Topic: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare coming to Wii 11/10/09

[NWR_insanolord]

Does anyone want to play tonight? I'll be bale to be on in a couple hours.

[Mop it up]

I'm already scheduled to play The Conduit with Maxi and his motley crew of misfits at 9PM EST (in 40 minutes). I don't know how long we will play, but if you are still available after I'm finished, I could join you for some team matches.

Do you have The Conduit, Insanolord?

[BranDonk Kong]

It's unbelievable that enough people own this game to actually find people online at the time. I guess not everyone online actually paid for it though.

[Mop it up]

This game has already sold more copies than The Conduit. I'm not sure what you mean by your second comment, and I probably don't want to know.
That kind of sounds like a troll remark...

[NWR_insanolord]

I do own The Conduit; like many of the games I own, though, I've never played it.

I never got around to playing this because I spent the night reinstalling the Homebrew Channel on my Wii. It had been deleted when I did the 4.2 and I didn't care until tonight, when I, for some reason, decided that I'm going to import New Play Control Pikmin 2 (and probably Disaster as well, as long as I'm going to the trouble).

I will say, however, that, as someone who owns (and has actually spent time playing) Modern Warfare 2 on both 360 and PC, this game is, by quite a large margin, the best Call of Duty game I've played.

[BranDonk Kong]

Hmmm, according to VG Chartz (not that it's accurate), CODMWR has sold .88 million copies, with 640K coming from the US. I'm actually *quite* impressed if this is even anywhere near close. It at least gives hope for the next COD game launching with the PS3/360 versions.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Assassins Creed 2 [PS3] 417,000
Borderlands ~300,000
The Saboteur < 125,000
GH:Van Halen [All systems] < 75,000

DJ Hero > 800,000 (LTD)
CoD4:MW[Reflex] > 500k (LTD)
WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2010 < 500k (LTD)
Excitebots ~110k (LTD)

We've known that is was doing better than expected over a month ago.
But the only thing for Wii launching at the same time as the next CoD PS360 (MW3?) is the last CoD (MW2).

[NWR_insanolord]

I'd rather see an Infinity Ward Call of Duty ported to the Wii than a Treyarch one, even if it's late. Maybe by then they'll have fixed the problems with MW2's multiplayer. Knowing Activision, though, if this one sold well, they may give us both. They released 5 band games last year, why not 2 Call of Duty games?

[Stratos]

Wait, Maxi's Conduit game was tonight? I thought it was later this coming week? Bummer, I had thought it was on Tuesday for some reason because I had hopped to join him for it.

Little surprise that this COD is doing so well honestly. The last one sold over a million (World @ War) so it makes sense to expect the next one to do as well if not better. And in spite of the wave of negativity over it being an older port too. But I will totally champion this game because playing it has really shown me how poor Conduit is compared to it.

When is the next Modern Warfare/COD game planned to release? Because maybe if Modern Warfare 3 comes out in 2011 we can see MW2 on Wii this year and MW3 next year along with the releases on the other systems.

[Mop it up]

I'm sorry to say Stratos, but I'm afraid that I don't share your opinion that this is a better game than The Conduit. There is too much stuff going on, and too many eccentricities like not being able to fire when running and the varying accuracy based on stance, The Conduit is more straight-up shooting action. There's no denying that it is more feature-full, but it isn't as enjoyable. Here's a nice, convenient list of my thoughts on the game.

What I like:
-Ability to play with a combination of friends and randoms, which also allows to be teamed up with friends.
-Nice variety of weapon types and uses.
-The challenges are a fun little thing on the side to attempt.
-A lot of control options, I think it has everything except the HUD placement.
-A few points are awarded for an assist, which encourages teamwork.
-Faster connection times

What I'm not so sure about...
-I can't say I'm a fan of the classes, and to a lesser extent unlocking weapons. I think I prefer it when everyone pulls from the same weapon set, it seems more fair that way.
-I don't like the perks, most of them (like the grenade drop) cheapen the game.
-I'm not fond of the bonuses that are awarded for kill streaks, they are just unnecessary distractions.
-The explosive weapons are garbage. Not that The Conduit is much better, but at least it has a proper rocket launcher.
-The graphics are grainy and start to strain my eyes after a while.
-Still no score subtraction for suicides. Though it doesn't matter as much in this game, and it isn't as easy to quickly kill yourself.
-No health bar. The red is annoying.
-Constantly loads from the disc, so the system is always making the clankity noise of loading.

[Stratos]

Those are some warranted concerns.

Though there is a mode you can play online called 'old school mode' where weapons and such are pickups like in normal games and you have a health bar. Though I personally like the red sight over a normal health bar. It feels more immersive and I get more into the game.

If the teams are terribly unbalanced then the kill streak bonuses can make the game even more lopsided but overall I enjoy them and it feels good to call in the different powers and strikes.

[Mop it up]

Sounds interesting, I'll have to check that out. Is that mode still teams?

Some of that stuff makes sense in the context of the single player mode, and I can see how it all comes together to make the game realistic and immersive. Multiplayer isn't supposed to be either. The fact that you can somehow come back to life however many times you want kind of kills any chance of realism it could have. It should be straight-up shooty shooty for the lolz. That's what I want, anyway.

[Stratos]

I just enjoy getting caught in the moment and so seeing my vision cloud with red and hearing the beating of my characters heart and rapid, panicked breaths gives me a bit of a rush, I suppose.

I'll check if the old school mode allows teams. Most of the modes allow for teams that I have seen.

Does anyone want to play tonight? I'll be bale to be on in a couple hours.

I'm down with playing some if you are still up and interested.

[Dasmos]

What I'm not so sure about...
-I can't say I'm a fan of the classes, and to a lesser extent unlocking weapons. I think I prefer it when everyone pulls from the same weapon set, it seems more fair that way.
-I don't like the perks, most of them (like the grenade drop) cheapen the game.
-I'm not fond of the bonuses that are awarded for kill streaks, they are just unnecessary distractions.
-The explosive weapons are garbage. Not that The Conduit is much better, but at least it has a proper rocket launcher.
-The graphics are grainy and start to strain my eyes after a while.
-Still no score subtraction for suicides. Though it doesn't matter as much in this game, and it isn't as easy to quickly kill yourself.
-No health bar. The red is annoying.
-Constantly loads from the disc, so the system is always making the clankity noise of loading.

You'd hate the second Modern Warfare then, it's even more about what perks/guns/killstreaks you have unlocked and less about accuracy and competency within the game. That said even the Wii's version CoD is better than the Conduit. That game is a trainwreck (and like SSBB I can't get online with it for some reason!)

[BlackNMild2k1]

I saw someone compare MW2 to Pokemon.

Collecting guns, going on the grind and leveling up your gun, then choosing your guns for battle. UMP I choose You!!!

[Stratos]

LOL, who'd have thought.

[Dasmos]

I saw someone compare MW2 to Pokemon.

Collecting guns, going on the grind and leveling up your gun, then choosing your guns for battle. UMP I choose You!!!

Ahaha that's awesome. It's pretty much exactly like that.

[Mop it up]

You'd hate the second Modern Warfare then, it's even more about what perks/guns/killstreaks you have unlocked and less about accuracy and competency within the game.

That's disgusting. Whatever happened to good ol' fashioned just you and a gun vs. the world?

I saw someone compare MW2 to Pokemon.

Collecting guns, going on the grind and leveling up your gun, then choosing your guns for battle. UMP I choose You!!!

Ha ha, that actually sounds about right.

[BranDonk Kong]

MW2 really isn't that much different than MW, only it's *more* balanced, and there are more online (and offline) modes. The Juggernaut Perk is gone, and now there are death streaks that will give you some help if you repeatedly die without getting a kill. It definitely rewards you for playing well (or getting lucky or camping), but isn't that what games are supposed to do?

[Mop it up]

Aren't the experience points the reward for playing well? That's good enough.

[Stratos]

He means in the specific match you are playing by rewarding you with radar or a chopper call-in.

[Dasmos]

Or a nuke that will automatically let you win no matter wher you're placed.

[Stratos]

Wouldn't a nuke mean everyone dies, even you?

[Chozo Ghost]

Wouldn't a nuke mean everyone dies, even you?

Yeah, but you win the game so it doesn't matter.

But it isn't easy. You have to kill 25 people without dying before you can do it, and I think that's a tough feat even for pro gamers. I definitely think if someone can pull it off they deserve to win.

[Dasmos]

I've gotten a few nukes, admittedly mostly against average Australian players, but all you need is a modest killstreak to get a decent killstreak bonus. Then after using that killstreak trying to get a Chopper Gunner to start racking the kills up, it's not that hard if you can get to that point.

The most trouble I have is always trying to get the last couple of kills when I'm around 21/22 kills or not dying when I'm calling one of my killstreak rewards.

Or of course there's those people who you see that of the same "clan" killing each other. This means they're probably in a corner somewhere repeatedly killing each other in other to try and get a nuke.