Topic: The Grinder: Hunter The Reckoning + Left4Dead

[BlackNMild2k1]

Sorry, I as thinking of RS2.
selective reading since I've pretty much forgotten RS1 even existed.

[Mop it up]

I forgot about Red Steel 2. Is that still a shooter? I guess I should check the game's thread for more info, I haven't been keeping up on recent things.

[Dirk Temporo]

Red Steel 2 was never a shooter.

[Mop it up]

Still, as in, like the first game. I don't know anything about it.

[ShyGuy]

Red Steel 2 is, as of now, the only first person game to look forward to on the Wii. I may go back and buy COD4 just to fill in the gap.

[Mop it up]

Is Call of Duty 4, is that one World at War? I've heard good things about that one, I might get it if I can find it cheap.

[ShyGuy]

World at War is "Cod5" It is good. Not great, but good.

[ShyGuy]

If this was going to be a Gauntlet 3D or Baldur's Gate Dark Legends I would still want it. The impression I'm getting though is that it is closer Monster Madness. And a game like that isn't worth $50 to me.

[ShyGuy]

Oh gameplay footage for the 360 version if you haven't seen it : http://www.gametrailers.com/game/the-grinder/11459

[Stratos]

Is Call of Duty 4, is that one World at War? I've heard good things about that one, I might get it if I can find it cheap.

COD4 is Modern Warfare. And honestly, once I played that on Wii I lost half of my interest in Grinder. I'm more pumped at the possibility of having MW2 come with WiiSpeak support and local multi than this game before the drastic direction change.

[Ian Sane]

Changing The Grinder from an FPS to a Robotron style game because of the decision to make it multiplatform is kind of like if third parties altered their PS360 games to match up with the lousy Wii spin-off they were coming up with.  So instead of the HD consoles getting Soul Calibur IV they got the same bullshit game the Wii got.  If it doesn't go in the opposite direction why the change here?  Having two different games with the same IP on different consoles is pretty normal this gen.  No one compromises their PS360 version because of the Wii so it shouldn't work in reverse either.

HVS is nothing.  Really, the whole reason that anyone gave a **** about them was because they were designing an exclusive FPS for the Wii.  But that turned out to be an unexceptional title and now they've gone multiplatform and why would anyone care now?  Do they really think a new Smash TV style game is going to light the world on fire?  It'll be in bargain bins a month after release.  And I like those style games, it's just not something people care about these days.  At least focusing on the Wii made these guys a big fish in a small pond so they had the ability to stand out.  Even with The Conduit being so-so, Wii owners were paying attention to this company.  They've just gone and pissed it away.

Though one thing that HVS had demonstrated is that there is a desire for a great Wii FPS.  I assume it is Nintendo's Japan-centric tunnel vision that has prevented them from getting to work on such a thing, because the demand is there.  Maybe Retro's working on it.

[Luigi Dude]

Though one thing that HVS had demonstrated is that there is a desire for a great Wii FPS.  I assume it is Nintendo's Japan-centric tunnel vision that has prevented them from getting to work on such a thing, because the demand is there.  Maybe Retro's working on it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Retro's been working on some kind of new FPS that uses Motion+, that Nintendo is saving for E3.  Considering how amazing Prime 3's controls were, it's almost scary to think what Retro could do with Motion+.  I'd imagine Nintendo will want to show off Retro's new game along with Zelda Wii at E3 in order to show off just how good Motion+ can really be in order to stick it to Microsoft and Sony.

[Stratos]

Though one thing that HVS had demonstrated is that there is a desire for a great Wii FPS.  I assume it is Nintendo's Japan-centric tunnel vision that has prevented them from getting to work on such a thing, because the demand is there.  Maybe Retro's working on it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Retro's been working on some kind of new FPS that uses Motion+, that Nintendo is saving for E3.  Considering how amazing Prime 3's controls were, it's almost scary to think what Retro could do with Motion+.  I'd imagine Nintendo will want to show off Retro's new game along with Zelda Wii at E3 in order to show off just how good Motion+ can really be in order to stick it to Microsoft and Sony.

Well, Retro did help Ubisoft with M+ Support on Red Steel 2. Retro had to have gotten that experience on something. Hopefully it is an FPS.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Well, Retro did help Ubisoft with M+ Support on Red Steel 2. Retro had to have gotten that experience on something. Hopefully it is an FPS.

That actually a very good point. Retro had to have gotten M+ expertise from somewhere if they were the team of choice to send out to a 3rd party dev to help implement the feature into their game.

But Nintendo is very unpredictable sometimes, so it's hard to read the signs and come up with a logical conclusion that plays out as you would think according to all the clues.

[Stratos]

Well, Retro did help Ubisoft with M+ Support on Red Steel 2. Retro had to have gotten that experience on something. Hopefully it is an FPS.

That actually a very good point. Retro had to have gotten M+ expertise from somewhere if they were the team of choice to send out to a 3rd party dev to help implement the feature into their game.

But Nintendo is very unpredictable sometimes, so it's hard to read the signs and come up with a logical conclusion that plays out as you would think according to all the clues.

That's why I said hopefully they were working on an FPS. I was assuming they must be until I realized they could just be working on a new Mario Sports game or something else that used the M+. And knowing Nintendo, they could have just made Retro learn the tech without producing a full game and now they just help other devs understand the tech meaning no Retro game for a long while.

With a wide open second half of the year, I'm really hoping that a Retro title is on the list of Fall releases. Zelda + Retro FPS + Wii Relax could be a sweet lineup. Plus there are a number of forgotten Japanese only titles like Reginleiv and Tact of Magic that could also come out then as well.

[Mop it up]

I'm more pumped at the possibility of having MW2 come with WiiSpeak support and local multi than this game before the drastic direction change.

Isn't Modern Warfare 2 basically the same game? Wouldn't you rather have something new and/or different?

[Ian Sane]

With a wide open second half of the year, I'm really hoping that a Retro title is on the list of Fall releases. Zelda + Retro FPS + Wii Relax could be a sweet lineup.

So along with Metroid and Mario we would get like 4 GOTY candidates from Nintendo in one year?  I'd be cool with that if they could keep that pace up but I know it would just result in a weak 2011.  Better to space this all out.  But then Retro has been working on something for a long time.  It certainly would make sense to be ready soon.  Maybe Retro gets the Christmas slot this year with Zelda being delayed.  Reggie did give a "Zelda will be ready when it's ready" spiel in his IGN interview.

[Stratos]

With a wide open second half of the year, I'm really hoping that a Retro title is on the list of Fall releases. Zelda + Retro FPS + Wii Relax could be a sweet lineup.

So along with Metroid and Mario we would get like 4 GOTY candidates from Nintendo in one year?  I'd be cool with that if they could keep that pace up but I know it would just result in a weak 2011.  Better to space this all out.  But then Retro has been working on something for a long time.  It certainly would make sense to be ready soon.  Maybe Retro gets the Christmas slot this year with Zelda being delayed.  Reggie did give a "Zelda will be ready when it's ready" spiel in his IGN interview.

When does anyone from Nintendo not say that about Zelda releasing though? Hasn't that been the trademark phrase since like Wind Waker or something?

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

WIND WAKER WAS NOT READY.  Hope they finish it, some day.

[Stratos]

WIND WAKER WAS NOT READY.  Hope they finish it, some day.

Wind Waker New Play Control! perhaps?

Waggle that baton in real life now.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Grinder: this game's been LEFT FOR DEAD, AMIRITE?

[ShyGuy]

They should have just called this Hunter:The Reckoning Tri from the get go.

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Wind Waker New Play Control! perhaps?

If they included the content which was cut, such as the two dungeons, I might actually buy that.

[Stratos]

Wind Waker New Play Control! perhaps?

If they included the content which was cut, such as the two dungeons, I might actually buy that.

I'd be all over a DS2 remake of Wind Waker that added the missing dungeons and other stuff. The DS2 could probably emulate the game pretty well from the sounds of things. And having touch controlled gameplay would be interesting to see.

[Mop it up]

I'm against that idea but only because I don't like handhelds.