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No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« on: January 16, 2009, 05:07:46 PM »
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=205988

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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2009, 05:15:47 PM »
Guess Sony has to rely on Killzone 2 to carry them.
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2009, 05:27:46 PM »
Wii port confirmed.
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2009, 05:30:17 PM »
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2009, 05:55:44 PM »
Wow, FFXIII is becoming the Duke Nukem Forever of RPGs.
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2009, 06:04:37 PM »
Wow, FFXIII is becoming the Duke Nukem Forever of RPGs.

It would be funny if Duke Nukem Forever was released before it.

Anyway I get the feeling this game is having some development problems.
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2009, 06:14:28 PM »
FF13 is the next Geist-PD0-Kameo hybrid.
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2009, 06:28:33 PM »
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2009, 03:57:45 PM »
Hmm..  This isn't new.  This was stated like e3 last year.  FFXIII was going hit Japan in winter of 09 and 2nd quarter for NA.   Not sure about Euro but it's most likely winter 10'.


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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2009, 04:39:56 PM »
So it's like pouring detergent in an already-opened wound.  Awesome.
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2009, 05:09:30 PM »
Can it haters.  It will still be glorious!
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2009, 05:17:29 PM »
This is nothing more than flamebait. 

It's sad that these people jump and down when bad news happen (again this isn't even new==it was always stated for 2010). 

Do you want me to make new threads about all the games that won't make 2009 for the WII?  *cough* Zelda *cough*


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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2009, 07:43:19 PM »
This is nothing more than flamebait. 

It's sad that these people jump and down when bad news happen (again this isn't even new==it was always stated for 2010). 

Do you want me to make new threads about all the games that won't make 2009 for the WII?  *cough* Zelda *cough*



Didn't think Zelda Wii was delayed a bajillion times. And has shown signs of development hell not to mention being rushed over to another system since it was going to come out on the Titanic of gaming systems.  Which was especially neat since it was only possible on the PS3.

Sure go ahead create lots of threads on Wi games that won't make it in 2009, and then the moderators can close them. That would be fun!

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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2009, 08:18:21 PM »
I'm so glad you completely MISSED THE FREAKING POINT.  I don't go around and make totally worthless flamers posts-- like this is one is. 

Delaying games is nothing new (fact if you're a nintendo fan delays is expected) and again even though you don't like FF's charm doesn't mean apply to the millions who love "watching" their games as you so cleverly put. 

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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2009, 08:51:22 PM »
I'm so glad you completely MISSED THE FREAKING POINT.  I don't go around and make totally worthless flamers posts-- like this is one is.

But GP didn't miss the point when you specifically made a poor comparison to Zelda...The fact is, FFXIII is in development hell, and it all boils down to really crappy planning and managing on Squenix's part (be it due to the console or other reasons, it doesn't really matter)...
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2009, 09:42:28 PM »
Final Fantasy XIII is taking forever because Square Enix thought it was a good idea to develop 3 related games at the same time, 2 of which are being developed using an engine they built themselves specifically for these games. On top of that, think about all the games Tetsuya Nomura, Yoshinori Kitase and co. were/are directly responsible for in addition to the FF13 compilation which include, but aren't limited to, Dissidia, The World Ends with You, and 3 Kingdom Hearts games. Final Fantasy XIII and Versus XIII just happen to be the larger, more complicated titles of the bunch.

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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2009, 09:50:32 PM »
Final Fantasy XIII is taking forever because Square Enix thought it was a good idea to develop 3 related games at the same time, 2 of which are being developed using an engine they built themselves specifically for these games.

As far as I know, Versus was put on hold quite a while ago (until FFXIII nears completion) and its team members were sent to work on the main title...
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2009, 10:18:50 PM »
As far as I know, Versus was put on hold quite a while ago (until FFXIII nears completion) and its team members were sent to work on the main title...
That was debunked by Square Enix more than 6 months ago... And even if it wasn't, think of how long they would have been trying to develop 3 related games and 1700 others games at the same time. Poor time management on their part.

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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2009, 11:12:25 PM »
I'm so glad you completely MISSED THE FREAKING POINT.  I don't go around and make totally worthless flamers posts-- like this is one is. 

Delaying games is nothing new (fact if you're a nintendo fan delays is expected) and again even though you don't like FF's charm doesn't mean apply to the millions who love "watching" their games as you so cleverly put. 

Who the heck are you? All I know you are a grumpy person that apparently needs a hug. BTW I loved FF2 so I think I know what FF charm is, all I know is that the series has turned into a glorified movie where you spend more time watching things like magic effects (which gets old really fast) and overly long CGI movies. So please preface your comment about "FF charm" with every FF after FF7 the RPG equivalent of the current MGS games which focus more on cinema aka, the "next generation" Final Fantasy.

I know you thought you were being clever with your asinine comparison to Zelda Wii, but the fact remains it is a stupid comparison. We don't even have an official announcement of Zelda Wii. FF has been delayed and pushed back for quite awhile now and with it moving to 360 shows me they are having troubles or doubts of some sort with how it is going (My guess it is more financial). How long has it been since it was officially announced? Like 3 years ago? I remember their talk years ago about how it could only be done on the PS3 with their fancy graphical engine.
You can call this thread "flame bait" (How I love the anti-fanboi fanboi trolls), but it is a legitimate point to put into question if this is a train wreck that is just waiting to happen, if not from a gameplay standpoint, but a financial standpoint.
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2009, 11:13:19 PM »
As far as I know, Versus was put on hold quite a while ago (until FFXIII nears completion) and its team members were sent to work on the main title...
That was debunked by Square Enix more than 6 months ago... And even if it wasn't, think of how long they would have been trying to develop 3 related games and 1700 others games at the same time. Poor time management on their part.

You forgot moving it to the 360 as well. That had to put them into a bind.
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2009, 11:19:03 PM »
As far as I know, Versus was put on hold quite a while ago (until FFXIII nears completion) and its team members were sent to work on the main title...
That was debunked by Square Enix more than 6 months ago... And even if it wasn't, think of how long they would have been trying to develop 3 related games and 1700 others games at the same time. Poor time management on their part.

Well Squenix didn't have much trouble putting out a bunch of (console) games a year last generation, so clearly they are doing something very wrong... =\
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2009, 12:30:56 AM »
Well Squenix didn't have much trouble putting out a bunch of (console) games a year last generation, so clearly they are doing something very wrong... =\
This is also the first generation they're developing games for everything whereas last generation they focused primarily on PS2 and dabbled in GBA development... and that 1 GCN game. Square Enix is still putting out multiple games a year, it just seems like they're taking on more projects than they have before.

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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2009, 12:39:49 AM »
They're making the PS3 version for Japan first, and then apparently localizing it and doing the 360 immediately after that.

http://www.edge-online.com/news/final-fantasy-xiii-drops-2009-western-release

"Square Enix had previously stated that no work will go into porting FFXIII to the Xbox 360 until after the game is launched in Japan, with both editions not undergoing localization until after that date.

FFXIII remains a PS3 exclusive in Japan."
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2009, 03:57:17 AM »
They're making the PS3 version for Japan first, and then apparently localizing it and doing the 360 immediately after that.

http://www.edge-online.com/news/final-fantasy-xiii-drops-2009-western-release

"Square Enix had previously stated that no work will go into porting FFXIII to the Xbox 360 until after the game is launched in Japan, with both editions not undergoing localization until after that date.

FFXIII remains a PS3 exclusive in Japan."

Maybe I don't know much about game development, but wouldn't they need to start porting it over to 360 ASAP if they wish to get it out in a timely fashion? Either way I stand corrected on the 360 aspect of my post, though I do feel things are getting way too expensive for them which is why they are bringing it out to the 360 in the U.S.
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Re: No FF13 in 2009 for the west
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2009, 01:25:06 AM »
For sure, bringing it to the 360 is a clear cost-recouping move.  Remember that they announced the game for PS3 way before the current system wars shook out, and the landscape looked way different back then.

In the article KDR posted above, they said at least April 2010.  I'm assuming that's for the PS3 version, which would only require straight script translation and localization (i.e. no code porting, so less programming and testing involved).  Square-Enix's 2008 fiscal year ends March 31, 2009, so it looks like their plan is to release FFXIII for both PS3 and 360 in the same fiscal year (which makes sense, because there's no reason why you'd want to split the revenue from both games across two fiscal years).

I'd expect the 360 version to be released in the fall (maybe September/October).  I figure it'll take a couple of months to port, and then probably six months to test.  Of course, this is all just my guessing.  ;-)
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