Topic: PlayStation4 - News/Rumor/Speculation - Over 1 Million Sold on Day 1

[Stogi]

The only real-time footage was a face.

Oh and Killzone and the myst and watchdogs. And watch dogs looked the most fun.

Graphics fail.

[NeoStar9X]

Going to rewatch the presentation and see if I feel differently. It's already archived on twitch.

http://www.twitch.tv/playstation

[ejamer]

Well, some cool features... sadly tempered by some WTF at the same time.  That said, I always try to take these things with a grain of salt. Pre-release hype doesn't always look so hot when reality hits. (Don't have to go back to PS3 pre-release announcements to see this. Just think about Aliens: Colonial Marines getting hype right up until release.)


Shame Sony aren't willing to announce the pricing yet, but that would almost certainly deflate some of the excitement from the event. Maybe at E3?

[alegoicoe]

Did anyone catch a glimpse of Wii music for PS4?

[broodwars]

I need to rewatch the presentation when it becomes downloadable off GT or something, because I got called away during the driving game and didn't get back until Square-Enix stepped up on stage for a grand total of 5 seconds.

Overall, I'm very wary about this console. It sounds like everything I don't WANT in a gaming experience: constantly online, constantly linking you with other people you don't want.  Add backwards compatibility apparently only via Gaikai Onlive-style streaming and the total lack of firm details about the non-spec aspects of the hardware or OS, and you have a console I'm not sure I actually want.  Streaming trials for every PS4 game is a great idea, though.

On the other hand, the games looked rather promising.  Knack looked like a potentially-cool Ratchet & Clank-style cartoony brawler.  The new Killzone looks like it's taking a page from Crysis with some huge environments and very shiny models.  The new Infamous will probably be pretty decent as well since it's Sucker Punch.  As for the rest, I either haven't seen the footage yet or I'm very "meh" on it.  Giving Jonathan Blow any time whatsoever was a terrible idea, and following him up with the equally pretentious David Cage won't do me any favors on the replay either.

Like I said, though, I saw this conference in bits and pieces. I need to rewatch it as a continuous presentation to get a real sense of it and judge Sony accordingly.

Fun fact: did you know Twitter has a daily Tweet cap? I didn't until today.

[TJ Spyke]

Tweet cap? How often do you tweet? Because I see people literally tweet more than 40 times a day (which is absurdly high), so the ap must be really high.

[broodwars]

Tweet cap? How often do you tweet? Because I see people literally tweet more than 40 times a day (which is absurdly high), so the ap must be really high.

I was pretty much live-tweeting my reactions to the Sony Conference. Apparently, my snarkiness hit the 250 tweet cap I didn't know existed. 

[BlackNMild2k1]

I hear PS4 has 8GB of GDDR5....

wouldn't that be pretty damn expensive!?
$599 US DOLLARS again!?

[nickmitch]

Yeah, most of my friends call it "Twitter Jail." It's in there to deter spam bots/annoying people (annoying to Twitter's servers).

[Spak-Spang]

Umm, I don't see what is to complain about too much.

I am sure the social features can be turned off.  But, maybe they can't.  Only when we know you can't opt out does it become a problem. 

Also always online is something that all systems are striving for.  Heck, the Wii strived for always online.  It is what is done with always online that is the issue, and again we don't know what can and can't be opted out of.

Now the specs sound really nice 8 Gigs of Ram will allow for developers to push the boundaries some.  Yes, it is probably not going to be much better than the best high end PC game...but this next generation is not going to be just about graphics.  I think graphics and gaming are about to hit a plateau.  So what you really want to do is see if the system is going to be future proof for a while...and I would say yes it will.

I am mostly disappointed they didn't show the controller off yet.  That is what Sony really could have done to say hey this is a new system...look at the new way you can play.

[nickmitch]

I'm pretty sure all that RAM has to be goings towards all the crap you're supposed to do with the system. Play a game while it's downloading, while you're live streaming the play though, while your buddy is taking over for you from his house, while you update your facebook.

[Stogi]

My review.

What I did like:

The fact that you can share anything at anytime. I can see myself using that a lot in racing and fighting games.

It's a beast of a machine, making it yet another affordable (in time) super entertainment computer (especially when hacked).

The Move. It'll be interesting to see how it actually works, but creating sculptures and ceramics has always interested me. I have a sneaking suspicion that it won't work well though.

What I don't like:

The controller. Just because I'm use to it doesn't make it good. Make it bigger and more comfortable to hold. And the touch pad just seems useless. I don't have a vita but the only original game I saw was one that used the touch pad to literally plunge your finger into the game. But the PS4 controller has it's touch pad in the front, so that game isn't even possible. I guess if you wanted to scroll through a web page or something.

How almost every game shown either dwelled in realism or magic or both. Seriously, I know your a game designer but how fucking nerdy can you get? Cool doesn't mean power, cool means interesting. And the most interesting new game they showed was Knack. I hope that turns out well.

The new engine talk. Just sounds like dick comparisons.

And lastly, how no new game types were shown. Nothing that was shown off couldn't have been done on the PS3. Absolutely nothing. That's just....just weak.

[EasyCure]

I am mostly disappointed they didn't show the controller off yet.  That is what Sony really could have done to say hey this is a new system...look at the new way you can play.

new way to play? color me excited!

How almost every game shown either dwelled in realism or magic or both. Seriously, I know your a game designer but how fucking nerdy can you get? Cool doesn't mean power, cool means interesting. And the most interesting new game they showed was Knack. I hope that turns out well.

when were game devs ever considered cool?

[Spak-Spang]

Wait...did they show off the controller and I missed it?

[NWR_insanolord]

The controller is the one that leaked last week. They showed at least enough to confirm that.

[ShyGuy]

I hear PS4 has 8GB of GDDR5....

wouldn't that be pretty damn expensive!?
$599 US DOLLARS again!?

Yeah that seems excessive. All the community features don't need GDDR5. I wonder if 4gb of the RAM is DDR3.

[Spak-Spang]

Ok.  They did show the controller.  Nevermind.  There is absolutely now new way to play with that controller.  The Touch control area seams completely useless in that position unless they make a game that only uses it...because it is really outta reach for quickly moving to it and back to normal buttons. 

However, the controller being able to be used with the Eye Camera as a move controller may be useful for waggle controls, which we all love.

Ok, well so far Nintendo is the only one trying to innovate with new control and play methods, however if you want raw power the PS4 is definitely more powerful than the WiiU.  Probably 2X as powerful, which in the end, isn't that big of a deal for Nintendo I think.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Playstation 4 Specs

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130221a_e.pdf


Dual Shock 4/PS4 Eye Specs

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130221b_e.pdf


Dual Shock 4



Suspend/Resume



Developers/Publishers



Background Downloading (& predictive d/l from the SonyStore)
BC through Gaikai Streaming
Connectivity to Vita, Smartphone & tablets
Remote play


Games: http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130221c_e.pdf
Knack: http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/coeidy/knack-ps4-debut-trailer--stream-
Deep Down: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d9UmHm9HA3c
Destiny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kJkiwDeWqQ&feature=youtu.be
Infamous: Second Son: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGnJCxrXeOc
Killzone 4: Shadow Fall: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sXS5zYLsupw&hd=1
DriveClub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u541wKmf0UU
The Witness
Watchdogs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6LZM3_wp2ps
Diablo III


Holiday 2013


Is there anything else to add?
(i'm playing catch up here)

[Stogi]

when were game devs ever considered cool?

That's not what I meant. They are always trying to make something cool, like an alchemist trying to make gold. But most of them just have boners for dragons, super human abilities, and guns. Cool isn't power, cool is interesting. They don't understand that.

Even if I was just hung on super human abilities, I would go a complete opposite direction


SPAK: You gave me an idea. I bet you could use the track pad to control the in game camera. That could potentially be interesting.

[NeoStar9X]

Watching more (http://www.twitch.tv/ignlive/b/369515545) now and got ahead of myself before about the presentation. Back in a good place after calming down. haha

[azeke]

Just finished it.

It was okay, i guess.

Nothing really amazing though.

I liked Watch Dogs footage. They re-used the same location as in last E3 but they managed to convince premise goes beyond that just hacking gimmick.

Agni's Philosophy trailer was pretty good too. Interesting setting -- some medieval looking magii, brasilian crime ridden favelas and glimpse of futuristic city.

Everything else -- ehh.

[ShyGuy]

Knack looked like this gens Kameo.  I guess the RAM is all GDDR5, which is Krazy!

[SixthAngel]

Can't say I got excited or surprised at all.  The most interesting game is Watchdogs and its coming to WiiU and every other system under the sun.
Most everything looked nice but nothing that would actually get me excited, just the exact same stuff we have now but slightly shinier. Even the "quirky" game they showed looks bad.  Its a cell shaded Myst except pretty much every single puzzle of the dozens they showed looked to use the same mechanic and its even coming to pc.

None of these games are coming out near release with the unlikely exception of Watchdogs which also releases on current systems.  Unless they've have some kind of big reveals for the future people who thought Nintendo's launch was sparse ain't seen nothing yet.  Third parties aren't going to be releasing games near launch that aren't cross gen ports since the expense would pretty much bankrupt them.

[Kytim89]

The bottom line is can the Wii U can toe-to-toe with the PS4?

[Ymeegod]

There was some gameplay screenshots anyhow--the car demo and Capcom's Dragon beast thing did show signs of a hud.  But yeah, I'm not falling for "kllzone" in game trailer again (cough Killzone 2/E3 show cough).

And I dont' think Sony stated it was 8GB of DDR5--people assume that but I think the official word was "fast memory" which could be just DDR3.  Or they could even have another mixed configuration.

Not loving the whole game-touch-pad thing or the whole kinect copy/move stuff.  Rather keep the price low and dropped those "features" altogether. 

Happy about hearing about "crossplay" with the vita--now we have to see if Sony can make it happen.

No price point--I'm guessing we won't hear anything official until fall --I'm expecting at least $400 with maybe a crappy tossaway game bundled with it.