is Reggie, who I think is incompetent and ineffectual in his role at NoA.  I don't think Iwata's doing a particularly good job as head of Nintendo, but I don't actually dislike him.  Ditto for Miyamoto, who I like personally but don't think has proven to be a good overseer of others' projects in the past few years.

Plus, I have previously stated on the internet (probably a Twitter conversation with Insanolord) that I'm in favor of Bill Trinen leading NoA. He has the experience, he knows NoA, and he knows firsthand the quality NoA can turn out from his experience as head of Nintendo Treehouse.  And unlike Reggie, even when he's shilling something I still buy some amount of sincerity from him about the product.

[Kairon]

Is it time to break out the #TeamReggie and #TeamTrinen tags?

[Oblivion]

Sessler and Trinen in one video? Hell yes.

[Ian Sane]

I don't like Iwata and Miyamoto as executives but I admire their historical work as game creators.  Both men contributed a lot of my videogame fandom.  Reggie isn't a videogame guy so that hurts him.  Like if you had him play Super Metroid or Ocarina of Time would he get why those games are great?

Regarding the marketing of the Wii U, I don't see ads but I found in the past I used to see lots of Nintendo ads during WWF Raw and my TV viewing habbits are totally different now so for all I know Nintendo has tons of commercials but not on the types of programming I watch.  A lot of the concern is that the Wii U's name and appearance is too similar to the Wii, thus causing confusion that the Wii U is merely a Wii accessory.  Well NOA didn't design the name or the look of the system so I'm not going to hold Bill Trinen, Reggie or anyone at NOA responsible for that.  Bill also is not at fault for the Wii U having so little games out.  I tend to hold marketing responsible when a product SHOULD be selling but isn't.

[shingi_70]

Is it time to break out the #TeamReggie and #TeamTrinen tags?

#TeamAdelman

[Louieturkey]

Is it time to break out the #TeamReggie and #TeamTrinen tags?

#TeamAdelman

Rick?

[shingi_70]

Is it time to break out the #TeamReggie and #TeamTrinen tags?

#TeamAdelman

Rick?

Dan the gut behind Nintendo's digital efforts.

[Louieturkey]

Is it time to break out the #TeamReggie and #TeamTrinen tags?

#TeamAdelman

Rick?

Dan the gut behind Nintendo's digital efforts.

You want him to be CEO?

[shingi_70]

Is it time to break out the #TeamReggie and #TeamTrinen tags?

#TeamAdelman

Rick?

Dan the gut behind Nintendo's digital efforts.

You want him to be CEO?

Not really just think he's a cool guy. If anything Trinen being the CEO with Adelman being over NOA's developer relations could be a boon for the company.

[Caliban]

I think Bill Trinen's a cool guy.

[Ceric]

Hey, Broodwars, you seem to hate Nintendo executives, should we get out the long knives for Bill Trinen?

Actually, I believe the only Nintendo executive I've said I outright don't like is Reggie, who I think is incompetent and ineffectual in his role at NoA.  I don't think Iwata's doing a particularly good job as head of Nintendo, but I don't actually dislike him.  Ditto for Miyamoto, who I like personally but don't think has proven to be a good overseer of others' projects in the past few years.

Plus, I have previously stated on the internet (probably a Twitter conversation with Insanolord) that I'm in favor of Bill Trinen leading NoA. He has the experience, he knows NoA, and he knows firsthand the quality NoA can turn out from his experience as head of Nintendo Treehouse.  And unlike Reggie, even when he's shilling something I still buy some amount of sincerity from him about the product.

I think you've said that on the Podcast.

[Fatty The Hutt]

Is it time to break out the #TeamReggie and #TeamTrinen tags?

I know which side I'm on!

[tendoboy1984]

What happened to Scott Moffit? I thought he was head of marketing?


I'm glad NOA is promoting Trinen to a better position where he actually has some influence within the company. Reggie is an outsider who knows next to nothing about video games, and Moffit just seems like a poser.


Between Reggie and Moffit, Trinen is the only one with actual experience in game development (as head of Nintendo's Treehouse localization team). He would be the perfect guy to take over NOA once Reggie is kicked out.

[TJ Spyke]

What happened to Scott Moffit? I thought he was head of marketing?

He is Executive Vice President of Sales & Marketing.

Why would Reggie be kicked out? He's not doing that bad of a job, he is doing good with what Japan gives him.

[tendoboy1984]

What happened to Scott Moffit? I thought he was head of marketing?

He is Executive Vice President of Sales & Marketing.

Why would Reggie be kicked out? He's not doing that bad of a job, he is doing good with what Japan gives him.

Reggie should allow NST to make more games themselves, instead of just Mario vs DK sequels. And he needs to expand Retro Studios so they can work on multiple projects at a time.

And Nintendo of Europe doesn't even make anything. They're just a localizing branch. Why doesn't Nintendo just open up a few studios in Europe so they can have more games in development on a regular basis?

Nintendo really needs to expand their game development outside of Japan. It's one of the reason's why Sony has so many franchises at their disposal, they have studios around the world working on stuff.

[TJ Spyke]

You realize it's NCL (Japan) who decides when branches of Nintendo gets to make games? Sony lets their regional branches have a lot of autonomy. Nintendo doesn't. So Reggie is not able to do the same things SCEA can. Trinnen would not be any different. You seem to be under the impression that Reggie has more power than Iwata actually gives him.

[tendoboy1984]

You realize it's NCL (Japan) who decides when branches of Nintendo gets to make games? Sony lets their regional branches have a lot of autonomy. Nintendo doesn't. So Reggie is not able to do the same things SCEA can. Trinnen would not be any different. You seem to be under the impression that Reggie has more power than Iwata actually gives him.

Well then Nintendo needs to get with the times. They should give their regional branches more autonomy and creative freedom, or else they'll always be stuck in the past. Even SEGA had a US studio back in the 1990's that worked on Sonic 2 and Sonic 3, in addition to games like Crazy Taxi and Daytona USA.

[TJ Spyke]

And look what happened to Sega, and Sony is in deep red.

[pokepal148]

Nintendo should have around 5 developers based in the western hemisphere, they could even call them 'The Western 5'

[shingi_70]

And look what happened to Sega, and Sony is in deep red.

That's mostly due to systems not selling or being overpriced and not because of having more western devs.
Nintendo won't ever let NOA or NOE have more autonym in fear of exactly what's happening at sony where the leader system Architect is a Western and scee and sceaa having way more pull than scej has at this point.

[pokepal148]

And look what happened to Sega, and Sony is in deep red.

That's mostly due to systems not selling or being overpriced

gee, sounds familiar