I think this topic has merit in the sense that instead of creating something new with HD graphics they tend to stick with the tried and true.
You could make the same argument about Nintendo and their franchises. Instead of creating new IP they stick with the tried and true - Mario, Mario Kart, Smash Bros., Metroid Prime re-release, New Play Control re-releases, etc. Of course, the counter-argument to that is the new stuff they've done like Wii Sports/Resort, Punch-Out!!, Wii Fit, Wii Music, and a bunch of awesome (and original) DS games.
My point is that this all feeds into a stereotype that reinforces what you don't like about the other consoles. So what if you don't like first-person shooters? Just ignore them. They aren't made for you anyways, just like Nintendo games on the whole aren't made for some people either. This entire thread is fanboy troll-baiting, and it gets so old. You could go to a PS3 or 360 forum and see a thread just like this turned around on the Wii, with the same hyperbolic arguments and blanket statements.
Stuff like this just drags down the atmosphere of these forums...that's why I don't like it.
In all honesty, I posted this with the goal of simply saying "Haha! Look, it's funny!", but I think I'll turn this discussion serious now since a very good point has just been presented here...
Yes, you're right: there are threads on other forums dedicated to the PS360 mocking the Wii, but the same threads exist on general gaming forums as well.
The Wii is regarded as crap on most any general gaming forum. Why is that? Is it because it HONESTLY had zero games worth playing? Of course not: I spend my free time playing Brawl and whatever I rent from GameFly, which recently included Overlord (which was great but short), LKS, Punchout and now I'm starting on the Conduit. This very minute, I'm reliving the days of my youth with Sonic the Hedgehog on the virtual console. The Wii is a FANTASTIC platform for games.
So why does it get trashed in any non-Nintendo forum and even some Nintendo specific forums?
Let's think back to the GC for a minute. I don't care what anyone says, the GC was a goddamn good system. SSBM, Pikmin 1&2, Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, FF:CC, Four Swords, Eternal Darkness, MGS:TS, Geist (the aiming was the ONLY downside of this game), Super Monkey Ball, F-ZeroGX, Metroid Prime 1&2, Animal Crossing, etc., etc. Yet, it routinely got **** all over, especially by the people who were supposed to be the GC-specific editors! (I'm looking at YOU, IGN).
I've looked over the library of the original Xbox: 90% of it was utter crap. All this militant Xbox fanboyism that went on back then was nothing more than smoke and mirrors and male posturing. These guys sure as hell weren't going on about the wonderful games the system had, but the system itself.
But here's the fucking ridiculous part: it WORKED! All of the FUD that Microsoft succeeded in spreading, combined with the lack of support for the GC by its own alleged proponents meant that any kid looking to pick up a console of that generation was unlikely to pick up a GC for fear of ridicule. It was an excellent system with many, MANY AAA games, and yet none of that mattered because, when push came to shove, no one would stand up for the GC.
Let's look at the GC's closest approximation this gen, the PS3. The PS3 is in dead last, launched with terribad numbers, has suffered a huge drought of quality exclusives and has been plagued by price point problems from day one. For all the flak they take, the Sony Defense Force
doesn't...give...up. I don't see IGN PS3 editors talking about playing Halo 3 instead of reviewing Killzone 2, because despite the fact that the PS3 is in a far, FAR more laughable state than the GC ever was (Giant enemy crab, 599 US dollars, you'll get a 2nd job to buy one, etc.), they haven't quit on it.
I'm not saying that militant fanboyism is a good thing, but the problem lies in the fact that no doubt many potential Wii owners have been pushed away from owning a Wii. They check online, largely uneducated, to see what people are saying about it, and when they see PS360 sites lambasting the Wii and ALSO see Wii sites lambasting the Wii, odds are they're not going to pick one up.
I think Nintendo saw this happening and the blue ocean was also intended to shift the customer base OUT of the group that succumbs to peer pressure and FUD.
The point is, the HD consoles can handle themselves (I have a 360 and PS3 as well, FYI). They're attached to gigantic, multinational corporations who will disappear from the market the minute that the "owning the living room" dream is made irrelevant by some unforeseen sweeping change and they'll be off to greener pastures.
But Nintendo is in this until the bitter end: I believe them when they say they'll go out of business before selling out. Right now, the FUD has basically succeeded in convincing the internet that the Wii has no good games to play, despite the MANY examples to the contrary that abound. If we, the alleged Nintendo fans, don't stick up for the console, then our silence equates damnation for the Wii. To the many thousands of lurkers this forum sees daily, I'm sure most come away with the idea that even a community built around Nintendo has few good things to say about the Wii.
I believe the Wii is the best of the three consoles, by leaps and bounds. I believe that motion control is just waiting for an enterprising developer to unveil its true potential. In my support of the Wii, I don't see anything wrong with poking fun at some of the very WORST trends in gaming, such as the endless rehashing of the same goddamn FPS over and over and over again. I'm actually a FPS
connoisseur, which is why I see TF2 as proof that god loves humanity, hence why I balk at the endless parade of stale, uninspired shooters (Conduit included).
In summary, poking fun at the "enemy" is not only warranted but is necessary to maintain a sense that, yes, there IS a fanbase behind the Wii. Besides, this is pretty harmless compared to what you might see on other forums. It's not like this thread is titled "PS360 ARE GIANT PIECES OF ****!!!", but I'm sure you can find a thread suggesting the very same about the Wii on many other forums.
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