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Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2010, 11:53:18 AM »
He was just trying to show what would happen if you ate only at McDonald's for all of your food for 30 days. We already know it's fact that eating a lot of fast food is bad for you, he was just showing how bad it can be. Besides, he never said his results would be the exact same for everyone. It's like alcohol, some people get drunk after 1 drink while others can have like 10 drinks and not act drunk. As for what's the unhealthiest item, it depends on how you want to look at it. The 32 ounce Chocolate Triple Thick Shake has the most calories at 1160. Most sodium belongs to the Angus Steak & Cheese at 2070 milligrams (although the Big Breakfast with Hotcakes Large Biscuit has 2260 milligrams). The McSkillet Burrito with Sausage has the most cholesterol at 410 milligrams.

The movie did help make the McDonald's menu a little healthier (although McDonald's denied it). A few weeks after the movie was released they announced several changes to make healthier options. The point of the movie wasn't even specifically about McDonald's (he picked it because it's the most popular one (83 stores in Manhattan alone, including some that actually deliver), it was about how unhealthy a fast food diet is and how partially to blame fast food places are. For example, the standard order of fries when they started in 1955 are now the size used for Happy Meals.

Besides, my whole point was about what happened when he put various McDonald's food items in containers to see what happened over time. After 10 weeks, all of the food was moldy or decomposed except for the fries. The fries still looked the same, Morgan said he would have kept them to see how long that lasted except one of the interns at his company threw them away along with the sandwiches (because they were starting to smell really bad and they worked in that office).
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Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2010, 12:15:07 PM »
My brother did the perfect test to see if Super Size Me was full of ****.  Back when he still lived at home our parents and I went on vacation for three weeks while he was left at home by himself.  He had relied largely on Mom making his meals so he got fast good for lunch and dinner literally EVERY SINGLE DAY.  21 days of eating deep fried fast food twice a day.  And he was fine while the Super Size Me guy was acting like it was killing him.

Now my brother wasn't ordering shakes or any kind of dessert and he rarely super-sizes a meal and usually gets Diet Coke as the drink.  But still that was his diet for a good period of time and it had no noticable affect on his health.  He does exercise regularly so it isn't the same as some couch potato.  And I would never recommend following such a diet in the long term but then I would never suggest someone eat nothing but hamburgers or fries no matter how they were made nor would I suggest eating every meal at a restaurant nor would I suggest having the exact same thing for every meal.  There is a certain amount of common sense here.

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Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2010, 12:42:06 PM »
And he was fine while the Super Size Me guy was acting like it was killing him.

As you even admitted in your post, your brother did a lot of things differently. First, your brother exercised. Morgan wanted to be like the average person (the average person doesn't exercise) plus he limited himself to 5,000 steps a day since that is the average amount people walk. He made sure to have everything on the menu. Morgan made sure to only super size if he was asked by the cashier. If your brother had kept up that diet, it would eventually had very serious effects on him too.

Morgan shows that the problem is bigger than just fast food, he went to a middle school and saw that many of the students were only eating junk food, then he went to a school for troubled students (i.e. those kicked out from other schools) and saw that they were being fed healthier food. Other stuff included adults knowing the Big Mac jingle by heart but not knowing the words to the Pledge of Allegiance.

To try and get back on topic, I have never had a McRib before but I may try one eventually.
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Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2010, 01:37:19 PM »
Another thing about the Super Size Me guy (one more off topic post) is that he rarely if ever ate fast food before the diet change. On the third day he puked as his body acclimated to the higher sugar and fat content. Your brother more than likely was already used to eating that type of food. And he wasn't 'acting' like it was killing him. Doctors taking care of him measured the effects of the diet on his body, and had he continued he would have died of liver failure.

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« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2010, 02:08:20 PM »
TJ Spyke's post here.

McDonalds claims that the menu was in the works during the film's development.  It's conceivable, but by no means provable that the menu was going to change regardless of Spurlock's movie.  McDonalds did deny it.  It's their word versus yours, essentially.  I'm not going to try to determine how long it takes a food item to be conceived, then placed on menus nationwide at a large chain.  I will note, though, that my town was a test-market for Hardee's Thickburger sandwiches back before they were all over the place.  Those things were probably around at least half a year, if not more, before they were placed on the menu permanently.  Don't believe restaurant menus for places like McDonalds are taken lightly and modified on whims.

Additionally, the other items you quote weren't on the menu at the time Super Size Me was filmed.  The milkshake was, the rest weren't, at least not nationwide.

As far as fries go, I would imagine this would be the result for a number of salty foods.  While I've done absolutely no research, I do know that osmosis takes place, and salt on the outside of the fry would result in the fry drying out much more rapidly than anything else placed in containers, which potentially means most moisture could've left before the fries were enclosed.  Of course, Spurlock and his crew didn't do any actual research or testing either, so I suppose I might be as much of an authority on the matter of what happens to fries over a few weeks as he is.

I honestly don't recall that part of the movie, though.  I'm really surprised to hear that something enclosed in a container could be smelt.  I would think the purpose of the container would be to keep the contents closed, air-tight, to show what happens to them over time.  If the food smelled bad, then that means the containers weren't air-tight.  If the containers weren't air-tight, given what a few recent things have shown, the food (at least the smaller burgers, and definitely the fries), should not have grown mold or anything, and instead should have stayed well preserved.  That's what those foods would typically do, at least according to light research I've read over the hubbub of that woman and her McDonalds "experiment."  Did Spurlock or the movie say the conditions under which the food was kept?  If he suggested they were sealed, but were later thrown out because of scent, then they weren't sealed.  I'm a little confused as to what you're suggesting he's suggesting, regardless.

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Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2010, 02:18:40 PM »
I don't think the point is that if you eat nothing but McDonald's for every meal for a month you'll die, the point is, if you eat it once or twice a week, for your entire life, you will die.

Smelt is a type of fish by the way. Also, the fries are packed full of grease, the salt isn't going to suck that all out. You can do the same experiment if you want, but get the fries unsalted.
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« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2010, 02:39:30 PM »
If you do anything for your entire life, you'll die.  If you... don't do anything for your entire life... you'll die.  I'd edit out the "smelt" in my post above, but now I feel obliged to be corrected.

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« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2010, 02:55:35 PM »
above is the message of "the ice harvest", which was a great movie

as for fries...Wendy's has a pretty good drainage system. The fryer(person) is supposed to let the grease drain back into the fryer for like 10 seconds. Then hoist the frys into the fry pan, which itself has a draining system. Added Salt, because salt binds to grease molecules making them not grease molecules. I doubt the changed molecules are any healthier for you.
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« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2010, 03:32:19 PM »
Wendy's fries taste like ****. Even if you get them fresh and add salt, they taste like they've been sitting on the counter for 6 hours and the salt just vanishes.
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« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2010, 03:57:03 PM »
wtf? before they are fried they are just chopped up potatoes. Nothing added to them.

ok lemme explain how they are made.

The fries are kept in a fridge room until a couple hours before they are going to be used. At which time they are just put in a smaller refridgerator close to the fryer. The maximum they are allowed to be kept in this fridge is like 4 hours. The mini fridge is not supposed to be overpacked, because if it is, than the fries start to get soggy, which is bad and will ruin them. When the fries are supposed to be cooked. They are stored in sealed paper bags. So when you go to fry them you pour a quarter of a bag into the fryer. You drop them for 3 minutes and 30 seconds. Once they are pulled out they should be a nice golden color. Let the cage drain for 10-15 seconds. When that is done, you hoist the frys into the fry bin. Proceed to salt evenly. Turn on the timer. IF the frys are still there in 15 minutes throw them in the garbage. Thats the policy, that is how I used to do it. Likely, your getting fries from some shitty noob, who is cutting corners and making Dave Thomas roll in his grave.
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Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2010, 04:43:11 PM »
The thing is that Super Size Me had a big effect on the public's perception of fast food and if someone is giving you this big ass lecture about how much of an idiot you are for eating it they'll point to that film.  But the film is misleading which makes the lecture all the more annoying.

You should not eat nothing but fast food.  You should not do no excercise.  That's obvious.  I didn't need a movie to tell me that.  But that's extreme negligence towards one's health.  Regular people should not get talked down to every time they go to McDonald's by annoying know-it-alls because of it.

Though I think things are a bit different in the States.  You guys have much larger super sizes for example.  Our medium is your small and your large is not available in any form here.  There is the stereotype that Americans are big fatsos and, well, us Canadians always notice it when we travel there.  I go into Carl's Jr. during busy hours and there is always at least one incredibly obese person eating there.  That is a rare sighting at home.  I see chubby people all the time but a really obese person is a rare sighting.  When I go to America it's like a given that I will see such a person.  I go into Wal-Mart or Fred Meyer and the place will be crawling with them.  Here in BC Wal-Mart is full of very normal looking people of average health.

It feels very much like fast food or snacks like chips and chocolate bars are under attack.  It's become a popular political topic to suggest bans or stricter health restrictions or taxes for junk food.  I like that stuff.  Any normal person likes that stuff.  So this anti-junk food idealogy seems very anti-fun to me.  But we don't have a culture of obeseity here and there's something going down in the States that makes it different.  Just like how most people can drink and not be an alcoholic, most people can eat junk food or fast food and not be an obese person with serious health issues.  That's what really bugs me about all this.  Regular folks should not be punished or harrassed because some people have serious problems.

I always hear about needing to ban junk food vending machines in the schools.  I had vending machines at my school and maybe 1 in 30 kids was fat.  So if you're having a problem with childhood obeseity maybe you should look more into it and not assume that the mere presence of junk food is destroying society.

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Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2010, 06:28:01 PM »
HOLY SMOKES! Are you guys for real!? McDonald's burgers don't age! I bet they could survive the vacuum of space! A super armor that can be used as a super weapon! They could so easily sell a yucky 3 year old patty!

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Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2010, 08:10:20 PM »
The problem people are having is the patronizing from the know-it-alls.

The problem here, is gluttony and sloth. Its bad being a glutton, and its bad being a sloth, but if your both than thats just disgusting.



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« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2010, 08:39:59 PM »
You don't need to explain how Wendy's makes their fries, and I know how to make them myself. I'm just saying, every time I've had them, they tasted like ****, at every Wendy's I've ever been too. I know they're just potatoes, but it seems like they just use some kind of shitty oil, and the salt they use always seemed to be granulated much finer than any kind at any other restaurant and for some reason just doesn't enhance the flavor like it's supposed to. Every time I've had to eat Wendy's I always get a thing of ketchup and add salt and pepper to it so I can get some kind of flavor in there.
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Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2010, 09:59:49 PM »
I know they're just potatoes, but it seems like they just use some kind of shitty oil, and the salt they use always seemed to be granulated much finer than any kind at any other restaurant and for some reason just doesn't enhance the flavor like it's supposed to. Every time I've had to eat Wendy's I always get a thing of ketchup and add salt and pepper to it so I can get some kind of flavor in there.

I've noticed that too and that's why I always had to add more and most times use ketchup.
If I feel the need to use ketchup on fastfood fries, then someone didn't make them right.

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« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2010, 10:09:52 PM »

I honestly don't recall that part of the movie, though.  I'm really surprised to hear that something enclosed in a container could be smelt.  I would think the purpose of the container would be to keep the contents closed, air-tight, to show what happens to them over time.  If the food smelled bad, then that means the containers weren't air-tight.  If the containers weren't air-tight, given what a few recent things have shown, the food (at least the smaller burgers, and definitely the fries), should not have grown mold or anything, and instead should have stayed well preserved.  That's what those foods would typically do, at least according to light research I've read over the hubbub of that woman and her McDonalds "experiment."  Did Spurlock or the movie say the conditions under which the food was kept?  If he suggested they were sealed, but were later thrown out because of scent, then they weren't sealed.  I'm a little confused as to what you're suggesting he's suggesting, regardless.

It was not in the movie itself, it was one of the extras on the DVD release. I would have to find my copy to get the details. It was more of a side experiment. I don't think think they were sealed, I think he just put them in a glass case and was amused at how everything except the fries were decomposing (the McFish especially looked nasty and disgusting).
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« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2010, 10:17:46 PM »
I know they're just potatoes, but it seems like they just use some kind of shitty oil, and the salt they use always seemed to be granulated much finer than any kind at any other restaurant and for some reason just doesn't enhance the flavor like it's supposed to. Every time I've had to eat Wendy's I always get a thing of ketchup and add salt and pepper to it so I can get some kind of flavor in there.

I've noticed that too and that's why I always had to add more and most times use ketchup.
If I feel the need to use ketchup on fastfood fries, then someone didn't make them right.

Weird, I thought I was the only one. I rarely use ketchup for fast food fries but Wendy's is a must.

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Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2010, 10:27:49 PM »
I won't eat french fries (fast food or at home) without ketchup, barbecue sauce, or something else.
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Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2010, 10:37:35 PM »
Wendy's fries dipped in a Frosty is the only way to eat them.

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« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2010, 10:40:04 PM »
I won't eat french fries (fast food or at home) without ketchup, barbecue sauce, or something else.

I'm the same way, with a couple exceptions.
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Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2010, 11:00:02 PM »
I like the french fries from Wendy's. None, to little salt. No Ketchup either. Then again I'm used to eat with little to no salt, or any other processed condiments. I do like Dijon mustard, or regular mustard, whichever I have available. Relish too, but that's extremely rare for me to buy.

On the other hand, my only guilty pleasure in regards to fast food is KFC. Macaroni salad, and the pieces of chicken are my favorite. The french fries suck.

It's actually been months since I've eaten any fast food.

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« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2010, 11:57:18 PM »
Wendy's new fries taste like **** too. I had them them on Halloween (Chic Fil-a was closed and the wife wanted a spicy chicken sandwich), they taste just like the old ones, but every now and then you get some skin on there. Sea salt is a fad that will be gone soon, and it also lacks iodine, which is a necessary mineral. Table salt is processed, and has calcium citrate added (to avoid caking, it's in tons of ground spices), but the processing also removes any impurities. In any case, kosher salt FTW.
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« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2010, 12:28:10 AM »
Potato skin ain't gonna kill ya. Never had mini potatoes roasted in an oven? Delightful.

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« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2010, 05:54:23 PM »
Strange. I like Wendy's fries but other friends of mine hate them also. They say they all taste soggy to them but I like the softness. While I have no problem eating them plain, I love to pour vinegar on them. The Wendy's fry container is the best one to do this for since it is a solid bottom. Pretty much all other restuarants put the fries in a paper bag or container with holes on the bottom and you can't pour vinegar over something like that. Salt and vinegar. Great combo.
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« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2010, 11:54:23 PM »
I have no problem with potato skin, I was just pointing it out. I make roasted red bliss potatoes all the time at work, I made some today actually and ate a bunch of them.
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