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Nintendo Systems: Which is your Favorite?

Nintendo Entertainment System
1 (7.7%)
Virtual Boy
0 (0%)
Game Boy
1 (7.7%)
Game Boy Color
0 (0%)
Game Boy Advance
3 (23.1%)
Pokémon Mini
1 (7.7%)
Nintendo 64
4 (30.8%)
Nintendo GameCube
3 (23.1%)

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Voting closed: October 08, 2010, 11:38:21 PM

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It very well could. We'll see where the votes go from those who voted the number 1 choice.

Not at this rate--I'd think it's more likely MK64-lovers would put the Wii version in second place than MKDS-lovers.  If MK64 is still around for the second round of voting it will probably win.
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I am still a huge fan of the MK64 blue turtle shell, and feel that after MK64, racing really broke down to some really bad random weapon attacks.  I wish Nintendo would go back to the Mario Kart 64 formula of weapons.  But, keep some of the awesome Wii Mario Kart stuff. 

I would put Wii Mario Kart over Mario Kart 64, because of single player features. 

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Hey no fair, you can see the poll results!

Oh ****--I forgot you can't.
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Mario Kart DS    - 13 (61.9%)
Mario Kart 64 (N64)    - 8 (38.1%)

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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #480 on: August 09, 2010, 01:55:58 PM »
Surprised that Mario Kart DS won the tiebreaker so soundly.  I wonder how many people voted for the DS version have not played the N64 version.

Going for N64 again.
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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #481 on: August 09, 2010, 02:01:04 PM »
Going with Mario Kart: Double Dash!! this time. The controls take a little getting used to, but I love the tracks (especially Baby Park) and the two players on each kart added a new dynamic (like being able to store one item without having to hold a button down).
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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #482 on: August 09, 2010, 04:58:44 PM »
I may have missed this, but why doesn't the N64 version get second place and we move on to 3rd?  Isn't that how tiebreakers usually work?
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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #483 on: August 09, 2010, 08:25:10 PM »
Not in my polls. ;)
In the original poll, 6 people thought MK64 was worth of first.  Ideally, these same six people should vote for it in second.  However, if the six MKDS voters all agree that another version (say, MKWii, that got 5 votes) is better than MK64, then that puts more voters who think MKWii is a better game than MK64.

You have to earn your ranking - the only game that wins my default is the loser in the final poll. ;)
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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #484 on: August 09, 2010, 08:52:34 PM »
What happens if (as a joke) "I have no opinion on the remaining titles" wins the poll?

BTW, the poll results are not hidden.
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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #485 on: August 09, 2010, 10:04:13 PM »
I liked Mario Kart Double Dash!!, it was better than every previous game. I don't really understand why it appears to be viewed as the worst in the series; it plays pretty much the same with some new features added into it.

I'm still going with Mario Kart Wii though.

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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #486 on: August 09, 2010, 10:09:58 PM »
Maybe the controls are part of the problem some people have, I have to get used to them every time I try and play DD. I personally love every other aspect of the game, I just regret that I never got to try and play the unofficial online mode using the Warp Pipe project.
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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #487 on: August 09, 2010, 10:19:55 PM »
Although I agree the controls are not as tight as later Mario Kart games and therefore take adjusting, I thought they were better than the previous games. But I guess people could have been used to just how slippery the control is in MK64 and SMK, and so they aren't used to DD's more responsive control.

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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #488 on: August 09, 2010, 10:33:32 PM »
I liked Mario Kart Double Dash!!, it was better than every previous game. I don't really understand why it appears to be viewed as the worst in the series; it plays pretty much the same with some new features added into it.

I'm still going with Mario Kart Wii though.

Well, my problem with Double Dash (besides how pointless the dual-rider aspect felt in Single Player Grand Prix) was that the tracks were pretty uniformly bland and forgettable.  Mario Kart Wii's tracks weren't all that much better, either.
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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #489 on: August 09, 2010, 10:38:59 PM »
I liked most of DD's tracks, more than MK64. There were only a couple I didn't enjoy.
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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #490 on: August 09, 2010, 10:40:01 PM »
I find that interesting, actually. The tracks in both games have more intricate designs with a lot more going on. Most of the tracks in previous games were pretty flat, even Mario Kart 64 doesn't have much beyond flatness.

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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #491 on: August 10, 2010, 07:33:51 AM »
I think Super Mario Kart DS has had the best tracks in the game, but Double Dash and Wii do not have boring tracks.  The tracks are actually quite impressive and amazing.  I think perhaps the art style has been lacking in all the 3D Mario Karts, and this makes the tracks feel worse than they really are.  That said some of my favorite tracks to play, and some of the most creative and interesting Mario Kart tracks are in the 3D games. 


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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #492 on: August 10, 2010, 04:13:46 PM »
I would agree that most of the tracks in DD and Wii are a lot more interesting than most of those in 64.  Those in 64 are mostly pretty flat (excluding pits) and didn't tend to have much going on.  This is even more stark when comparing equivalent levels on the games. 

For instance the road level in MK 64 was a simple loop road with a bridge and some cars.  There were no atlernative routes and really nothing there besides the cars.  DD had two road levels.  The first had several shortcuts, including a pipe that shot you out, a sidewalk separated by a railing, a bridge you could drive up the side of, and a couple tunnels.  The second had the track split into 3 intersecting paths, a looping on-ramp, and a pit.

Similarly, the snow level in MK 64 had an iceberg in the middle of the road at one point, some pinguins, and a cave with some pillars.  The one in DD had ice-skating shy guys in place of pinguins, dudes that froze you solid, a couple of blocks of ice with no traction,  a much larger downward-sloping tunnel, and a couple of areas you could cut across by going over hills.  The Wii one has a launcher, skiing shy-guys, moguls, jumps, a pit you can jump across, deep snow, and is one of the steeper down-hill levels in any MK game (and is down-hill almost the entire way). 

The MK 64 seaside level has a hole you can jump through and a ramp, while the DD one has areas that are flooded by tides, a pipe that shoots you out, a big hill, enemies that chase, and a big jump, and the closest one to that on the Wii has a river you need to drive down with several cut-offs, pipes that shoot out shells, an underwater tunnel with water and lightning bolts that shrink you, and a watefall that tries to push you off the course.

Even the same-named level, Moo Moo Meadows, on the Wii has a decent hill, cows on the track, a field you can cut across, and an area with grass patches and moving moles you need to avoid.  The MK 64 one has some fixed moles in a bridge you have to avoid the pillars of, that is about it.

The standard rainbow road level in MK64 is basically a road with hills, a railing, and chomps.  The DD one has a launcher, lots of sharp turns with no walls, much larger changes in altitude, and lots of boosters.  The Wii one has several launchers, several splits in the road, a part the road that bounces you in the air, lots of boosters, lots of areas with no walls, and an area with pits you can jump over or walls you can shoot up.

I would say in pretty much every case, the equivalent levels in DD and Wii have at least as much, and often far more, going on in them than in MK 64, and almost every level in DD and Wii have at least as much going on as the most complicated level in 64, and most of the levels in MK 64 have a lot less going on.
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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #493 on: August 11, 2010, 10:25:30 AM »
TheBlackCat:  True.  You really help point out how most people looking at Mario 64 as the best game, are perhaps only remembering the best qualities of the game. 

The best thing Mario Kart 64 has is the non-exploding blue turtle shell, and less crazy weapons.  However, I still think about the "2D" Mario Kart level design and realize those almost always have more interesting levels, and it is mostly because of art design and creativity. 

Super Mario Kart vs Super Mario Kart 64.  64 added hills but, other than that didn't do much in adding new to the track designs...But then also look at the Gameboy Advanced game, and see all the crazy levels and themes in those tracks.  I love that the sprite based games seem to have more levels themed off of actual Mario games.

Now look at Super Mario Kart DS tracks vs both Double Dash and Wii.  Yes the DD and Wii Karts have some features the DS game doesn't, but creatively speaking the DS tracks are amazing.  Some of the best tracks are literally playing through themed mario levels. They are brilliant. 

 

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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #494 on: August 11, 2010, 11:34:02 AM »
I think the reason so many of us like Mario Kart 64 is because it's got the right mix of racing and crazy-luck.  Beyond that point, there's so many items and track designs that are built around killing you, then defiling your corpse with sex toys that it tends to lose some of the competitive spirit.
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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #495 on: August 11, 2010, 03:24:11 PM »
I daresay that MK64 had the best Battle mode.
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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #496 on: August 11, 2010, 03:29:56 PM »
I daresay that MK64 had the best Battle mode.

I daresay you haven't spent enough time with MKDS's battle mode.
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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #497 on: August 11, 2010, 03:54:07 PM »
I have to agree with insano, MDDS's battle mode blows MK64's out of the water. It's not even close.

I guess I was the only one who picked MKDD this time.
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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #498 on: August 11, 2010, 04:06:33 PM »
What?!? How in the world did MK64 only get 4 votes?
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Re: Series Series - Round 3: Mario Kart: 1st place to DS. Vote now for 2nd!
« Reply #499 on: August 11, 2010, 05:39:47 PM »
Wii is the best version.
DD is the worst version.
N64 has the best battle mode.
DS has the worst track, Yoshi Falls.
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