Topic: Microsoft's Xbox Kinect - Nov 4th 2010

[King of Twitch]

Kin...ect?? Kin..as in family..YOU CAN NOW PLAY XNOZ 360 WITH YOUR FAMILY??

GENIUS

[BlackNMild2k1]

[BlackNMild2k1]

I thought people were complaining for a long time that E3 was getting too expensive.  Apparently now MS has Cirque make a special performance just for a preshow thingamajiger.  I get the feeling its goin to be all spectacle with celebrities and shows with little actually shown by MS.

http://twitpic.com/1wmkk6

[Caliban]

Well it's out November 4th, but no price was announced.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

They're really going to compete with Donkey Zelda Kong Icarus?

[Chozo Ghost]

All of the games for this Kinect thing are "Kiddie" casual gamer crap. Frankly, I'm glad because that will help deflect some of that away from Nintendo for a change. But I doubt the Xbox's core following of Halo and other blood and gore games will really sink their teeth into this thing. The games for it are really not their cup of tea.

[King of Twitch]

Lil George Stephalopogus is of course amused

http://news.yahoo.com/video/business-15749628/new-microsoft-game-no-remote-needed-20325428

[vudu]

Oh George!  Say it ain't so! 

I used to watch you every Sunday morning.  You must really want that Evening News anchor chair.   

[BlackNMild2k1]

Lil George Stephalopogus is of course amused

http://news.yahoo.com/video/business-15749628/new-microsoft-game-no-remote-needed-20325428

"Look Mom, No Hands!"

How exactly do they think this works again?

[King of Twitch]

Lucky Kinect, I wish I had 48 different points on her body

[ThePerm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgRiNCyFgHk&feature=related

in the year 2015

to translate not exactly: how lame! you play with your hands?

[Ian Sane]

Kinect's lame first impression has given me a different perspective on the Wii's third party support.  We've accused third parties of having it in for Nintendo and thus not giving a full effort with their Wii games.  But third parties appear to like Microsoft because they give the Xbox 360 very good support.  People (sort of) joked that all the third parties that treat the Wii like crap would suddenly bust out amazing motion control games on the HD consoles.  Yet Kinect's lineup thus far, including the first party stuff, bears a shocking similarity to lame Wii third party games.  We still have to see Move but it seems like no one aside from Nintendo is able to come up with anything remotely worth a **** for motion control.  Maybe it's just really hard to work with, maybe the concept just isn't all that hot, maybe no one is willing to be creative, or maybe most developers have a hatred of motion controls (as opposed to a hatred of Nintendo).

It seems like it isn't bias against Nintendo or the weaker hardware because that isn't an issue with Kinect.  It seems like motion controls are the issue.  We may not know specifically why but that's the common ground.  The details about Move will provide us further insight.

[ShyGuy]

Considering 3rd party support on the N64 and Gamecube, I think third parties hate more than motion control.

[NWR_insanolord]

I think we need to wait and see what Sony has to offer with Move before making that judgment. Kinect was an awful idea to begin with, and third parties aren't supporting it because it doesn't work for anything other than minigames and tech demos. Move, on the other hand, is a blatant and direct ripoff of Nintendo's controller, and thus has a lot of possible applications for more traditional games. If it doesn't get any real support, then you may have an argument.

[ThePerm]

sort of mentioned above 3rd parties never gave much support n64/gamecube era. They snuff Nintendo routinely like its fun. Maybe they are treating motion controls like **** because its something Nintendo initially pushed. Or maybe the game industry is just fucking stupid.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I would point all of you towards the article where Nintendo called Move and Kinect(Natal at the time) a threat to Nintendo's future, but I'm too lazy to go look for it right now.

This is exactly why too. To much shitty uninspired done for the sake of saying you did it tacked on motion support is not helping Nintendo push genuinely creative stuff into a market that is still receptive and appreciative of motion controls.

[BeautifulShy]

I thought I would mention that Microsoft is going to discontinue all of the current 360 models. Whatever is out there is all there is going to be. The Kitect compatable verson is what Microsoft is going to be taking forward.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

"To say I was disappointed with Kinect would be putting it mildly. After waiting at the Galen Center for a couple of hours, other than the name, Kinect, nothing was revealed except a handful of pre-recorded demos where actors clearly pretended to control the on-screen characters (avatars) with their own body movement. At several points the avatars would move before the actors did, ruining the illusion of a real live demo of Kinect. This body-synch debacle makes Milli Vanilli's legendary lip-synch outrage look tame by comparison."

http://games.ign.com/articles/109/1096907p1.html

[Mop it up]

If the new model has a special connection for the Kinect, how does it plug into a current model?

[BeautifulShy]

If the new model has a special connection for the Kinect, how does it plug into a current model?

It probably doesn't have one...
You might have to buy the Kinect model.

[Caliban]

The new 360 has an orange labeled connection in the back. You know like the one on the Wii. Coincidental I guess.
If you don't have a new 360 then it plugs through it's own adapter through the USB port of the old 360.

So basically:

*If you have new 360 it connects directly.

*If you have an old 360 it connects through one of its usb ports.

[BlackNMild2k1]

"To say I was disappointed with Kinect would be putting it mildly. After waiting at the Galen Center for a couple of hours, other than the name, Kinect, nothing was revealed except a handful of pre-recorded demos where actors clearly pretended to control the on-screen characters (avatars) with their own body movement. At several points the avatars would move before the actors did, ruining the illusion of a real live demo of Kinect. This body-synch debacle makes Milli Vanilli's legendary lip-synch outrage look tame by comparison."

http://games.ign.com/articles/109/1096907p1.html

That same thing happened during the conference.
One of the "game" models ducked or jumped or something way before the person on stage did, and then she tried her best to play catch up to the game.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

That's perfect.  None of the products work nor exist.

[nickmitch]

Gotta admit that MS completely failed to wow me with Kinect. Eventhough, it's too early to call a victor (obviously), I feel safe to say the MS lost E3.

EDIT: I honestly doubt Kinect will work right at launch if PRERECORDED footage was a fail. It'll probably need a patch soon after release. I'm surprised they still seem to have some work to do with the hardware.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Gotta admit that MS completely failed to wow me with Kinect. Eventhough, it's too early to call a victor (obviously), I feel safe to say the MS lost E3.

EDIT: I honestly doubt Kinect will work right at launch if PRERECORDED footage was a fail. It'll probably need a patch soon after release. I'm surprised they still seem to have some work to do with the hardware.

Sony & Nintendo would have to have a TERRIBLE outing to lose E3 to MS at this point.

Maybe Nintendo doesn't reveal 3DS at all and focuses on Vitality Sensor and Wii Relax incidentally making the entire viewing audience so relaxed that we miss the rest of the conference. Too much focus on WiiParty and only a short glimpse of Zelda.

Sony cold have technical difficulties and drop a Move remote, the casing breaks open and a Wii remote falls out live on TV. Then they try to save the show by playing a clip of Killzone 3D and Halo: Reach starts playing on the big screen.

But I doubt anything of that sort will happen, so it's probably safe to say that MS has lost this round.