Author Topic: Wind Waker 2 (Read 49410 times)

Ocarina_Jedi · « **Reply #75 on:** August 11, 2003, 08:05:04 AM »

I think that the games up to this point have been fine without voice acting. Maybe that's just cuz I'm an old-school gamer, but if Link starts talking in the next game, that will totally change the game. Perhaps talking in cutscenes would be ok, but not in everyday conversation with NPCs. I mean, Link has looked kinda dumb in the cutscenes before, just silently standing there. But then the game would be awkward since characters would only talk some of the time.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #76 on:** August 11, 2003, 10:33:00 AM »

If Ninty ever begins to include voice-acting in the Zelda series, they definitely will not give Link a voice. The whole point of not including VA up to this point is so the gamer fills the shoes of Link, imagining his or her own personality for the hero.

Shadow Link · « **Reply #77 on:** August 16, 2003, 03:55:54 AM »

SPOILERS

Its impossible for link to reclaim the Master Sword now that it is resting under the ocean in Ganodorfs Head so I doubt it would be a Ganondorf Game. Nintendo needs to keep it fresh by not having the same enemy in every game. I prefere Ganondorf over skull kid

but if they have Ganondorf in every game it will begin to be stupid. They should have a similar game to Majora's Mask as a sequal without Ganondorf and then have a proper 3d engine of the next Zelda for the N5 so then people can get the darker zelda ganondorf included.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #78 on:** August 16, 2003, 06:32:49 AM »

Hostile Creation, which avatar were you talking about? This one is 64x55 pixels, and I don't recall having anything over 64x64 unless it was off by like, one pixel.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #79 on:** August 17, 2003, 07:33:36 AM »

Nah, just for a while before I posted that message you had an avatar that was about (several hundred)X(several hundred) that screwed up the whole page.

Oldskool · « **Reply #80 on:** August 17, 2003, 09:24:44 AM »

I've had an idea for a brand new franchise that has Zelda 64 styling (graphical and basic game mechanics), only probably more dark. The hero not only has Link-like abilities, but he can gain supernatural attachments to his body that appear whenever he is starteled, scoked or angry. What they are depend on the path you take and your personality and style (Talking and stuff is huge, making it more RPG-like). Also, How skilled you are at various things (small and large blades, good at perswading, stealthiness) is determined by how much you use them, kinda like the excellent Elder Scrolls series for the PC. The AI would is way more human-like, and most of the enemies are humans, if not humanoid!. There are also mutiple ways to complete quests, and TONS of endings! Also, if can't control your anger, suprise, or any other feeeling in and out of combat , you can lose control of your supernatural body parts temporarily, but you you still have control of the the rest of yourself!

i dunno, just my idea...

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #81 on:** August 17, 2003, 10:21:17 AM »

Sounds more like an RPG than a Zelda game to me. . .

Oh, brand new franchise. Didn't see that at first. Well, whatever.

Oldskool · « **Reply #82 on:** August 18, 2003, 11:22:21 AM »

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Sounds more like an RPG than a Zelda game to me. . .

Oh, brand new franchise. Didn't see that at first. Well, whatever.

It's got more RPG influence in it than Zelda, but it is still a Zelda-like game.

Termin8Anakin · « **Reply #83 on:** August 18, 2003, 08:41:23 PM »

Wind Waker 2 is a direct sequel to Wind Waker, obviously.

Did you guys ever try to go beyond the map of the Great Sea?
King says that it's too dangerous and it hasn't been discovered yet, or something like that. Perhaps the new game will be set there? Setting a new adventure in the exact same place would be weird.

Besides, Ninty said that each adventure is a different Link in a different time period.
While WW2 is a direct sequel and will have the same Link from WW, the Zelda game AFTER WW2, which would be on GC2, might even be set BEFORE WW and OoT, where Hyrule has not yet been flooded by the gods.

I think WW2 would be influenced by the voyages of the past where explorers set out to find 'new worlds'. Perhaps when they find a new world, the people are plagued by evil, and that is where Link comes in. Tetra and her pirates may be downed and Tetra kidnapped, so that would be where the damsel in distress thing comes in.
Obviously the evil can't be Gannon, cause Link just turned him to stone. Perhaps the followers of Gannon set out and started summons to revive him and terrorized the people to prepare for his return?

We'll just have to find out.

Shorty McNostril · « **Reply #84 on:** August 18, 2003, 10:56:54 PM »

Yes, but Link will need the master sword to use in the game. WHat is a Zelda game without the basic Zelda elements. The game needs the Master Sword like it needs a Link and Zelda.

Ocarina Blue · « **Reply #85 on:** August 19, 2003, 12:15:36 AM »

Majora's Mask never had the master sword, and if WW2 is similar to WW the same way that MM was similar to OoT, its possible that there is no master sword in WW2. Gut because hes at the bottom of the ocean, maybe the sea is drained, then Link somehows is tricked into pulling out the Master Sword, reviving Gannon.

Shorty McNostril · « **Reply #86 on:** August 19, 2003, 06:53:16 PM »

I thought there was a master sword. My friend says that you upgrade it.

Ocarina_Jedi · « **Reply #87 on:** August 21, 2003, 02:14:53 PM »

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Originally posted by: Shorty McNostril
I thought there was a master sword. My friend says that you upgrade it.

MM did have a 'master' sword, but not THE Master Sword. Unlike in OoT, where you had to find the Master Sword, in MM you took your sword to the smothy and if you had enough cash, he'd upgrade it two times.
If WW2 is going to be what MM was to OoT, then maybe it won't have the Master Sword. But MM wasn't a real sequel, so if WW2 is a sequel, it might have just about everything the same as WW except in a new place.

Ocarina_Jedi · « **Reply #88 on:** August 21, 2003, 02:17:28 PM »

But again, to get the Master

Ocarina_Jedi · « **Reply #89 on:** August 21, 2003, 02:29:49 PM »

If Link takes the Master Sword out of Ganon's head, he'll revive him just like he freed the monsters in the castle when he pulled out the sword in WW. I think that there will be a new villan, so no Ganon means no Master Sword.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #90 on:** August 22, 2003, 01:53:23 PM »

It's funny that everyone just assumes he'll be revived. Sure, it's likely, I suppose. But usually when people turn to stone they don't come back. Except in Rocky Horror, but that's so ridiculous it doesn't count.

Klutzy Girl · « **Reply #91 on:** August 23, 2003, 12:11:31 PM »

But you have to remember that it's only a game and anything can happen. And I totally think that Gannon is going to come back. I mean when you stick the sword into his head he starts laughing!! obviously that doesn't mean anything good!

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #92 on:** August 23, 2003, 12:38:35 PM »

He also laughed when he lost the Triforce and failed his mission in life (to obtain Hyrule). He's crazy. Crazy people laugh when they die.

I do think it's possible that he'll come back, though I might prefer it if he didn't. It just strikes me as humorous that everyone assumes he will, not even bothering to say IF he comes back, such and such will happen. They just say, yeah, he's coming back. I think it's kind of funny.

littledrunkard · « **Reply #93 on:** August 27, 2003, 01:40:01 PM »

It seems like some of you have never played a Zelda game....we always kill Ganon and he ALWAYS returns! if you actually bothered to read the part at the start of The Wind Waker then you would realise that Link has never been the same person...he is just 'a boy dressed in green come to save the world'. Of course Ganon will be in the next game, as will Zelda and the rest of the posse! and i'm so glad it's cel-shaded, because when has Zelda EVER been 'realistic' as people seem to keep calling it? OoT wasn't realistic whatsoever! you're all basing these hopes on that one video that was released with Link fighting Ganondorf, but in my mind that wasn't Zelda! if you want something like that go play Morowind or Everquest! 'nough said!!!

Ocarina Blue · « **Reply #94 on:** August 27, 2003, 06:51:09 PM »

Gannon and Zelda weren't in Majora's Mask though, and Majora's Mask featured the same Link as Ocarina of Time did. The end of Wind Waker did set itself up quite nicely for a sequel.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #95 on:** August 28, 2003, 11:05:33 AM »

Nor was he in Link's Awakening. And villains aren't necessarily around forever. I also think Andross might be gone for good. Ganondorf may very well come back, but I can A: reassure you that it will not be in Wind Waker 2, and B: point out the fact that he may in fact be dead for real this time. And it's not always a different Link (OoT-MM, for example), but there are different ones.

Marcus Arillius · « **Reply #96 on:** August 28, 2003, 11:13:36 AM »

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Originally posted by: littledrunkard
and i'm so glad it's cel-shaded, because when has Zelda EVER been 'realistic' as people seem to keep calling it? OoT wasn't realistic whatsoever! you're all basing these hopes on that one video that was released with Link fighting Ganondorf, but in my mind that wasn't Zelda! if you want something like that go play Morowind or Everquest! 'nough said!!!

Of course no-one actually thinks its "realistic." It's just a way to describe the style of the other games versus the cel-shading without having to say something like "the not cel-shaded version of zelda" or something along those lines. We don't need to delve into semantics here.

rpglover · « **Reply #97 on:** August 29, 2003, 04:13:45 PM »

"Gannon and Zelda weren't in Majora's Mask though"

technically you saw zelda in the game for about 5 seconds on the opening cinema- but that's just being picky

ILOVENINTENDO · « **Reply #98 on:** November 12, 2003, 07:26:53 AM »

In almoat every zelda game ganon should be gone forever but he always ends up coming back, as long as there is zelda and link ganon will always be around. besides, wind waker is after oot, and that is the first, if you where right then none of the other zelda games would have ever happened, because all the other games have to be after oot. if you dont know what your talking about, just dont write smart guy

The King of red Lions · « **Reply #99 on:** November 12, 2003, 02:55:13 PM »

I can't believe my topic has lasted this long!

Anyway, the topic I started arguing about in May was this......

If they were to Kill Ganon off in Wind Waker, he would not have been molded into stone. He would have broken into many pieces, signifying the breaking of his body, signifying his death.

BUT, He didn't. Nintendo chose not to destroy Ganon or the master sword ( It would've broken as well, as its purpose would've been completed ) . Instead, Nintendo chose to basically, chryogenically freeze Ganondorf and the master sword together, creating a bond. We have seen bonds like this before in Zelda games, and they can span multiple games, passing even to the next generation of systems.

This is definetly the case we have here, as Nintendo has 2 storylines to develop.
-The bond of Ganondorf/Master Sword + Hyrule
-Link and Tetra sailing off to a new land(kinda mirrors MM as Link goes off to another dimension)

-The latter plot we will see in Wind Waker 2, with maybe some foreshadowing of the return of Ganon
- On the N5, Hyrule will return in some way as the bond between sword and flesh is broken, somehow... someway.

To sum up, the Zelda of old is not gone, but has been stowed away nicely by nintendo until they see fit to release it.

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