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Sony axes 16,000 jobs and shuts down plants
« on: December 09, 2008, 07:45:19 PM »
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article5311385.ece

Sony is to slash more than 16,000 permanent and part-time jobs from its worldwide electronics division and raise prices for its gadgets in the face of dwindling consumer spending.

The draconian restructuring scheme, which will also see Sony shedding an unspecified number of “unprofitable or non-core” divisions from its sprawling portfolio, is the biggest of its sort announced in Asia since the financial crisis took hold of the world economy.

It is, however expected to set the tone for similar moves by Sony’s domestic and regional rivals, and even the likes of Samsung and LG, which have been less damaged by currency -related carnage.


I think it is very possible that Sony may soon decide to get out of the video gaming business. The PS3 is costing them badly, and with the economy being as bad as it is they may have to either sell the Playstation line to another company (perhaps Microsoft), or perhaps spin it off into a new entity.
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Re: Sony axes 16,000 jobs and shuts down plants
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2008, 07:47:45 PM »
I have an idea. Make a console that MAKES PROFIT.

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Re: Sony axes 16,000 jobs and shuts down plants
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2008, 07:50:51 PM »
I have an idea. Make a console that MAKES PROFIT.

But that would mean stripping out Blu-ray and HD, and Sony's out of touch hot-shot executives have egos that are too big to let those things go.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2008, 08:06:26 PM »
Actually, I've heard that none of these cuts are really on the videogame side of things?
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Re: Sony axes 16,000 jobs and shuts down plants
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2008, 08:07:31 PM »
I think it is very possible that Sony may soon decide to get out of the video gaming business. The PS3 is costing them badly, and with the economy being as bad as it is they may have to either sell the Playstation line to another company (perhaps Microsoft), or perhaps spin it off into a new entity.

Wrong, Lindy says that MS and Sony won't go anywhere, they care too much about gaming. ;)
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Re: Sony axes 16,000 jobs and shuts down plants
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2008, 08:10:07 PM »
I think it is very possible that Sony may soon decide to get out of the video gaming business. The PS3 is costing them badly, and with the economy being as bad as it is they may have to either sell the Playstation line to another company (perhaps Microsoft), or perhaps spin it off into a new entity.

Wrong, Lindy says that MS and Sony won't go anywhere, they care too much about gaming. ;)

Eh, I don't really think the Playstation brand will die...However, I do foresee some new heads taking control of the videogame division, and most likely a new outlook on how to take the next generation of consoles...
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2008, 08:13:21 PM »
I think it is very possible that Sony may soon decide to get out of the video gaming business. The PS3 is costing them badly, and with the economy being as bad as it is they may have to either sell the Playstation line to another company (perhaps Microsoft), or perhaps spin it off into a new entity.

Wrong, Lindy says that MS and Sony won't go anywhere, they care too much about gaming. ;)

Eh, I don't really think the Playstation brand will die...However, I do foresee some new heads taking control of the videogame division, and most likely a new outlook on how to take the next generation of consoles...

I hope so, and maybe they can actually focus on creating industry changing games. Right now Sony has no recognizable franchise that people drool after like Halo or Nintendo's various ones. It is quite sad actually considering how long they've been in the industry now.
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2008, 08:15:10 PM »
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Actually, I've heard that none of these cuts are really on the videogame side of things?

Well they certainly aren't going to say so outright, Karion.  I don't forsee Sony getting out of videogames, but consoles... maybe.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2008, 08:18:50 PM »
I hope so, and maybe they can actually focus on creating industry changing games. Right now Sony has no recognizable franchise that people drool after like Halo or Nintendo's various ones. It is quite sad actually considering how long they've been in the industry now.

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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2008, 08:36:06 PM »
I hope so, and maybe they can actually focus on creating industry changing games. Right now Sony has no recognizable franchise that people drool after like Halo or Nintendo's various ones. It is quite sad actually considering how long they've been in the industry now.

What's this? No love for sackboy?

As we have seen Sackboy was a Sackdud sales wise. Not to mention I'm talking about established and anticipated franchises which Sony has none of. Who is their mascot? Heck if I know. What is their big first party franchise? Beats me. What game showcases Sony's soul? I sure don't see one.
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2008, 08:39:42 PM »
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Actually, I've heard that none of these cuts are really on the videogame side of things?

Well they certainly aren't going to say so outright, Karion.  I don't forsee Sony getting out of videogames, but consoles... maybe.

Agreed. This was actually how it used to be before Sony backstabbed Nintendo and released the original playstation. I'm not sure what the games were back then, but Sony started off as a 3rd party developer. They also made some components for the SNES, but that was about it. If they got out of the hardware business they'd just be like how they used to be, or how SEGA is now.
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2008, 08:42:57 PM »
Sony's too hardcore for mascots!
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2008, 08:43:25 PM »
As we have seen Sackboy was a Sackdud sales wise. Not to mention I'm talking about established and anticipated franchises which Sony has none of. Who is their mascot? Heck if I know.

I don't know who it is now, but I do know who it used to be:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTi5EaocGaY


Which is pretty lame, because now Crash has whored himself out to the competitors by appearing on their consoles. At least Mario only sticks to Nintendo hardware like a loyal mascot should.
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2008, 08:50:22 PM »
I do think one of the main reasons why Sony is struggling is because they've relied too much on "me too" syndrome with the majority of their bigger games. They've relied on trends far too much and it has hurt them when it comes to differentiating themselves from MS or Nintendo.
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2008, 09:01:28 PM »
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article5311385.ece

raise prices for its gadgets in the face of dwindling consumer spending.

So the PS3 is going to be even MORE expensive?
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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2008, 09:23:51 PM »
PS3 sales aren't helping them, but they've long said they're losing money on their LCD TVs as well.  Right now Sony is like Microsoft without the cash cow that is the Windows OS.  Actually, the PS3 is the least of their worries right now, because they aren't making money with the products that they SHOULD be cleaning up with.
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2008, 09:28:11 PM »
enough talk about mascots, this is how we got here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqzB_nJMMOk
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2008, 09:30:39 PM »
As we have seen Sackboy was a Sackdud sales wise. Not to mention I'm talking about established and anticipated franchises which Sony has none of. Who is their mascot? Heck if I know.

I don't know who it is now, but I do know who it used to be:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTi5Eaoc***

Which is pretty lame, because now Crash has whored himself out to the competitors by appearing on their consoles. At least Mario only sticks to Nintendo hardware like a loyal mascot should.

Actually, Sony could use Kratos as their mascot. The genocidal demigod couldn't possibly scare off more potential customers than those initial crying baby PS3 commercials.

I do think one of the main reasons why Sony is struggling is because they've relied too much on "me too" syndrome with the majority of their bigger games. They've relied on trends far too much and it has hurt them when it comes to differentiating themselves from MS or Nintendo.

Whereas some believe that Nintendo suffers from too little of a "Me Too" impulse.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article5311385.ece

raise prices for its gadgets in the face of dwindling consumer spending.

So the PS3 is going to be even MORE expensive?

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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2008, 09:37:38 PM »
PS3 sales aren't helping them, but they've long said they're losing money on their LCD TVs as well.  Right now Sony is like Microsoft without the cash cow that is the Windows OS.  Actually, the PS3 is the least of their worries right now, because they aren't making money with the products that they SHOULD be cleaning up with.

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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2008, 09:40:49 PM »
PS3 sales aren't helping them, but they've long said they're losing money on their LCD TVs as well.  Right now Sony is like Microsoft without the cash cow that is the Windows OS.  Actually, the PS3 is the least of their worries right now, because they aren't making money with the products that they SHOULD be cleaning up with.

I don't really follow electronics outside videogames...Has there been a specific set of products that Sony has generally dominated?

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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2008, 09:51:23 PM »
PS3 sales aren't helping them, but they've long said they're losing money on their LCD TVs as well.  Right now Sony is like Microsoft without the cash cow that is the Windows OS.  Actually, the PS3 is the least of their worries right now, because they aren't making money with the products that they SHOULD be cleaning up with.

I don't really follow electronics outside videogames...Has there been a specific set of products that Sony has generally dominated?

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« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2008, 09:51:49 PM »
Sony needs to get out of video gaming and go back to what they do best: trying in vain to impose new proprietary media formats on everyone. They got lucky with Blu-ray, but I guess if you keep trying something over and over again eventually you'll be successful once in awhile. But despite their victory over HD-DVD, they are in the crapper right now. Whodda thunk it? Looks like the Blu-ray victory was a Pyhrric one at best.

But I think a big problem with Sony (and to a lesser extent with MS) is these companies have too much stuff going on at once, so the left hand hasn't any clue what the right one is doing. With Nintendo this has never been a problem because Nintendo has only ever done gaming and never anything else, but Sony and MS only see gaming as a means to an end. They don't see it as a major revenue source the way Nintendo does, but instead as a way to take over your living rooms...

And I think that is why they are failing now and why Nintendo is succeeding.
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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2008, 10:22:54 PM »
If Sony gets out of gaming, maybe Sega can come back!
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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2008, 10:33:54 PM »
Sega Playstation.... hm...
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2008, 11:25:14 PM »
The lack of mascots was just a symptom of one of it's weaknesses, the lack of games that is Sony and Sony alone. PSX had a a lot of default mascots, but they failed to capitalize and assumed they will always be good and remain exclusive to Sony. When they did start to develop their own mascots, it was far too late. They now lack the expertise, talent, market presence or vision. Sack Boy is the end result. Home isn't helping them. It's something they can't sell, nor is it something that hasn't been done before, but better. The lack of continuity opens them up every generation to new competition.

That's just the videogames division. They haven't made any cuts in movies or the PS lines. Yet.

Blue Ray has done nothing but tied them to a war they shouldn't have fought. They only needed torpedo HD-DVD so they can some out with truly superior product in the future. Now it's stuck is a war with DVD that it can't win. The HD market is confused as there is no set standard. HDMI continues to cause more problems than it solves, for marginal gains to protect something people aren't buying. Itunes and the Ipod kills them on the music stage.

Sony not being able to work around the strengthening Yen is shortsightedness at it's best. Sony is looking like the Big 3 car makers in the US.
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