Topic: Punch Out!! Rated Everyone 10+

[Chessa]

The latest Wii iteration of the series has already crossed the desk of the ESRB.
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=17804

 Earlier this week, the ESRB rated the upcoming Wii title, Punch-Out!! Everyone 10 and up due to Cartoon Violence and Comic Mischief. Punch-Out!! boasts a cast of colorful and outrageous characters. Cartoonish boxing scenes are presented in a comical manner where characters flex their pecs and burp out loud. Although there are boxing moves unique to Punch-Out!! such as a smash to the head and other "slapstick" techniques, standard boxing moves, including jabs, hooks and uppercuts are still present.    

While most of these depictions are innocent enough, the boxers do take physical damage that is visible to players. The boxing characters develop bruises and bumps on their faces where they have been hit, along with some boxing moves that can send opponents flying to the other side of the boxing ring.    

Though Nintendo has yet to announce an official release date for the title, hopefully the ESRB rating of the game will prompt Nintendo to reveal the release date soon.

[Ian Sane]

I know Nintendo isn't so keen on releasing as much info about games anymore but isn't this taking it a bit too far?  The game is complete enough to get rated but we still don't even know much about it.  There is some value in the fans having SOME information to get hyped up over.  For example who is going to pre-order a game that has no release date, virtually no info revealed about it, only a handful of screenshots that are taken from like one video, no previews on any game sites or in any magazines, no POP material at the store promoting it and no ads on TV?  If this wasn't an established series I doubt there would be an interest in it at all.

So is "Punch-Out!!" the official name then?

[LuigiHann]

Did the ESRB rating materials mention anything about ludicrous racial stereotypes?

[DAaaMan64]

Did the ESRB rating materials mention anything about ludicrous racial stereotypes?

YA AND HOW AWESOME THEY ARE

[Rize]

I have a bad feeling that this game will have little to no new characters and play like a slowed down version of its predecessors (since you won't be able to be as quick or precise with motion control as we were with button presses).

If only they'd make a proper DS sequel to the series.

[Jonnyboy117]

So I guess there's no blood.  (Expected, and probably for the best.)

[GoldenPhoenix]

So I guess there's no blood.  (Expected, and probably for the best.)

I would be very sad if people expected and wanted blood in a punch out game.

[AV]

 

I have a bad feeling that this game will have little to no new characters and play like a slowed down version of its predecessors (since you won't be able to be as quick or precise with motion control as we were with button presses).

If only they'd make a proper DS sequel to the series.

That's really assuming allot. Wiimotionplus will probably be used and it should work flawlessly. Even so I would expect a 'retro' control style for the game. The game is going to be updated don't assume its going to be garbage (aka not a proper update) already with only a teaser trailer up. If Metroid Prime was a proper successor it would have been 3d plat-forming like mario. Give them the benefit of the doubt. Casual gamers don't care about Punch-Out this is a hardcore game.

[vudu]

Croissants > Blood

This is a fact that you cannot debate.

[Ian Sane]

I haven't seen any screenshots of new characters for this Punch-Out!!  That is suspicious.  I can see why Rize is concerned.  I've been concerned about that.

It is also being handled by a Canadian dev team that had nothing to do with the previous series.  It's not a sure-thing slam dunk.  The fact that Metroid Prime turned out so great despite the completely different dev team from a completely different continent and culture is VERY exceptional.

[Mop it up]

I'm not surprised by the E10 rating, it seems like every game released these days with mild violence but no blood or gore gets that rating.
What I am surprised about is that SSBBrawl still got a T rating. There's no blood, no gore, no vulgarities, no crude humour, no nudity, no drug use... why a T rating?

[GoldenPhoenix]

Next Level Games has been a very good developer working on the Striker series along with one WiiWare's best games, Jungle Speed. Nintendo should be able to get quite a bit out of them.

[D_Average]

So I guess there's no blood.  (Expected, and probably for the best.)

I would be very sad if people expected and wanted blood in a punch out game.

This game was a day one buy for me.  But now that I know there is no blood, its a rental at best.

[Morari]

What I am surprised about is that SSBBrawl still got a T rating. There's no blood, no gore, no vulgarities, no crude humour, no nudity, no drug use... why a T rating?

There is crude humor. His name is Wario.

[Mop it up]

What I am surprised about is that SSBBrawl still got a "T" rating. There's no blood, no gore, no vulgarities, no crude humour, no nudity, no drug use... why a "T" rating?

There is crude humor. His name is Wario.

Hm, yes. However, Wario is in Mario Strikers Charged with his fart attack and all that, as well as other things like Waluigi and certain sidekicks performing crotch-chops. Yet that game received the "E10" rating, so Brawl's "T" rating is still a mystery.

Fun fact: Mario Strikers Charged is the only Mario game to receive a rating other than "E".

[Kairon]

I know Nintendo isn't so keen on releasing as much info about games anymore but isn't this taking it a bit too far?  The game is complete enough to get rated but we still don't even know much about it.  There is some value in the fans having SOME information to get hyped up over.  For example who is going to pre-order a game that has no release date, virtually no info revealed about it, only a handful of screenshots that are taken from like one video, no previews on any game sites or in any magazines, no POP material at the store promoting it and no ads on TV?  If this wasn't an established series I doubt there would be an interest in it at all.

I don't think Nintendo cares about pre-orders Iansane. The Nintendo brand is strong enough that not only do consumers gravitate to the games even months after release, but retailers probably don't need much convincing to stock the games even if pre-order numbers at GameStop are low.

[TheYoungerPlumber]

Brawl had swords and guns. Boxing is a sport. Explains the E10 vs T imo.

[NovaQ]

I know Nintendo isn't so keen on releasing as much info about games anymore but isn't this taking it a bit too far?  The game is complete enough to get rated but we still don't even know much about it.  There is some value in the fans having SOME information to get hyped up over.  For example who is going to pre-order a game that has no release date, virtually no info revealed about it, only a handful of screenshots that are taken from like one video, no previews on any game sites or in any magazines, no POP material at the store promoting it and no ads on TV?  If this wasn't an established series I doubt there would be an interest in it at all.

I don't think Nintendo cares about pre-orders Iansane. The Nintendo brand is strong enough that not only do consumers gravitate to the games even months after release, but retailers probably don't need much convincing to stock the games even if pre-order numbers at GameStop are low.

I agree. And maybe Nintendo are gravitating more toward longer term sales that are spurred on by word-of-mouth? I'm not sure if it's the best marketing strategy for a game like this (did it help or harm Metroid Prime 3?), but it seems to be what they're going for. At any rate, I'm excited to hear that the game is coming out soon!

[NWR_Neal]

This is my most anticipated game. If this sucks, I will be upset. I don't think it will.

[Mop it up]

Brawl had swords and guns. Boxing is a sport. Explains the E10 vs T imo.

Lego Star Wars has swords and that's an "E10" rating.
I can't think of a game offhand which has guns and got lower than a "T" rating though, so maybe that's it. I guess I have Snake to blame for that.

A bit more on topic: More game titles should have exclamation points in them. The last one I can remember is Mario Kart Double Dash!!, which was released over four years ago. Although there isn't a game titled simply "Punch-Out!!" as the first was titled Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!/Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream and the sequel was titled Super Punch-Out!!, I still think they should add a subtitle of some kind. They can't throw the word "Wii" in there as that would lead people to believe it is part of the "Wii" series, so... I suggest "Punch-Out!! Out to Punch".

[GoldenPhoenix]

Brawl had swords and guns. Boxing is a sport. Explains the E10 vs T imo.

Lego Star Wars has swords and that's an "E10" rating.
I can't think of a game offhand which has guns and got lower than a "T" rating though, so maybe that's it. I guess I have Snake to blame for that.

A bit more on topic: More game titles should have exclamation points in them. The last one I can remember is Mario Kart Double Dash!!, which was released over four years ago. Although there isn't a game titled simply "Punch-Out!!" as the first was titled Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!/Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream and the sequel was titled Super Punch-Out!!, I still think they should add a subtitle of some kind. They can't throw the word "Wii" in there as that would lead people to believe it is part of the "Wii" series, so... I suggest "Punch-Out!! Out to Punch".

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I think SSB:B got a T rating because it had guns, and the characters were "realistic", while a game like Legos, they are well, Legos. Also when you have snake snapping people's necks, and placing land minds around it is hard to keep it a lower rating.

In regards to Punch-Out's name, I am pretty sure it will be called Punch-Out Wii. That is what they did with Mario Kart and I think that is what they will do with Punch-Out.

[Mop it up]

Whatever they do I hope they keep the exclamation points as that's what gives the title its personality.

How About Punch-Out W!!?

[S-U-P-E-R]

Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!

[S-U-P-E-R]

What a waste. Why can't it be Mike Tyson's Punch Out?

You're sweet. I'm going to make sure you kiss me good with those big lips. I'm gonna make you my girlfriend.

I want to rip out his heart and feed it to him [Lennox Lewis]. I want to kill people. I want to rip their stomachs out and eat their children.

[He] called me a ‘rapist’ and a ‘recluse.’ I’m not a recluse.

One morning I woke up and found my favorite pigeon, Julius, had died I was devastated and was gonna use his crate as my stickball bat to honor him. I left the crate on my stoop and went in to get something and I returned to see the sanitation man put the crate into the crusher. I rushed him and caught him flush on the temple with a titanic right hand he was out cold, convulsing on the floor like a infantile retard.

**** you, you ho! Come and say it to my face. I'll **** you in the ass in front of everybody. You bitch... come on, you bitch, you scared coward. You're not man enough to **** with me. You can't last two minutes in my world,  bitch! Look, you're scared now, you ho, scared like a little white pussy. scared of the real man. I'll **** you till you love me, ******!

That make the best game

[NWR_pap64]

You know, people are worried that this might be a remake of the NES game rather than a full blown sequel, because the teaser trailer showed Glass Joe, King Hippo and Von Kaiser, and the ESRB description mentions possible returning characters.

Well, I think the game could include both classic characters and new ones.

Look at Street Fighter IV. Some screens make it look like a remake of Street Fighter II, especially since it features the original cast as well as "remake" of classic stages. But it includes new characters as well as some characters from the "Alpha" series.

I can't say for sure if this will happen, but if it doesn't I think I know why.

Going back to Street Fighter, one of the reasons many fans didn't feel at home with "Street Fighter III" is because only a few of the old characters returned and the cast was completely new. While some were creative they didn't feel as nostalgic as the classic characters.

You could say that Super Punch Out suffered from the same problem. While some fighters returned the whole cast was new, right down to the controllable fighter. Like in SF III, these characters were creative (some were actually ripped from the old arcade game) they didn't feel as fun as the classic cast.

I think that's what Nintendo and Next Level Games wants to accomplish with Punch-Out Wii. They know that people have more memories of the classic NES game than the arcade and Super NES game combined, so in a way it makes sense that if the franchise is going to see a revival the characters should come along for the ride.

In SF IV, the characters might be familiar, but they look, act and feel different from the older games. The new technology has enhanced their traits, making them brand new but still being the same.

Punch-Out Wii might look to do the same. The classic characters have different reactions and expressions (french bagels drop out of Glass Joe when he is defeated) but still retain certain traits (King Hippo's pants still fall down, revealing a weak spot).

So the game could be a mix of the old (characters, themes, concepts) and the new (graphics, controls, gameplay). And I might be crazy to say that this is what will make the game a winner, even if it isn't the follow up we've been waiting for 10 plus years.