Topic: The Next Xbox Is Only 20% More Powerful Than Wii U

[Patchkid15]

Nintendo won't be technologically behind this upcoming generation.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumor/29074

The Wii U will almost be as powerful as the next generation of Xbox, according to an IGN source.

The source claims that the next generation of Xbox will utilize a graphics processor that will provide 6 times the processing power of that of the Xbox 360. Compared to the Wii U, however, the new Xbox will only be 20% more powerful. This seems to point out that Nintendo is again going to provide us a system that isn't far off from its competition, much like the GameCube was in the previous generation. The gap between Nintendo's current system, The Wii, and other systems was quite large.

The Wii U is expected to make one final appearance at E3 2012 before the rumored fall 2012 launch. The next generation of Xbox is expected to launch in fall of 2013.

[syrindigo]

Power without innovation is nothing.... Nintendo is going to be just fine...

[Enner]

Ah, the processing power rumors. It begins in earnest.


I don't quite know what a 20% gap will look, sound, feel, or play like for the next generation. If anything, I'm guessing this means that Microsoft and Nintendo are looking for a sub $300-350 price for the next boxes.

[Chozo Ghost]

But the NeXbox420 hasn't been finalized, has it? Remember how the Wii U kept evolving and getting better since we first heard about it? Maybe the NeXbox420 is still evolving and improving as well. As it exists now it may only be 20% more powerful, but perhaps a year from now when it gets finalized it might be like 50% more powerful or something?

Then there is also the PS4 left to worry about.

[Kytim89]

I said this onthe PS4 thread, but I think Sony will have the weakest of the three next gen consoles because they were always the most successful when they had the weakest console like the PS 1 and 2. This time around, Microsofot will have the most powerful of the three and Nintendo will be in a close second to Microsoft with the Wii U.

[Chozo Ghost]

I said this onthe PS4 thread, but I think Sony will have the weakest of the three next gen consoles because they were always the most successful when they had the weakest console like the PS 1 and 2. This time around, Microsofot will have the most powerful of the three and Nintendo will be in a close second to Microsoft with the Wii U.

The PS1 and PS2 weren't the most successful because they were the weakest hardware. They were the most successful because they had the most 3rd party support, which they got by default in those respective generations because Nintendo and Sega dropped the ball. In fact, the PS1 and PS2 weren't even the weakest hardware. Remember the Dreamcast? The Dreamcast was the first console of the 6th generation and it was the weakest. So if being the weakest console had anything to do with a console's success then by that logic the Dreamcast should have been the number 1 console, but that wasn't the case.

And as for the PS1, I'm not sure it was the weakest system then either. The Sega Saturn might have been weaker in some respects, and there was also other consoles of that generation such as the 3DO and Jaguar which may have been weaker too, but I'm not certain on that. But the point is how weak or strong a console is isn't really the most important factor. Software support is probably the biggest thing.

Being first on the market and getting a head start is also an important factor. Since it looks like the PS4 is going to be the last one on the market there's a good chance they will too far behind to ever catch up to the Wii U or the NeXbox420. I do think they will be the most powerful though, which is the advantage they get by having an extra year to develop and finalize the technology of their system. Being the most powerful system probably won't be enough to overcome the disadvantage of being last to launch, but it is certainly better than suffering the double whammy of both being the last and the weakest.

[NintendoFanboy]

Sony advertised, the PS3 as being twice the power of the XBOX360 (numbers
crunching wise) when they announced it.
We know sony lies about their hardware to build hype, but look at the difference.
really unless its side by side, you really see no difference.
the PS3 and 360 made such a leep last gen, there is only so far affordable hardware
will take you.
If they can avoid the problems of the gamecube
1. storage(disc) size was 1/5 the others
2. Ram was way less 24mb as compared to PS2 40mb and XBX 64mb
3. controler cant do what the others can
Then Nintendo will be fine.
Then they will be fine

[the asylum]

Lets hope that Nintendo doesn't end up doing what the 360 did- spinning the disc at such a stupidly high speed that made it sound like it was preparing for liftoff.

You need an analogy for how idiotic it is? Imagine trying to suck a wheelbarrow full of molasses up through a common drinking straw.

[TJ Spyke]

Microsoft caught on though, the re-modeled systems are better and the Xbox 360 is not that loud anymore. The PlayStation 3 is still really loud though.

[Chocobo_Rider]

Wrong! It will be 21.24% more powerful ... also it will double as a floatation device.

In other words, I'll believe it when the side-by-side game videos come out and not until then.  That said, it would be wonderful if a Nintendo platform got fair effort from third parties again.

[BranDonk Kong]

The funny thing is that the GameCube was arguably every bit as powerful as the Xbox (aside from no hard drive and no shaders), if not more than.

[MegaByte]

2. Ram was way less 24mb as compared to PS2 40mb and XBX 64mb

This part is wrong. GC had 24+16=40 and PS2 had 32. (Not including framebuffer).

[Chozo Ghost]

2. Ram was way less 24mb as compared to PS2 40mb and XBX 64mb

This part is wrong. GC had 24+16=40 and PS2 had 32. (Not including framebuffer).

He was also wrong about the controller. The only thing I can think of that the GC controller couldn't do was the clickable analog sticks, but that's not a huge deal.

[MegaByte]

The lack of L2 and diamond button configuration was a sticking point for some developers.

[Sarail]

Also, in terms of graphics processors, the ol' Cube had the most powerful of that console generation. The only area the Xbox excelled at over the others was its CPU -- it was definitely much faster than the Cube's.

[MegaByte]

Not really, Xbox edged out GC in graphics too, but just barely.

[Kytim89]

Supposesdly the newer Xbox system is going to reject used games ad might use Blu Ray:
 
http://kotaku.com/5879202/sources-the-next-xbox-will-play-blu+ray-may-not-play-used-games-and-will-introduce-kinect-2
 

It's not clear if that means that the system wouldn't play used games or how such a set-up would work. Obvious approachesā€”I'm theorizing hereā€”like linking a copy of a game to a specific Xbox Live account could seemingly be foiled by used-game owners who would keep their system offline. My source wasn't sure how Microsoft intended to implement any anti-used game system in the new machine.
A push in any way by Microsoft against used games would likely be cheered from publishers sick of seeing retailers like GameStop crow about their revenues from the sale of used games. But it could potentially anger consumers who rely on buying cheaply-sold used games or even pass games to relatives or friends.

 
Microsft would shoot itself in the foot by adopting anti-used game measures for their next system. Also, I do not see them adopting Blu Ray because of Sony. They will simply opt for something propriatary instead, which would most likely be similar to what Nintendo is doing with the Wii U's game discs.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Sony doesn't own Bluray and Nintendo didn't go proprietary because Sony is involved with BRD, they did it because they don't want to pay the royalty for it's use when initially only a very small percentage of people would even use it if any at all. (Also because the CAV system they use for data reading from the disc doesn't work so well on the drive when trying to watch movies)

If MS wants the living box and thinks a Bluray player adds value to their sales pitch, then they will use Bluray, or maybe they will do like they did with the original Xbox (& like we are all hoping Nintendo will do for the Wii U) and put the license in the market so the user can purchase the ability to play Bluray should they choose to use it.

[TJ Spyke]

Sony is the major play in Blu-ray, and make money every time someone buys a Blu-ray Disc or player. So if Xbox 3 used BD-ROMS, then Sony would make money every times a game was bought on it.

[Adrock]

Sony also makes laptops with Windows. Despite conflicting interests, most companies use the technology of competitors in their own products. If the next Xbox includes Blu Ray, Microsoft is probably just trying to match Sony feature for feature.

[TJ Spyke]

Sony has no real choice with Windows. What else would they use? Safari? Not likely. Chrome OS? Pretty much a failure. Linux? Not mainstream. They don't really have a choice but to use Windows. Microsoft could follow Nintendo's lead and make a proprietary version of Blu-ray.

[Chozo Ghost]

Sony has no real choice with Windows. What else would they use? Safari? Not likely. Chrome OS? Pretty much a failure. Linux? Not mainstream.

What about Android? Is that mainstream enough for you? Plenty of devices do use it. But it should be noted Android is based on Linux and uses the Linux kernel. So technically it is Linux, and the funny thing is many people who whine about Linux are actually using it everyday and don't even realize it.

[Adrock]

He meant in terms of PCs. Either way, that wasn't really the point...

[Chozo Ghost]

He meant in terms of PCs.

So did I. Android is an operating system which Sony could preinstall on their PCs.

[TJ Spyke]

Android is a mobile OS for smartphones and tablets and is designed that way by Google, it is not designed to by used in PC's and would have to have a complete overhaul (which I don't see Google wanting to do) to work on them.