Topic: New Super Mario Bros. Mii Is the Mario Bros. Wii U Game

[TalesOfFan]

The E3 2011 demo will be a full-fledged game that will be officially revealed at E3 2012.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/29838

E3 2011’s Mario Experience, otherwise known as New Super Mario Bros. Mii, looks to be the upcoming Mario Wii U title that Shigeru Miyamoto teased in a recent interview with the Spanish newspaper, El Mundo.

When asked to comment on Miyamoto’s remarks, a spokesperson for Nintendo of America replied with, “In a recent interview, Mr. Miyamoto confirmed that a new Super Mario Bros. game for the Wii U system will be shown at this year's E3 Expo. This is based on the Mario experience that was demonstrated at last year's E3 Expo. We'll have more to announce about our plans for the E3 Expo at a later date.�

New Super Mario Bros. Mii was shown as a tech demo for the Wii U during E3 2011. When shown, the game was very similar to its counterparts, New Super Mario Bros. and New Super Mario Bros. Wii; however, it included the use of Miis, as well as support for the Wii U’s tablet controller.

[Mop it up]

"Based on" may mean it could be a little different from what we saw, but who knows. I had always expected it would be something similar to the demo, since it seemed like more than just a concept demo.

[Ian Sane]

The concept demo seemed too generic and safe to convince me on a Wii U purchase.  And if Miis infecting the game is the big hook, well I might skip it even if I buy a Wii U for other reasons.

It always seemed unlikely for Nintendo to develop this demo as much as they did for it to not be a real title, especially since "it's Mario but with Miis" seems like EXACTLY what Nintendo would want to do.

[broodwars]

So where are all the people who shrieked all over the Wii U threads that the "New Super Mario Bros. Mii" game shown at E3 was "just a tech demo, not actual software"?  : : Well, if it's just going to be bland New Super Mario Bros. with Miis this time, I see no reason to pick it up even if I do get a Wii U.  When you combine "bland" (the New Super Mario Bros. level design and art style) with even more "bland" (the Miis), I don't see how you could possibly get "superb".

[GoldenPhoenix]

So where are all the people who shrieked all over the Wii U threads that the "New Super Mario Bros. Mii" game shown at E3 was "just a tech demo, not actual software"?  : Well, if it's just going to be bland New Super Mario Bros. with Miis this time, I see no reason to pick it up even if I do get a Wii U.  When you combine "bland" (the New Super Mario Bros. level design and art style" with even more "bland" (the Miis), I don't see how you could possibly get "superb".

Hate to say it, but I have to agree. My excitement for the game just dwindled to "Maybe I'll get it a year or two after it is released, used if I can find it cheap". Maybe Nintendo will still shock us with another Mario game, or it has changed so much that it is unrecognizable from the Wii U demo.

[NWR_Neal]

I have a good feeling that this game will have something else about it that is interesting to us. As it stands, though, it's just a side-scrolling Mario game, which is oddly not as exciting as it once was.

[MagicCow64]

Yeah, this is a buzz-kill. I think with the inclusion of the Miis and the dispiritingly bland art design, the "New" series falls out of the realm of the "real" Mario continuum and becomes something of a Mario Party-esque spin-off.

The trouble is they don't seem to be making "real" 2-D Mario games anymore . . .

[TJ Spyke]

Yeah, this is a buzz-kill. I think with the inclusion of the Miis and the dispiritingly bland art design, the "New" series falls out of the realm of the "real" Mario continuum and becomes something of a Mario Party-esque spin-off.

The trouble is they don't seem to be making "real" 2-D Mario games anymore . . .

The Mario games don't have a canon anyways, so the platformers really are on the same plane as the Mario Kart games (which have Miis).

[GoldenPhoenix]

Yeah, this is a buzz-kill. I think with the inclusion of the Miis and the dispiritingly bland art design, the "New" series falls out of the realm of the "real" Mario continuum and becomes something of a Mario Party-esque spin-off.

The trouble is they don't seem to be making "real" 2-D Mario games anymore . . .

Yeah, I would be extremely hyped for a "real" 2-D Mario game (if you are referencing the sprite based visuals and design). It is like the NSMB series has lost the diversity and unique style of the 2D Mario games from SNES and NES. Besides SMB2J, every Mario game has had a fresh visual look to it, with Yoshi's Island being one of the most unique.

[Adrock]

I'm kind of tired of New Super Mario Bros. It was cool as a throwback and update to the original Super Mario Bros. but after 2 games, it's run its course. I want to see Nintendo do something else with Mario in 2D. Miis aren't going to change that. I'd rather see Miis in a Mii Platforming game. I feel like Nintendo is severely limiting the potential for Miis by just sticking them in Mario games. Let Mario be Mario and let the Miis be Miis. The best part about the Miis is that player made them. I'm surprised Nintendo didn't come up with a similar concept to Little Big Planet first based around the Miis. It's kind of the next step and too obvious to have been overlooked. With the tablet controller and the stylus, a primarily user-generated game starring Miis on Wii U could be one of the coolest games ever.

[TrueNerd]

I'm assuming this will be a launch game. I mean, that makes sense. And isn't there also a new 2D Mario coming out for the 3DS this year? That seems like a lot of 2D Mario...

 

With the tablet controller and the stylus, a primarily user-generated game starring Miis on Wii U could be one of the coolest games ever.

Hopefully, this is where this game is going. Level editor/creator or GTFO NSMB Mii.

[nickmitch]

Yeah, Miis are probably the WORST hook they could come up with for another NSMB game. Galaxy 2 had Yoshi, which is a great hook. NSMBWii had four player and was a console game, good hooks. NSMBMii has. . .Miis. . .

[TJ Spyke]

And isn't there also a new 2D Mario coming out for the 3DS this year? That seems like a lot of 2D Mario...

Maybe, Iwata said by the end of March 2013.

[Nemo]

You know what would be an okay hook? Comes with the console for free.

[Adrock]

Would Nintendo really give a brand new Mario game away for free? I doubt it. They would likely mark up the console even more than they're probably already planning on doing. I don't think it's a bad idea to include a Mario game and even though I'd prefer Nintendo move in a different direction than New Super Mario Bros., I'd gladly take the game. I just wouldn't call it "free" by any means.

[Luigi Dude]

So where are all the people who shrieked all over the Wii U threads that the "New Super Mario Bros. Mii" game shown at E3 was "just a tech demo, not actual software"? : : : Well, if it's just going to be bland New Super Mario Bros. with Miis this time, I see no reason to pick it up even if I do get a Wii U.  When you combine "bland" (the New Super Mario Bros. level design and art style) with even more "bland" (the Miis), I don't see how you could possibly get "superb".

The E3 game was just a tech demo.  Like I've been saying a million f*cking times, the demo shown at E3 was going to eventually become a real game but what we saw wasn't the real game.  How f*cking difficult is this for some of you to understand?  Just because the game is based off the E3 demo doesn't mean it's going to look exactly like the E3 demo.

[Adrock]

Dude, you need like an ice cream cone and a balloon. Relax. If it's a New Super Mario Bros. game, it's probably going to look exactly like that demo. That's the style of the series. It's not set in stone but chances are that it'll look like a New Super Mario Bros. game if it's part of the same "New" series.

[TJ Spyke]

The E3 game was just a tech demo.

Maybe because on Nintendo's site they listed it as a game, while all of the other tech demos were listed as tech demos.

[GoldenPhoenix]

You know what would be an okay hook? Comes with the console for free.

If it is a pack in game, that would be fine. My fear is that if they do include it, the system will be more then the possible $300 price point and it will be used to justify a higher price (kind of like how the Wii was priced $50 more, give or take, from the Japanese price point which didn't include Wii Sports).

[Luigi Dude]

Dude, you need like an ice cream cone and a balloon. Relax. If it's a New Super Mario Bros. game, it's probably going to look exactly like that demo. That's the style of the series. It's not set in stone but chances are that it'll look like a New Super Mario Bros. game if it's part of the same "New" series.

Yes it'll have the same artstyle but graphically it'll look different.  Just like with NSMB DS and Wii, they both have the same artstyle but graphically NSMBW is a huge improvment over DS because it's on way more powerful hardware and as a result looks better then the DS game.  The demo shown at last years E3 was just NSMBW upscaled because Wii U hardware was still unfinished and so it was easier and cheaper to use the Wii engine to make a playable tech demo.

With the final game though, it'll be made on real Wii U hardware which will make it look graphically much better then the E3 2011 demo.  What about this is so hard for people to understand?

[MegaByte]

Last year's demo wasn't just NSMBW upscaled. It was already running at native HD resolution with higher-res models and completely new levels. Much like when NSMBW and SM3DL were shown at E3, I expect some of the levels we saw will make it into the final version. Yes, they could improve the graphics some, but I'm not expecting significant changes. Though I do hope we see some more interesting use of the Wii U functionality, it's hard to say what they'll do with this game since the demo's only official purpose was to show the game cloned onto the remote screen. From a practical standpoint, the NSMB series proved to Nintendo that they don't have to make drastic changes to and it's still guaranteed to fly off the shelves. Yeah, I wish they'd do more stylistically, but I don't mind too much as long as the levels are well-crafted. NSMBW had this, but NSMB did not.

[MagicCow64]

Last year's demo wasn't just NSMBW upscaled. It was already running at native HD resolution with higher-res models and completely new levels. Much like when NSMBW and SM3DL were shown at E3, I expect some of the levels we saw will make it into the final version. Yes, they could improve the graphics some, but I'm not expecting significant changes. Though I do hope we see some more interesting use of the Wii U functionality, it's hard to say what they'll do with this game since the demo's only official purpose was to show the game cloned onto the remote screen. From a practical standpoint, the NSMB series proved to Nintendo that they don't have to make drastic changes to and it's still guaranteed to fly off the shelves. Yeah, I wish they'd do more stylistically, but I don't mind too much as long as the levels are well-crafted. NSMBW had this, but NSMB did not.

That's a good point. I strongly disliked NSMB DS, but I had a good time with the Wii iteration. The level design made up for the art design. Something about it still didn't quite hit home all the way, though, and it feels like that was the part that will allow for the Mii integration. The co-op on the Wii game was fun and all, but it still worked as a single player game, and I fear that the Mii-ed up sequel will push the co-op angle too hard and make it moot as anything but a multi-player game (a la Four Swords). No one I know plays games to any real extent anymore, so if a game is multi-player oriented I'm SOL. (This is also why I don't give a **** about 90% of Xbox software).

[Evan_B]

A resounding "meh" from me. However, there's plenty that could make this game a good buy, or even better, a good pack-in. The ability to design and share levels and online co-op would make this game absolutely fantastic, and "World" DLC from Nintendo would add a lot. We could get a BUTTLOAD of content out of this game, but it all depends on how Nintendo swings it.
 
The Miis don't interest me, especially since good old 2 player co op is where it's at.

[famicomplicated]

Just a level pack with HD graphics and Mii's = the first mainline Mario game I won't buy since, ever.

Online co-op and/or custom levels = instabuy.

If it doesn't have custom levels or the option to download a new level every week, I mean what's the point?
People should check out the Reggie! editor and start making their own levels or just play the awesome level packs people have made already using it.

A sequel to NSMBW does exist, it's just not made by Nintendo, and it's free.

[ThomasO]

Online co-op and/or custom levels = instabuy.

The Wii U controller would actually be perfect for creating custom levels. It could be something akin to the Mario vs DK level editors on DS.