Topic: E3 MMX

[MaryJane]

1. What are you expecting?


2. What are you hoping?


3. What will surprise you?
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1. I'm expecting most journalists to tout the graphical advantages of Move and Natal over the Wii while ignoring the Wii's simplicity,--one of the Wii's biggest draws to the blue ocean crowd--price, and the fact that Nintendo pioneered the technology to much laughter and doubts from the two companies they will be lauding for their 'innovations' and graphics. They'll probably also be casting serious doubt over the 3DS unless of course it is everything I hope it will be: GC graphics in 'good enough for a portable' 3D, serious internet client capable of VoIP, and media player.


2. I'm really really REALLY hoping Nintendo shows the next Zelda and that there is more than one control option... the idea of them simplifying the controls after we finally have motion plus is irritating to me. Also that the 3DS is everything I hope it will be. 


3. I would be surprised if Nintendo steals the show away from Microsoft and Sony. Despite the 3DS being debuted, and possibly new Zelda with hordes of other seemingly A+ Wii games, MS and Sony are going to be bringing their best performances to show off their "new" ideas to an audience of "hard-core" gamers who already favor them. As a fan of all three systems, I have to say I am overall uninterested in Move and Natal, but I still think this is going to be one of the best non-system launching E3's.

[KDR_11k]

When is E3 anyway?

[that Baby guy]

The hubbub begins June 14 with a Microsoft Natal party thing, but it officially begins June 16.  Most major press conferences are June 15.

I'd say my opinions, predictions, and all that jazz here, but we're working on a big E3 prediction feature at PixlBit, so I'm saving a lot of my ideas, even the crazy, for that, so I'll just make one guess for each of the numbers:

1: PSP2 will be a PSP with two sticks, better graphics, and a touchscreen, but nothing really new or innovative beyond what the PSP already does.

2: A new Smash Bros, with the promise of balance and downloadable gameplay/character tweaks.  2D Metroid with, unbelievable multiplayer functionality that fits the Metroid series perfectly some how.

3: Natal being an innovative, easy to use success.  Kid Icarus anything.

[ShyGuy]

Is it just me or is there very little in the way of new games to get hyped about?

Conduit 2 - somewhat excited
Grinder Wii - excited
Grinder HD - meh
Zelda - excited

[Stogi]

Well that's because we don't know of any. Nintendo is hush hush these days.

[Stratos]

Release dates for Last Story and Xenoblade.

I have a feeling Wii Party and the Vitality Sensor will play a more major role in the conference than most people want, but I'm keeping optimistic about both.

Zelda Wii will not be playable but we will see teaser videos of it.

[Stogi]

It was already confirmed that Zelda will be playable.

[NWR_insanolord]

1. Zelda Wii coming this year

2. Pikmin 3 coming this year

3. Zangeki no Reginlev coming this year

[Shaymin]

1. What are you expecting?
Fanboy tears, plenty of .gifs and at least one person getting banned from the board for excessive ranting.

As for the content, I'm expecting the 3DS to show well, that something besides Zelda Wii will be day 1 for me from the Nintendo presser, and Move/"Wave" will go over like a fart in church because most of the software will be hi-res Wii Sports/Wii Play.

2. What are you hoping?
That a 3rd party game that isn't Epic Mickey gets some time at the Nintendo presser, and that something is announced for the other 2 systems that forces me to save up and actually get one of them.

3. What will surprise you?
The person who will tap Don Mattrick on the shoulder at the end of the Microsoft conference, and if something pulls a Scribblenauts and comes out of nowhere to be the game of the show.

[Mop it up]

To answer the three questions:

1. At least one new Mario game of some sort announced.

2. A new Smash Brothers involving only the Mario universe.

3. A Mario FPS game.

[MaryJane]

Well that's because we don't know of any. Nintendo is hush hush these days.

Too true... even the things we know Nintendo is showing at E3 are still well kept secrets in a day and age when Vietnam is revealing new American phones every month...

[TJ Spyke]

It was already confirmed that Zelda will be playable.

Where? Last time I checked Nintendo only said they planned on showing it, I haven't seen any reports that they will have it playable. MaryJane, I don't think the new Zelda game will have other controls because Nintendo has already said it will require Wii MotionPlus. Mop, I really hope they never make a Smash Bros. style game with only Mario characters (it would never be called Smash Bros. anyways).

1)Details on the 3DS: confirmation of it's name (officially that is still just the codename, although it's expected to be the final name), it's release date/price, and pics/info on some launch games. Info on the new Zelda game (if it's not playable, then I guarantee it won't be out this year). Also, some more details on Pokemon Black/White.

2)Some info on the 5+ year old Kirby game that Nintendo continues to claim exists on every one of their release schedules as TBA. Also, some DSiWare games for big franchises (i.e. a Fire Emblem DSiWare game, a Tetris one, etc.).

3)Sticking to just Nintendo related information, it would surprise me to see Nintendo bring the Wii no Ma service (the Japanese video on demand service for Wii featuring TV shows, movies, and new content created specifically for the service) to other regions. I would be happily surprised if Nintendo announced a way to transfer DSiWar games from a DSi/DSi XL to the 3DS.

[Stratos]

It was already confirmed that Zelda will be playable.

I'm predicting in spite of that that the game will not be in playable form. It wouldn't be the first time Nintendo has not followed through on something announced before.

[BlackNMild2k1]

It was already confirmed that Zelda will be playable.

Where? Last time I checked Nintendo only said they planned on showing it, I haven't seen any reports that they will have it playable.

Have you checked the Zelda Thread?

of course you have, but let me refresh your memory anyway

Shigeru Miyamoto talks Zelda Wii
http://www.gamingmedia.de/videos,id335,shigeru-miyamoto.html

something about making Zelda more approachable (referring to the controls) since it has become too complicated.

Also says that the artwork is very representative of the look,feel & story of the game.
They made the controls mechanics before they worked on the look and feel of the game, they usually do it the other way around.
Miyamoto want this game to be surprisingly new and pleasing to the fans.

The game will be a E3 and you will see how fun it is to play. [wish I was going ]

translation: NeoGAF

Considering they keep saying it's coming out in 2010, it pretty much would HAVE to be playable if they expected people to believe that.

[ThePerm]

MMX

Mickey Mouse 10

I once put together an MMX400 computer

[TJ Spyke]

It was already confirmed that Zelda will be playable.

Where? Last time I checked Nintendo only said they planned on showing it, I haven't seen any reports that they will have it playable.

Have you checked the Zelda Thread?

of course you have, but let me refresh your memory anyway

Shigeru Miyamoto talks Zelda Wii
http://www.gamingmedia.de/videos,id335,shigeru-miyamoto.html

something about making Zelda more approachable (referring to the controls) since it has become too complicated.

Also says that the artwork is very representative of the look,feel & story of the game.
They made the controls mechanics before they worked on the look and feel of the game, they usually do it the other way around.
Miyamoto want this game to be surprisingly new and pleasing to the fans.

The game will be a E3 and you will see how fun it is to play. [wish I was going ]

translation: NeoGAF

Considering they keep saying it's coming out in 2010, it pretty much would HAVE to be playable if they expected people to believe that.

That doesn't say it will be playable, just that it will be at E3. It could just be a Nintendo executive showing gameplay footage (thus showing how it can be "fun to play"),

[BlackNMild2k1]

i have to revise the stuff i wrote a little bit since i just watched the vid about 1 hour ago and wrote it off my memory but i dont want to make a false translation of miyamoto stuff

- he says that the artwork shown is very important to the story
- you will see after you play it on e3. you will see how fun the game is after you play it
- two things were important : making something surprisingly new and satisfying the fans
- usually they make a demo movie and finish the game according to that. this time they made game mechanics first.

I just paraphrased it since they were still editing in translations when I posted it.

[MaryJane]

I am frankly going to be pissed if they blue ocean Zelda... I don't recall the controls being complicated at all... TP was great my favorite since OoT and I found the controls to be well executed, my only complaint being the lack of 1:1 sword control

[Stratos]

Perm just reminded me of Epic Mickey. I want to see video and playable demos there for it.

[MaryJane]

Perm just reminded me of Epic Mickey. I want to see video and playable demos there for it.

This is another game I was excited about until word came of it being changed:

Disney's upcoming reimagining of its iconic Mouse will make its E3 debut in LA this year, and we're looking forward to getting our hands on it to see just how it handles -- since we're already sold on the style of its art and environments, which twist classic Disney characters and theme park locales into a kind of dark, inky steampunk setting called the Cartoon Wasteland. It's rumored that this project, which was first revealed last fall, has been undergoing some pretty significant upgrades in both style and scope since we had our first look in October. Will the result be an even grittier game, or could the Big D have decided to reign in some of Epic Mickey's more extreme ideas? We'll find out in just a few weeks.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/109/1091182p2.html


Honestly, how likely is it that Disney would okay an already dark game to be even grittier? Imagine the parental backlash when a Mickey Mouse game is given the dreaded T rating instead of E-10+. Parents will complain that they or their young children can be/were fooled into buying the game by Mickey Mouse being on the cover and suddenly it will be pulled and replaced by The Epic Mike the Mouse. I bet they'd pull the game faster than those commercials showing Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears as Mousketeers after they both decided to show their "adult" sides. So my thinking is we'll probably get a good game that could have actually been Epic if not messed with, which my exact worry with Zelda and the "simpler" control scheme.

[Spak-Spang]

I honestly am thinking this E3 will be much less revealing than we think.

1)  Nintendo will announce and show the 3DS in some form, but no actual games will be demoed, just some videos of games in progress.  Of those games I see Mario and Pikmin being used to showcase the system.  And I predict they will want to demonstrate how 3D enhances both traditional 3D games and 2D games alike.  Besides that I expect Zelda and a few other Wii games we already know about being demoed.  I also expect some surprise game to be videoed and Nintendo talking more about the importance of partnering with 3D parties to get fresh takes on old franchises while allowing Nintendo to create new experiences.....and for the most part gamers being upset with those new experiences.

2)  I expect Microsoft to really push the media hype train on Natal.  A killer game will be revealed and it will be amazing when played under the perfect conditions which Microsoft will set up and the media will eat it up as being truly revolutionary...and I expect some sort of answer to how games can be played without a controller...which includes the game scanning real objects to be used in the interface as a controller.

3) Sony will have the most impressive tech with its Move.  It will not waste too much time with casual experiences, but go for the hardcore traditional gamers market with its move at E3.  It will push it as truly the ultimate move based system, and I believe Sony will deliver...but the costs will make people wonder if it is worth it. 

4) I believe Nintendo will be holding many secrets that won't get out...and taking notes on how Sony and Microsoft position themselves, and I believe 2011 Nintendo will strike with a new console that further advance the motion experience and full interaction Nintendo has set up to create.  None of this will be revealed until later this year at the TGS or some Nintendo Press Event.  Unfortunately, 3rd parties won't know about the system for the launch and it will have a rather weak launch line up.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I honestly am thinking this E3 will be much less revealing than we think.

2)  I expect Microsoft to really push the media hype train on Natal.  A killer game will be revealed and it will be amazing when played under the perfect conditions which Microsoft will set up and the media will eat it up as being truly revolutionary...and I expect some sort of answer to how games can be played without a controller...which includes the game scanning real objects to be used in the interface as a controller.

I'm pretty sure Sony already patented that feature.

[Mop it up]

I'm not worried about Zelda, I wonder if the "simplified" comment may be being misconstrued. Swinging the Wii Remote to control the sword is already a more simplified method of control than pressing a button. The reason is because the motion of swinging a sword is familiar to most people, so it is an easier concept to grasp. "I move the controller here and the sword goes there, hey that was easy!" That's much easier to understand than "If I'm standing still and press "B" I do a horizontal slice, if I'm moving forward I do a vertical slice, if I'm Z-targeting I do... wait, run that by me again?"

[Kytim89]

Here are some of my predictions for E3 2010:
 
Conduit 2 will get a new gameplay video and release date
 
Last Story and Xenoblade will be revealed with gameplay and release date
 
Grand Theft Auto wii 
 
Final Fantasy 6 for the VC
 
New Super Mario Brothers wii 2 will be teased
 
New Super Mario Brothers 3DS
 
Super Smash Brothers 3DS
 
Star Fox 3DS
 
Kid Icarus wii
 
Metroid Prime 3DS
 
Wiimote plus(built in motion plus)

[stevey]

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