Author Topic: WATCHMEN (Read 29715 times)

mantidor · « **Reply #75 on:** March 16, 2009, 10:14:03 PM »

Maybe your bias for the comic is howing, because that scene was a bit shocking.

I honestly did expect it to go that way but not because of the long exposure and dialog beforehand, but because it was exactly what I expected from the characters. Its funny, these are probably one of the most complex comic book characters ever written, but they still were somewhat one dimensional.

ThePerm · « **Reply #76 on:** March 17, 2009, 03:24:57 AM »

yeah, maybe it is. I think I did come out pretty comic biased, but i know i wouldn't have read the comic if i saw the movie first.

Arbok · « **Reply #77 on:** March 17, 2009, 07:06:53 PM »

Quote from: ThePerm on March 09, 2009, 07:18:44 PM

That's what happens after going to art school i suppose. You see so much dick you become desensitized to it.

Decades from now, when the internet is an old relic and people are dissecting NWR to see why people posted here, I think this is the quote that will be used to sum ThePerm up.

ThePerm · « **Reply #78 on:** March 17, 2009, 11:47:28 PM »

a typical art school painting by me, my grandma said she liked the painting...

the man on the left is actually named Merlin and the women on the right is named Becky

oh and if your wondering...its there..just obscured by shadows

SirSniffy · « **Reply #79 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:56:38 AM »

That's an amazing painting! Wow!

nickmitch · « **Reply #80 on:** March 18, 2009, 01:22:12 PM »

What are they talking about?

bustin98 · « **Reply #81 on:** March 18, 2009, 01:58:25 PM »

Gravity.

And the weather.

nickmitch · « **Reply #82 on:** March 18, 2009, 02:33:01 PM »

http://instantrimshot.com/

Stogi · « **Reply #83 on:** March 18, 2009, 07:52:41 PM »

So I watched the movie day one and my first reaction was: meh.

The first fight scene was by far my favorite part of the movie. It didn't get any better afterward. It was disappointing, especially after watching the phenomenal trailer over and over again.

mantidor · « **Reply #84 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:04:45 PM »

I don't remember the first fight scene, was it rorschach vs someone?

IceCold · « **Reply #85 on:** March 19, 2009, 01:59:47 AM »

I think he's talking about the Comedian's murder.

mantidor · « **Reply #86 on:** March 19, 2009, 11:18:33 AM »

haha oh right, that just shows for me it wasn't really memorable.

ThePerm · « **Reply #87 on:** March 19, 2009, 03:40:36 PM »

i loved that scene, it was cool because it's not in the book really. How can you forget that scene when the theme song is "unforgettable". I thought the beginning couple of scenes were the best part...

I really can't accurately judge the movie. My friend who i went with me compared it to the fantastic four movie, which should pale in comparison to watchmen. Its just sort of hard to separate it from the source material, which i love so much.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #88 on:** March 19, 2009, 03:43:26 PM »

Well all I have to say is that I LOVED the movie and read half of the graphic novel. The visuals were stunning then again I also enjoyed (though not as much) 300. I'll see about any movie this director does.

Stogi · « **Reply #89 on:** March 19, 2009, 04:20:35 PM »

Yes I was referring to the comedian. That scene was amazing.

My other beef with the movie was that it was half porno. While I thought that chick was really hot (was she in Entourage?), I still wondered to myself "Is this really necessary? Is this the reason that it's almost 3 hours long?"

I like subtlety when it comes to sex scenes. For instance, I just watched a movie where the main character in one scene became infatuated with a ice skater. They locked eyes and they both smiled. The next scene started out with his buddies walking in his building then waiting for the elevator; the door opens and a women holding a pair of ice skates walks out.

You see the difference?

Still, the more I think about the movie, the more I like it. It has alot of fat to chew on, especially when you consider that it's a comic book movie. I like how everything worked out.

Also the scene where Rorcharch dies. I thought it was built up really well. I especially like the line "What's one more body among a foundation?" I think it was well done. Still, I can see what you mean Ian, Perm; though I think it was the entire movie that was slow.

mantidor · « **Reply #90 on:** March 19, 2009, 11:11:17 PM »

Long sex scenes might work out in very limited scenarios in films, but not only it requires very special stories and situations, it requires really great actors, and those two simply aren't.

ThePerm · « **Reply #91 on:** March 19, 2009, 11:34:06 PM »

yeah that sex scene was not unlike the sex scene on matrix 3...just no drama to it, gratuitous. I just watch Top Gun for the first time about 2 weeks before Watchmen, there's a sex scene, then as far as shocked..Goose died! I didn't think Patrick Wilson was a bad actor at all, compared to his role in lakeview terrace he was a perfect daniel dreiberg. Malin Ackerman was just eye candy, i remember in the theater i went to piss, and came back just in time for them to start their sex scene. You know who would have been better? Jennifer Carpenter..i think she could have pulled it off. or maybe a young Kathleen Turner or Faye Dunaway, but of course thats not possible.

speaking of Faye Dunaway, for anyone who has seen watchmen not read the comic, and seen the movie Network..watchmen the book is at that level of intelligence. It also reminds me of Citizen Kane.

D_Average · « **Reply #92 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:01:00 PM »

I thought this movie was fantastic. Its rare to see such moral ambiguity in such a big movie. One of the best super hero movies I've ever see, easily.

While most of the critics have panned it, at least MovieBob agrees with me.

SirSniffy · « **Reply #93 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:00:31 AM »

Quote from: D_Average on March 20, 2009, 08:01:00 PM

Its rare to see such moral ambiguity in such a big movie.

This is probably what made me like the movie...the idea that humans are not entirely good or evil and that life is about choices...we make them, for whatever reason, and then we have to deal with the consequences. People always fault DC characters for being one dimensional or overpowered, but those critics should consider the Watchmen.

Kairon · « **Reply #94 on:** March 21, 2009, 05:54:43 PM »

Quote from: Kashogi Y. Stogi on March 19, 2009, 04:20:35 PM

I like subtlety when it comes to sex scenes. For instance, I just watched a movie where the main character in one scene became infatuated with a ice skater. They locked eyes and they both smiled. The next scene started out with his buddies walking in his building then waiting for the elevator; the door opens and a women holding a pair of ice skates walks out.

Dude! I just watched that movie! It made me overcome my irrational dislike of Sean Penn!

Actually, while subtlety works, if you're going to actually have a sex scene at least have it mean something. I got the sense there wasn't a lot of thought put into the Watchman's scenes, and I actually discussed this with my younger brother after the movie. One of my friends later told me wished there wasn't so much soft-core porn in it.

Maybe I haven't given the film enough credit, but I felt the sex scenes were gratuitous in Watchmen, ESPECIALLY since it was the second time that night it had happened! I've actually got nothing against explicit, but it has to at least have some significance. Cold Mountain I also really didn't like the love-making scene, just totally disjointed.

Kairon · « **Reply #95 on:** March 21, 2009, 05:59:04 PM »

Quote from: SirSniffy on March 21, 2009, 11:00:31 AM

Quote from: D_Average on March 20, 2009, 08:01:00 PM
Its rare to see such moral ambiguity in such a big movie.
This is probably what made me like the movie...the idea that humans are not entirely good or evil and that life is about choices...we make them, for whatever reason, and then we have to deal with the consequences. People always fault DC characters for being one dimensional or overpowered, but those critics should consider the Watchmen.

Haha, the more I think about it, the more I have to agree with Ozy, and the more I know I have a friend who would totally be on the side of Rorschach.

ThePerm · « **Reply #96 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:13:16 PM »

in the book it has significance. Nite Owl is an impotent wuss, after they fight some crime he doesn't feel so powerless, and then he can get it up. That part was not so much in the movie i think(im not totally sure, i went to go pee)

Kairon · « **Reply #97 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:29:55 PM »

Huh, makes more sense now, but in the movie, I sorta missed their very tiny hints about that.

Plugabugz · « **Reply #98 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:17:18 PM »

If you muted the volume and watched it, it veered interestingly close to being porn.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #99 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:22:11 PM »

The gratuitous sex scenes were the only parts I felt were unnecessary in the film. Like others said they didn't really seem to fit.

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Author Topic: WATCHMEN (Read 29715 times)