Author Topic: So, Wii Sports is the best selling video game of all time (Read 22992 times)

Ymeegod · « **Reply #25 on:** February 20, 2010, 12:07:25 AM »

LOL? Never heard of Shaun White Snowboarding or what about Skate It? Like you said, nintendo didn't sell it seperate so people are basically stuck with a game (has no resale value minus the board).

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #26 on:** February 20, 2010, 01:23:18 AM »

Nobody (not literally, of course, but statistically speaking) bought Wii Fit just so they could use the Balance Board for those games.

Mop it up · « **Reply #27 on:** February 20, 2010, 01:24:36 AM »

Bundled games are in no way free, they are included in the asking price. You pay for them, otherwise Nintendo would be giving out copies of Wii Sports on their website. Wii Sports is the reason why the Wii was $50 more than previous Nintendo systems. Wii Play is the reason it costs $10 more than a Wii Remote.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 20, 2010, 01:28:15 AM »

Quote from: Ymeegod on February 20, 2010, 12:07:25 AM

LOL? Never heard of Shaun White Snowboarding or what about Skate It? Like you said, nintendo didn't sell it seperate so people are basically stuck with a game (has no resale value minus the board).

The thing about those games is that you can play them with out the BB and you probably wouldn't seek out a BB just to use them. Those games are targeted at people that already own a BB and the only reason to actually buy a BB is because it comes with WiiFit/+.

I highly doubt too many people would have spent $100+ on a Shaun White Snowboarding w/ BB combo as they probably would have just picked up the stand alone version for probably less than half the price. Same goes for Skate It.

WiiFit and everything it represents is what sells the BB, not the other way around, as one wouldn't exist if it weren't for the other. No other game would have made as convincing of a case for the need of a BB and that is why the 2 are essentially one product.

Quote from: insanolord on February 20, 2010, 01:23:18 AM

Nobody (not literally, of course, but statistically speaking) bought Wii Fit just so they could use the Balance Board for those games.

I'm glad you agree.

Stratos · « **Reply #29 on:** February 20, 2010, 01:29:57 AM »

Super Mario Brother 3 AND Nintendogs were packed in with SKUs for their respective systems so they can't count.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #30 on:** February 20, 2010, 01:44:30 AM »

? Actually quite a few did, Shaun White was shown at E3 and alot of snowboarding fans went ahead and bought the damn thing. Same with Skate It. You can play those music games on a joypad too but it would kind of kill the purpose.

And I didn't buy a WII for sports as someone else on this board stated--right there's already two sales that shouldn't count. If it was such a great game then wouldn't the sequel be right there along side it? Sports Resort is selling (better than I would have thought) but it's not going be hitting 20 mil let alone 66 million. But you can count sports resort though because even though it's bundled with motion plus you can still get an motion plus controller seperate.

By you insane logic the best selling game of all time is no WII Sports but freaking Solitaire

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Ymeegod · « **Reply #31 on:** February 20, 2010, 01:45:32 AM »

"Super Mario Brother 3 AND Nintendogs were packed in with SKUs for their respective systems so they can't count."

But you can buy the standalone hardware without them so yeah you can still count them.

Stogi · « **Reply #32 on:** February 20, 2010, 01:49:26 AM »

^^^ I agree with that.

Stratos · « **Reply #33 on:** February 20, 2010, 01:56:01 AM »

But the same could be said about the first SMB. I didn't get that game for myself until near the launch of the SNES because it was on sale. How does this change the matter? Both games were available at times as a pack-in with the system AND separately. Am I missing something obvious here?

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 20, 2010, 01:57:18 AM »

I can't think of a single person that would pay hundreds of dollars for a computer just because it came with solitaire(which is not an advertised game or a selling point), so by my logic, that doesn't even make sense.

WSR has sold almost 14million copies in 7 months on sale WW and is still in the Top 10 and you don't think it's gonna get up in the 20's? It's doing on average almost 2 million a month WW and it hasn't even been a year yet.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #35 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:03:43 AM »

Quote from: Ymeegod on February 20, 2010, 01:44:30 AM

? Actually quite a few did, Shaun White was shown at E3 and alot of snowboarding fans went ahead and bought the damn thing. Same with Skate It. You can play those music games on a joypad too but it would kind of kill the purpose.

And I didn't buy a WII for sports as someone else on this board stated--right there's already two sales that shouldn't count. If it was such a great game then wouldn't the sequel be right there along side it? Sports Resort is selling (better than I would have thought) but it's not going be hitting 20 mil let alone 66 million. But you can count sports resort though because even though it's bundled with motion plus you can still get an motion plus controller seperate.

By you insane logic the best selling game of all time is no WII Sports but freaking Solitaire .

I'm not saying there weren't lunatics who were willing to pay $140 to be able to play Shaun White with a Balance Board and didn't care about Wii Fit, I'm saying that they made up an incredibly small proportion of the Wii Fit sales, as in less than 1%: like I said, not statistically significant.

Wii Sports Resort has already sold 14 million copies, which means it's sold more copies than over 99% of the games that have ever been made. Given that and its continued consistent sales, I don't understand why you'd think it won't hit 20 million; it's probably got a decent shot at passing Wii Fit to become the best-selling non-pack-in.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #36 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:06:22 AM »

People don't count SMB sales neither because when the system frist came out it was bundled only. At least stateside. Japan was the only country were you could buy an Famicon without it at launch. Same with WII Sports, the Japanese didn't get the game for free (they had to buy it for at a budgetted price of $40). You can count them.

The only time you can count hardware bundles is if that product only works with that one game. Tony's Ride or even that DJ Hero would be examples of that.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #37 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:14:21 AM »

You won't know what the % is unless you went around and counted and you forgot alot of people bought WII FIT for their kids, and how many of them actually used them?

As for WII Sports Resort, it's just to profitable a title to pass up for nintendo not to make it annual. I'm guessing at E3 we'll hear about another Sports title coming down the road in the fall.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:16:02 AM »

Majority of the people were sold on NES because of SMB though, same situation with WiiSports.
People in Japan may have had to buy it separately, but I bet it was one of if not the best selling NES game in Japan too.

As far as DJ Hero and TH Ride, WiiFit is in the same boat. The hardware was created to play the game. If TH Ride and DJ Hero were huge successes then I'm sure other games would be made to utilize the equipment that all those people had already bought.
<insert reference to Rock of the Dead here>

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:20:19 AM »

Quote from: Ymeegod on February 20, 2010, 02:14:21 AM

You won't know what the % is unless you went around and counted and you forgot alot of people bought WII FIT for their kids, and how many of them actually used them?

I think that's besides the point. The people still bought WiiFit for WiiFit, not just the balance board.

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As for WII Sports Resort, it's just to profitable a title to pass up for nintendo not to make it annual. I'm guessing at E3 we'll hear about another Sports title coming down the road in the fall.

We won't see another WiiSports game till Wii2, Nintendo obviously likes to let a game ride and not make too many sequels especially while the first game is still selling strong, with the exception of WiiFit Plus which isn't a sequel, but an update.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #40 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:23:42 AM »

"If TH Ride and DJ Hero were huge successes then I'm sure other games would be made to utilize the equipment that all those people had already bought"

But the fact remains the same--there's no other title as of now can use them.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #41 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:24:46 AM »

"Nintendo obviously likes to let a game ride " Guess you skipped over Mario Party then?

Mop it up · « **Reply #42 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:25:55 AM »

There's only one Mario Party on Wii and it is still selling...

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:26:52 AM »

Quote from: Ymeegod on February 20, 2010, 02:23:42 AM

"If TH Ride and DJ Hero were huge successes then I'm sure other games would be made to utilize the equipment that all those people had already bought"

But the fact remains the same--there's no other title as of now can use them.

and why would they? there are what several 100k of them out there combined? might as well make a game for wonderswan and release it only in the US. There is no market for it therefore it wouldn't make sense.

I don't even know what point you are trying to argue anymore.

Quote from: Ymeegod on February 20, 2010, 02:24:46 AM

"Nintendo obviously likes to let a game ride " Guess you skipped over Mario Party then?

Quote from: Mop_it_up on February 20, 2010, 02:25:55 AM

There's only one Mario Party on Wii and it is still selling...

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Stratos · « **Reply #44 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:27:38 AM »

Quote from: Ymeegod on February 20, 2010, 02:24:46 AM

"Nintendo obviously likes to let a game ride " Guess you skipped over Mario Party then?

Plus that was made by a 3rd party so they might have had more say in how many of them were made.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #45 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:41:13 AM »

Actually Hudson developed them but Nintendo published them so they had total control. Same with Mario and Sonic games too. Nintendo learned it's mistakes with the CD-I.

And for awhile there Nintendo was releasing them yearly and that's my point I was making, they stop with 8 and I'm not sure why other than it might have to be a fallout with the developer--Hudson did make that Deca Sports and I recall they weren't happy with Big N because they couldn't use MIIs and I bet Nintendo wasn't pleased with them taking a similar title to their own game. Maybe I'm wrong but I haven't heard any news on MP9 for a long time.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #46 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:49:01 AM »

I'm sure MP had a yearly release for a while because, well, they had a developer to do them and then needed to fill out their release schedule.

Point is, Nintendo has been doing some things differently with the Wii ever since Iwata has had full control of whats going on, and yearly sequels to games that could become ever green if given the right support is not gonna happen anymore. Who wants to buy essentially the same game over and over again every year besides the sports fanatics that need an updated roster?

If it's really just because Hudson decided to not make them anymore, then so be it, but that doesn't change the fact that there is only 1 MP game for Wii and Nintendo is letting the game ride on it's own merits and it's doing just fine. We have yet to even hear request for a sequel or interest in them making one.

Stratos · « **Reply #47 on:** February 20, 2010, 03:41:35 AM »

True, people have been complaining about too many MP sequels but now that they stopped the annual release people are complaining. I guess I'm afraid that if I cave and buy it that they will then announce a sequel.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #48 on:** February 20, 2010, 05:31:55 AM »

Anyone who says the majority of Wii Play owners bought it just for the game and not for the controller is either being dishonest or just plain stupid. The reviews Ian posted are from actual consumers, and that shows exactly what they are thinking right from their own mouths. Those quotes prove for a fact that many Wii Play owners bought it only for the controller.

Does this mean all consumers bought it only for the controller? Well no, probably not, but that's not the point. The point is MOST of them did. Wii Play might have sold reasonably well without the remote, but still no where near as well as it did with it.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #49 on:** February 20, 2010, 05:36:28 AM »

Quote from: Mop_it_up on February 20, 2010, 01:24:36 AM

Bundled games are in no way free, they are included in the asking price. You pay for them, otherwise Nintendo would be giving out copies of Wii Sports on their website. Wii Sports is the reason why the Wii was $50 more than previous Nintendo systems. Wii Play is the reason it costs $10 more than a Wii Remote.

No, that's not always true. Wii Play has sometimes cost the same or even less than just getting a plain remote. How would you explain that? If someone wanted an extra controller they could pay $40 for just the wiimote, or they could grab wii play with a wiimote for perhaps $30. I know its been like that because I seen it myself. So how can you say someone is paying extra for a bundled game if the bundle costs less than the hardware by itself?

Granted, that isn't always the case and that's not the MSRP of Wii Play, but I have seen it sell that way, and I know others have too.

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Author Topic: So, Wii Sports is the best selling video game of all time (Read 22992 times)