Topic: So, Wii Sports is the best selling video game of all time

[Mop it up]

That holds true of any item on sale, sales get people to buy things they wouldn't normally buy. And it isn't like they got Wii Play for "free" as they still put money down in order to acquire the game and remote.

[Chozo Ghost]

That holds true of any item on sale, sales get people to buy things they wouldn't normally buy. And it isn't like they got Wii Play for "free" as they still put money down in order to acquire the game and remote.

But would they have spent $50 (or $40 or whatever) for it if it was just the game and no remote?

Let's be honest here and admit the game just isn't worth that price.

[Mop it up]

No, of course not. But Wii Play isn't a $50 game, it is a $10 game. I'll bet if it were released alone as a $10 game then it would have still sold at least ten million copies. People like cheap games, especially ones released near the launch of a system.

[KDR_11k]

How many people who own a Wii liked Wii Sports enough to buy the sequel?

Careful, that also mixes with the question "how many people think WSR offers a sufficiently large improvement to warrant buying?"

[Stratos]

I think WSR offers that.

Airplane mode FTW. Plus it's one of the preferred games to play with other 'casual' type people I've played with. They always ask for that one along with the original WiiSports and New Mario Brothers when I bring the system over.

[Ymeegod]

This is my thoughts on seeing another Sports title this year:

1. there's not alot of "motion plus" games coming this year--fact there's only a handful currently available.

2.  developement time, Zelda might be Big N big star in the winter but will it release in time without getting delayed? 

3.  It add salt to the wound.  Sony's and MS going be launching their motion stuff in the fall; I don't expect them to sell all that much but Nintendo should have something "new" just to keep whatever software Sony and MS launches off the top 10 list.  A new sports title would do just that.  Hell I bet Reggie's already working on his speach when both Sony and MS's attempt fail.   

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[Chozo Ghost]

Nintendo should counter the competitor's motion stuff by reforging their Wiimote so that it has M+ built into it by default. Then whenever someone purchases a Wii console, they're getting a controller that already has it and that way Nintendo will still have a good (if not the best) control option and with that being the standard, anyone developing for the Wii would have to take it into consideration.

[Stratos]

Nintendo should counter the competitor's motion stuff by reforging their Wiimote so that it has M+ built into it by default. Then whenever someone purchases a Wii console, they're getting a controller that already has it and that way Nintendo will still have a good (if not the best) control option and with that being the standard, anyone developing for the Wii would have to take it into consideration.

Though any non-white Wiimote already comes with the M+. Blue, Pink and Black all sell with the add-on.

[Chozo Ghost]

I don't mean addons. I mean the remote should be remade to have it built into it inseparably.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I'm pretty sure they are saving that for Wii2, simply packing it in with every system and every separate controller from here on out should be good enough.

[Chozo Ghost]

I hope the next Wiimote thing also has enough buttons to at least handle SNES games on the VC. Two more buttons next to the 1 and 2 buttons plus an L and R at the top (when you turn it on its side) ought to do it.

[Stogi]

Doubtful. I'm pretty sure Nintendo is going to stick with a simple remote again, possibly even more simple then we have today -- or in my case, had.

[Stratos]

Had? What happened?

[NWR_insanolord]

Stogi gave away his Wii and is holding out for Nintendo to release a black one before he gets a new one.

[Stratos]

Oh yeah, now I remember reading about it. I was thinking something more recent happened.

[Ian Sane]

The funny thing with all this is whether or not Wii Sports or Wii Fit count, Nintendo is still the company with the best selling game.  The right company gets the credit.

I say pack-ins don't count but only in the sense that the amount sold as a pack-in doesn't count.  Some games are sold primarily as seperate titles and a limited-time bundle is also available.  But the primary intention is for the game to be bought seperately so those count.  I consider Wii Play to be an exception since it comes with a standard controller.  Other bundles are always stuff where it comes with some special peripheral that that game is designed for.  So it comes with a wheel or a lightgun or a guitar or a balance board.  In that case the idea is more to buy the game and the accesssory required for that game.  The idea isn't really to buy the accessory for a different purpose.  The remote is a standard controller.  Wii Play is not a special title that makes use of a special accessory.

My definition isn't a clear-cut rule.  To me it's more case-by-case.  It just seems obvious to me which titles hold a legitimate claim to their sales.  Sadly, one of my favourite games of all time, Super Mario World, has tainted sales.  Any of its GBA or VC sales though are legitimate.

[Plugabugz]

Stogi gave away his Wii and is holding out for Nintendo to release a black one before he gets a new one.

Pay me and i'll buy you one.

[Stogi]

Really? Will it work in the US?

[Mop it up]

Only if your television can accept a PAL video signal, which I doubt.

[BlackNMild2k1]

What you need to do is swap a case with a EUR or JPN Black Wii and make sure you get all the included controllers and cables that came with the black version.

[Mop it up]

A bottle of spray paint is cheaper and easier than that.

[BlackNMild2k1]

But it would look cheap. And the cords and controllers wouldn't be the right color.

[TJ Spyke]

Only if your television can accept a PAL video signal, which I doubt.

Most TV's nowadays can accept both PAL and NTSC signals, the only real problem lies in the AC adapter. You will need a power converter if you have a import system (at least if you don't want to take a chance with frying your system).

The other problem is that I think all ways to play import Wii games don't work anymore, so you would be stuck playing PAL Wii games on it.

[BlackNMild2k1]

case switch. it's the only way at this point to have the real thing.

Unless Nintendo wants to see a big cheshire cat smile on my face on Wed. and announce the Black Wii.

[Mop it up]

Most TV's nowadays can accept both PAL and NTSC signal

Source?

the only real problem lies in the AC adapter. You will need a power converter if you have a import system (at least if you don't want to take a chance with frying your system).

I've never heard of that happening with any Nintendo game system, and I've talked with several people who have swapped adapters. The system itself isn't different than an NTSC system, and the power conversion takes place entirely in the adapter. You could use the AC adapter from a North America system and it'd work fine.