Topic: Microsoft's Xbox Kinect - Nov 4th 2010

[BlackNMild2k1]

I think we'll go Matrix instead of Holodeck.

It will become a complete virtual experience vs a physical experience in a virtual illusion setting.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Holodecks will require janitors, just sayin'.

The HoloHotel cleaning lady will definitely see what you left behind.

[Stogi]

I honestly would like to see a conducting game like the one in Wii music. But since it can actually recognize my hand gestures and not just the tempo at which I move my hand, it could be interesting to see if I could bring the violins out or silence the percussion.

[Chozo Ghost]

Holodecks will require janitors, just sayin'.

The HoloHotel cleaning lady will definitely see what you left behind.

Not unless the holodeck collects your leavings and then uses it in the replicator to become things like your dinner for the evening. I think that's how it worked in Star Trek.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Mmmmmm every meal is Protein Enriched!!!

[BlackNMild2k1]

LOL
Watch this kids Natal avatar river dance while he tries to play Breakout (~1:07 & ~2:32)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQjfhg2WKPQ


p.s. Holy Rack of Lamb Badman!!

[EasyCure]

Actually, it seems like MGS would be really simple to use with Natal (at least if it is like the original MGS, which is the only one i've played).

yeah, you just sit there and watch. When natal notices your head dip the exclamation chime will sound... **** you i don't care how late this joke is!

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

There's like nowhere to setup this gimmick in the average home.

We don't live like artificial families in homes they don't own created for TV commercials.

[Ymeegod]

"Using a 360 controller with Natal defeats the whole purpose. With both my hands occupied, what am I supposed to do? Kick with my feet? Nod my head? At that point, you're just adding buttons."

Actually, there's alot you can do with it.  In FPS you can control your character's stance instead of trying to bind it all on a controller (like lean left/duck/crouch, ect).  Someone stated hand signals and even secondary functions like reloading and grenades tossing.

Of course in the end it's up to the developers to make something like this work but it is promising.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Microsoft confirms October worldwide launch for Project Natal
http://www.vg247.com/2010/05/11/microsoft-confirms-october-worldwide-launch-for-project-natal/

[Stogi]

Black and white would be sick on Natal.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Looks like MS has hired MTV to cover their Natal performance @ E3

MTV Networks, a division of Viacom (NYSE: VIA, VIA.B), today announced a broad-ranging, first-of-its-kind programming partnership with Microsoft Corp. for Electronic Entertainment Expo 2010 (E3 Expo 2010), the video game industry's leading trade show. For the first time, only MTV Networks will take viewers inside the spectacular controller-free games and entertainment with "The World Premiere of 'Project Natal' for Xbox 360" experience, a spectacular live performance imagined by Cirque du Soleil, and live to the Xbox 360 Media Briefing for game announcements, world premieres and breaking news on the future of the Xbox 360 video game and entertainment system.

"We look forward to making entertainment history again at E3 Expo 2010 and can't think of a better partner than MTV Networks to exclusively share our news, experiences and Cirque du Soleil's amazing creativity with an entirely new audience," said Don Mattrick, senior vice president, Interactive Entertainment Business, Entertainment and Devices Division at Microsoft.

"Project Natal is one of the most exciting new product launches of the year, and MTV Networks is the perfect partner to bring this one-of-a-kind event from Xbox and Cirque du Soleil to its viewers and passionate gamers all across the country," said Rich Eigendorff, chief operating officer, MTV Networks.

[Chozo Ghost]

MTV is selling out to the Man.

[Guitar Smasher]

Is Cirque du Soleil supposed to distract you or something?  I don't understand how they're supposed to be involved.  If Natal was really such an innovative product, I'd like to use the time to show just how and why it's so great.  This is another example of style over substance, but I'll withhold my judgments until the games are shown.

Oh, and is this a hint to a possible Carnival Games port to Natal?

(I realize Cirque du Soleil is nothing like a traditional carnival, so don't bother with that)

[BlackNMild2k1]

MTV is selling out to the Man.

MTV already admitted that the M shouldn't stand for music anymore(not in those words though) since they don't play any, so maybe they are just repurposing that M to stand for Microsoft.

[Shaymin]

Also, the Microsoft conference is on MTV's younger, drunken brother Spike TV.

Hoping the Nintendo conference gets the same treatment but I highly doubt it. It'd be more likely to end up on CBS.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Also, the Microsoft conference is on MTV's younger, drunken brother Spike TV.

Hoping the Nintendo conference gets the same treatment but I highly doubt it. It'd be more likely to end up on Nickelodeon.

fixed

[Chozo Ghost]

MTV is selling out to the Man.

MTV already admitted that the M shouldn't stand for music anymore(not in those words though) since they don't play any, so maybe they are just repurposing that M to stand for Microsoft.

Yeah, its just like how the Scifi channel renamed themselves into Syfy not long after they started airing professional wrestling and other stuff like that which doesn't fit into the scifi category. Its a pet peeve of mine when cable channels don't live up to their names like that...

[King of Twitch]

ALSO WHEN THEY CANCEL MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER, I HATE WHEN CABLE CHANNELS DO THAT TOO

[nickmitch]

And what's with all the live action on the CARTOON Network? Huh? HUH?!

[BlackNMild2k1]

From NeoGAF

So after Microsoft debunked the Saudi-Arabia guy saying it is coming in October, they held a Natal event for Scandinavian press yesterday. Here's what the biggest Danish television and radio channel was told:

- First week of october
- Around 1000 Danish Kroner (170 dollars, but note that everything in Europe costs around 25-40% more then in the US)
- 15 Natal games at launch (first and third party total). Sports games, casual and kids games. No mention of hardcore stuff
- They're doing a world wide Natal tour to kill off any rumor of it being slow and unresponsive, letting the mainstream press play it without any restrictions.

There's apperantly a video coming soon, as they are going to make a story on TV about it.

- http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Indland/Teknologi/2010/05/12/120518.htm

1000 Danish Kroner = 135 € = probably 135$ (they always use the same number)

I can't believe it will be that expensive.

So much for $50 and mass market high adoption pricing.

[TJ Spyke]

Yeah, its just like how the Scifi channel renamed themselves into Syfy not long after they started airing professional wrestling

Yeah, that is not quite accurate with the wrestling part. They started airing ECW on Sci Fi in June 2006, they didn't change their channel's name until July 2009. Even now they only have a couple of non-sci fi programs, the bulk of their lineup is still shows like Stargate Universe and b-grade sci fi movies.

I agree with your general point though. It's like when The Learning Channel became just TLC and started airing mostly crap realty shows like Jon ad Kate Plus 8 rather than educational shows.

[Chozo Ghost]

Yeah, and what's the deal with everything on the so called History channel being about Hitler, Bigfoot, UFOs, Nostradamus, Aliens, etc? Well, Hitler is historical, but what about the rest? Geez.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Swedish Game Sites Say: Natal Cost ~$200
and that matches up with the last price story 2 post up (~$170)

At least three Swedish retailers are listing a price for upcoming Xbox 360 motion controller Project Natal, and it's not good.

While UK sources were telling MCV that the motion controller would run $80, perhaps less, the three Swedish retail sites are all listing the device for 1,499 SEK, which works out to just under a whopping $200. Now keep in mind a $60 game runs nearly $80, but that's still a pretty penny if it's correct.

There's also a very strong possibility that this is a placeholder price. I certainly hoping that's the case, but I don't see a lot of people lining up to buy a peripheral that costs as much as the console that uses it.

Using the game pricing for a base hat would put Natal pricing at about $150 US and that better means it comes with someone to stand up and play the thing for me too.

Between this and the rumored pricing of the Move Controller($60), It's a choice between upgrading your current console for for motion controls for near the price of a Wii or getting into HD motion gaming for about twice the price of a Wii that comes with 2 games.

Hardly seems massmarketable to the casual crowd we though they were aiming for and if true, I expect both of these to fail and next gen to come as expected (no generation extension thanks to motion controls) in 2012 at the latest (for PS360.... I still expect Nintendo to Show off a Wii2H3D in 2011)

edit: Pics of and to the links to the Swedish sites
http://i42.tinypic.com/okzaex.jpg / http://www.game.se/acatalog/NATAL_360_Xbox_360.html
http://i40.tinypic.com/2v19l54.jpg / http://www.webhallen.com/spel/xbox_360/106446-microsoft-natal
http://i41.tinypic.com/2wlwkmq.jpg / http://cdon.se/spel/microsoft_-_natal_%28working_title%29-8564232


edit2: Robbie Bach comment from last year on Natal pricing
http://gizmodo.com/5375477/project-natal-is-gonna-be-priced-like-a-console

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Next gen starts now!