Topic: Nintendo Considering Wii U Rebrand?

[Adrock]

How am I trolling?

the Wii is a weak piece of casual bullshit.

You're on a Nintendo message board and all you do is trash Nintendo games and consoles. What ARE you even doing here? That's like going to a restaurant and moaning and groaning the whole time, "This is ****!" but continually going there everyday to register your displeasure. See, there's a difference between disliking something and trolling and you sir, are walking the line of trolling.

You keep pushing this "Wii = casual" rhetoric yet most of us on this message board have a much higher ratio of core games on it. Personally, I've only purchased 2 casual titles on the Wii: Wii Fit (which I eventually traded towards a PSP due to limited use) and Wii Play. The only game in the latter that I enjoyed was Tanks which, if you've ever played it, is anything but casual due to its slow build to "Oh, Jesus Christ, this is impossible." It's simplicity is deceiving.

Your explanation doesn't make sense because you're saying, "There is nothing at all 'super' about the Wii." Well, the Wii doesn't have to be super in this case. Wii U does if it were to be renamed to "Super Wii." It doesn't matter how weak Wii is because anything "on steroids" would conceivably be stronger hence "Super Wii." Your analogy doesn't work and you're just taking every opportunity to trash the Wii. You have an ax to grind. Understood. Can we move on?

[Stogi]

That explanation doesn't make sense. At this point, you're pretty much just trolling a Nintendo message board.

If anyone is trolling here it is Kytim because he keeps repeating the "super wii" thing over and over again. I was explaining to him why it doesn't work. How am I trolling? I stand by what I said and it does make sense.

No. No. It really doesn't.

[Kytim89]

Anyone is out of their mind to think that Nintendo is going to do away with th Wii name. It has made them way too much money to abandon. Therefore Nintendo will opt to create some better version of the Wii name and hence "Super Wii." Also, the fact that the Wii is looked upon as a purely casual game console is false. Some of the best games I ahve ever played were on the Wii and the Super Wii is only going to add to that awesomeness when I will be able to play all the third party games on it later this year.

[ThePerm]

U-NES

Unes get in here, the potatoes are boiling over!

though that could be made fun of as the un entertaining system

[Mop it up]

You can't make the Wii "super" any more than you can polish a turd. Its just not possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI

[Chozo Ghost]

You're on a Nintendo message board and all you do is trash Nintendo games and consoles. What ARE you even doing here?

I've been here since the Gamecube era. I only started complaining about the Wii because the fact is it sucks, and as a Nintendo fan I should complain because only by complaining will Nintendo ever possibly change back to the way it used to be. Yeah, I said the Wii is a weak piece of casual bullshit, but you know what? I meant it too. If I was trolling I would say stuff I didn't mean just to piss people off and laugh as they respond in anger. But I'm not saying this to piss people off. I'm saying it because its what I mean and its a fact.

BTW, someone with a pedo bear avatar has no right to hurl accusations of trolling against anyone, imho.

[Adrock]

BTW, someone with a pedo bear avatar has no right to hurl accusations of trolling against anyone, imho.

Yeah, that doesn't make sense either. Keep smiting me if it makes you feel better but clearly, I'm not the only person who feels this way about your posts.

Nintendo isn't going the change back. They have found a business model that works and they've been making more core games than ever have whereas the business model you so dearly cling to (pre-Wii) was losing them market share every year. If they didn't do what they did, eventually there would be no Nintendo.

Also, you're complaining on a message board that Nintendo doesn't own or operate. You're not accomplishing anything.

[Chozo Ghost]

I'm not the only person who feels this way about your posts.

A lot of people disagree with me and that's perfectly fine, but you're the only one who takes it a step further and accuse me of trolling just because you don't like what I have to say.

Nintendo isn't going the change back.

Maybe they will when the discover the casual market has moved on to Kinect or iOS or whatever and all they have left are the loyal diehard hardcore fans. Maybe then they will change their tune and realize which market really matters and which market they shouldn't have been neglecting.

They had a lot of financial success with the Wii. Fine. But guess what? The Wii's 15 minutes of fame are over. Now the free ride is over and now Nintendo has to put some effort into it. If they don't the WiiU will bomb.

[NWR_insanolord]

There is no "change" or "change back." Nintendo is the same Nintendo they've always been, for better or worse.

[Stogi]

If they don't the WiiU will bomb.

And then Nintendo will ask:

"Why oh why did we not listen to Chozo Ghost?! His incoherent ramblings, finger murmurs and even parts of his brains puke were splattered all over our eyeballs and reason centers. Why oh why did we ask for a handi-wipe?!"

[oohhboy]

NWR: We Bitch here.

[Chozo Ghost]

If they don't the WiiU will bomb.

And then Nintendo will ask:

"Why oh why did we not listen to Chozo Ghost?! His incoherent ramblings, finger murmurs and even parts of his brains puke were splattered all over our eyeballs and reason centers. Why oh why did we ask for a handi-wipe?!"

Well, I'm not the only one complaining. Even on this site I'm not the only one complaining, so who knows how many more are out there in the general population? Surely Reggie and Iwata receive lots of letters and other feedback from fans, so they have to know there is some dissatisfaction.

[UncleBob]

I'm saying it because its what I mean and its a fact.

Go here.  When you beat the game, come back and fix your previous post.  kthxbie

[nickmitch]

There is no "change" or "change back." Nintendo is the same Nintendo they've always been, for better or worse.

I would say they're more sensitive to investor demands these days, but other than that you're right.

[NWR_insanolord]

I think that's more due to increased scrutiny and higher expectations from the shareholders brought on by the massive success of the DS and Wii than because of any real change in the company.

[broodwars]

When it comes to renaming the Wii U, my big question would be just what audience is Nintendo trying to get?  If last year's E3 and their push for core-oriented 3rd party games is any indication, you'd think they were aiming for the core audience with the Wii U.  But to the core audience, the Wii is not generally considered a favorable brand.  If Nintendo's aiming for the casuals again, the Wii branding probably doesn't hurt the console (hey, if they didn't find the name "Wii" stupid, chances are good that "Wii U" doesn't bother them that much) and Nintendo probably has to stay with the branding.

It's all a question of what Nintendo wants to get from this console.  Right now, they seem to want it both ways, and I don't think that split focus will serve either audience well if the Wii's lifespan is any indication.

[Stogi]

I don't think the name matters at all for core gamers. They'll play it regardless if it's called *Racist* *Sexist* *Homophobic* * Expletive deleted* BOX (actually they'd prolly play it more). All that matters is if third parties care.

[broodwars]

I don't think the name matters at all for core gamers. They'll play it regardless if it's called *Racist* *Sexist* *Homophobic* * Expletive deleted* BOX (actually they'd prolly play it more). All that matters is if third parties care.

Now that was uncalled for.  Just because people like playing a variety of games (including more complex ones) for longer than an hour or two a day, that does not necessarily make them the crass FPS stereotype.

[NWR_insanolord]

It's all a question of what Nintendo wants to get from this console.  Right now, they seem to want it both ways, and I don't think that split focus will serve either audience well if the Wii's lifespan is any indication.

If they get the third party support they seem to be working hard to get it might work this time. Nintendo just can't do everything by themselves; they need real support from other developers, which, as much as I like the dozens of third party Wii games I own, they did not have last time around.

[Stogi]

I don't think the name matters at all for core gamers. They'll play it regardless if it's called *Racist* *Sexist* *Homophobic* * Expletive deleted* BOX (actually they'd prolly play it more). All that matters is if third parties care.

Now that was uncalled for.

heh...now it kinda was.

[Chozo Ghost]

I'm saying it because its what I mean and its a fact.

Go here.  When you beat the game, come back and fix your previous post.  kthxbie

Someone saying the Wii brand name is lame is an opinion, but it is the opinion of a lot of people. Does that make it a fact? No. But what is a fact is that the WiiU (or whatever it finally ends up being called) has less chances of winning over hardcore gamers by keeping the Wii brand name. There are some people who like the Wii name and a lot of people who are just indifferent to it, but there are also a lot of people who hate it. That's a fact.

[Caterkiller]

I doubt the Wii name is going to mean much in the grand scheme. If anything I think it's the name Nintendo that every gaming site/magazine/hard core loser rags on. At worst Wii U will confuse people who are not like us sitting in forums half their lives.

The fact is the loser core know Wii = Nintendo, so it doesn't mean squat in the end. If the Wii U has great 3rd party games starting off people will notice and the name will mean nothing. The PlayStation name was gold in writing, who would have thought Sony would have taken such a hit after the PS2? Even now with the Vita the PS name is not helping one bit, and you know what else, the name isn't hurting it either. No one wanted a mutha fletchin $600 console. Sony offered something and people didn't want it for a long while.

If the Wii U starts of with strong support and a reasonable price people will buy. And the name will have absolutely zero affect on the core losers out there, me and you included.

[ControlerFleX]

The claws is OUT!!!

But seriously.

A name change will help us(core gamers) feel better about the purchase we ALREADY know we're going to make, additionally it helps us In conversation when Praiseing our beloved Nintendo exclusives.

Keeping Wii "something" in the name would also keep its broad appeal. A goof number of people that got the Wii by chance barley correlates Wii with Nintendo itself, like Stogi said, the core gamer will already know that the timeless Nintendo franchises will b on the system no matter what it's called.

I'm a complainer, cause I'm disappointed in what some of the choices that Nintendo made for the Wii BUT I understand. Their sales numbers are the opposite of SUCKS. like it for what it Nintendoes, hate it for what it Nintendon't. But know that you can't come to NWR, and BASH Nintendo.

[Adrock]

If you know you're going to buy it, why do you need to feel better about it? Seems unnecessary. Does one really need to be coddled when making an electronics purchase?

[Ian Sane]

How about just "U"?  Drop the "Wii" part.  That suggests a continuation of the Wii naming convention while not being so associated with the Wii to turn off the core.