Topic: World Tour Drum Kit & Guitar Coming Soon

[Halbred]

This is good news for gamers who had to, oh, I don't know, take back their band kit because the drums didn't f*cking work.

Ahem. Sorry.

Anyway, Activision is releasing 1st-party guitars and drums for World Tour on February 15th, though no price points were announced. My hope is that the drums FUNCTION PROPERLY. If they do, I'll be buying them.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Did you see the price on them though?

99.99 For Drums
59.99 For Guitar

[UltimatePartyBear]

You can get the Guitar Bundle for only ten bucks more at TRU this week, too.

[Spinnzilla]

This is good news for gamers who had to, oh, I don't know, take back their band kit because the drums didn't f*cking work.

Lol.  Tuner Kit, silly.

[Halbred]

I don't know what "tuner kit" means. It's too late anyway.

$100 for the drum kit? You're effing kidding me.

[Spinnzilla]

It was a program with usb cord that fixed the sensitivity on drums.  It was available since day one.

[Flames_of_chaos]

I don't know what "tuner kit" means. It's too late anyway.

$100 for the drum kit? You're effing kidding me.

The tuner kit is to adjust the sensitivity of the drum controller because people had issues with the sensitivity.

[Stratos]

My drums worked fine that I got w/ the kit for Christmas. Though one of the drumstick holders broke after someone played way too hard on them.

Though you'd think the Wii ones would be cheaper considering that they use the Wii remote for a lot of the controllers functions. Pity.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Why would Activision/Red Octane give special treatment to a console.

[EasyCure]

It was a program with usb cord that fixed the sensitivity on drums.  It was available since day one.

That.

It's funny because i ordered for that free usb/midi cable but never downloaded the program becuase after playing the drums more (waiting for it to be delivered) they just kind fixed themselves.

[Stratos]

Why would Activision/Red Octane give special treatment to a console.

I'm assuming that you were referring to my post so that is how I am responding to it.

For Wii the GH guitar is basically a $100 controller and the drums are a $140 piece. Since it uses a Wiimote that is housing a number of the electronics that help run the controller there is less technology you are buying in a Wii guitar or drum kit. Therefore it would require less materials to make and should theoretically cost less.

Rock Band guitars and drums are separate, complete controllers. They can run without the need of a Wiimote.

I don't see how making the controller price reflect the cost of manufacture would be special treatment.

[UltimatePartyBear]

Costs go back up a bit for not sharing the same molds as the other consoles' controllers, plus the extra connectors and other bits, but it's questionable whether the difference is enough to overcome the savings from using the Wii remote's accelerometer and Bluetooth.  It doesn't matter, though.  It's a matter of marketing.  The price of a thing is never determined as simply as a formula like Price = Cost + $X.  It has more to do with perceived value to the customer, and since the toy guitar is as crucial to the game on the Wii as it is on any other system, the toy guitar has the same perceived value to the Wii customer as it does to the Xbox customer.

[Morari]

It has more to do with perceived value to the customer, and since the toy guitar is as crucial to the game on the Wii as it is on any other system, the toy guitar has the same perceived value to the Wii customer as it does to the Xbox customer.

No it doesn't. The things are still overpriced, whether through perception or not.

[BranDonk Kong]

They should definitely cost $40 less on the Wii, the whole game should cost $80 less at that.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Why would Activision/Red Octane give special treatment to a console.

I'm assuming that you were referring to my post so that is how I am responding to it.

For Wii the GH guitar is basically a $100 controller and the drums are a $140 piece. Since it uses a Wiimote that is housing a number of the electronics that help run the controller there is less technology you are buying in a Wii guitar or drum kit. Therefore it would require less materials to make and should theoretically cost less.

Rock Band guitars and drums are separate, complete controllers. They can run without the need of a Wiimote.

I don't see how making the controller price reflect the cost of manufacture would be special treatment.

I know that and I was making a sarcastic remark because Activision would make money on the smallest things and wouldn't care because the same instrument on competing systems are the same price. Activision can always make the excuse that they are using Nintendo's standard since the Wii remote is a modular controller. Of course I agree with you that it's BS since technically the GH controllers on Wii can be considered modified Classic Controllers and I wouldn't be surprised if they are exactly that. And also they carry the disadvantage that to have a full band you need 4 Wii remotes while Rock Band on Wii you only need 1 Wii remote for the full band(singer for menu navigation ).

[Stratos]

Why would Activision/Red Octane give special treatment to a console.

I'm assuming that you were referring to my post so that is how I am responding to it.

For Wii the GH guitar is basically a $100 controller and the drums are a $140 piece. Since it uses a Wiimote that is housing a number of the electronics that help run the controller there is less technology you are buying in a Wii guitar or drum kit. Therefore it would require less materials to make and should theoretically cost less.

Rock Band guitars and drums are separate, complete controllers. They can run without the need of a Wiimote.

I don't see how making the controller price reflect the cost of manufacture would be special treatment.

I know that and I was making a sarcastic remark because Activision would make money on the smallest things and wouldn't care because the same instrument on competing systems are the same price. Activision can always make the excuse that they are using Nintendo's standard since the Wii remote is a modular controller. Of course I agree with you that it's BS since technically the GH controllers on Wii can be considered modified Classic Controllers and I wouldn't be surprised if they are exactly that. And also they carry the disadvantage that to have a full band you need 4 Wii remotes while Rock Band on Wii you only need 1 Wii remote for the full band(singer for menu navigation ).

Ah, sorry. Stupid internets like to filter out sarcasm so I tend to miss it if it isn't terribly blatant.
I do hate the fact that you need a Wiimote for each instrument because I only have 2 right now. Though I do love the design of it, I just hat the fact that I don't have 4 'motes.
Luckily when I am staying in Washington near my folks I can borrow theirs for any gaming party events.
I'd get more but I want to hold out for when they release the Motion Plus since they plan to sell those w/ the Wiimotes (and I hope at a discount).

[UltimatePartyBear]

It has more to do with perceived value to the customer, and since the toy guitar is as crucial to the game on the Wii as it is on any other system, the toy guitar has the same perceived value to the Wii customer as it does to the Xbox customer.

No it doesn't. The things are still overpriced, whether through perception or not.

In retrospect, that was a bad choice of words.  I meant value to the customer from the producer's perspective, and I was trying to avoid any marketing lingo.  The point is that there's a major disconnect between per unit cost and asking price, and no matter what the cheesy salesmen on TV say, they never simply pass the savings on to you.