Author Topic: ELITIST thread (Read 26456 times)

EasyCure · « **Reply #50 on:** November 20, 2008, 06:50:37 PM »

Ian do you want me to buy you an Xbox for Xmas?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #51 on:** November 20, 2008, 07:03:02 PM »

Nintendo has always been known for its hardcore, super challenging games until that stoopid Wii came along.

Mario · « **Reply #52 on:** November 20, 2008, 07:32:02 PM »

That's funny Ian since arcade games were the original casual thing that got most people into videogames and they were very challenging by design. I do agree that the term hardcore gamer is thrown around far too often though as opposed to gamer.

DAaaMan64 · « **Reply #53 on:** November 20, 2008, 09:59:33 PM »

Quote from: Lindy on November 20, 2008, 01:03:54 PM

Quote from: KDR_11k on November 20, 2008, 01:53:32 AM
BTW, Ikaruga doesn't count as core. No, seriously, short, challenge and highscore driven games aren't core. The "new" market is really half driven by arcade-like games, you do things until you hit a high score (the other half is utility programs where scores don't make sense).

Can't wait to see those Grandmas playing Ikaruga.

LOL core gamers don't play Hardcore games. You know this.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #54 on:** November 21, 2008, 05:10:26 AM »

Quote from: Ian Sane on November 20, 2008, 06:48:06 PM

Anything that could use the word "challenge" to describe it, unless the full context is "no challenge" is not non-gamer.

Then why are you complaining about the Wii so much?

Also does that make Twilight Princess non-gamer?

NWR_Lindy · « **Reply #55 on:** November 21, 2008, 10:01:18 AM »

It's inclusionary vs. exclusionary. Nintendo's goal is to create inclusionary games that anybody can understand and enjoy. That was NOT Treasure's goal with Ikaruga to say the least, and saying otherwise is just plain silly. Could anybody play it? Theoretically, yes. Will anybody but the most hardcore shmup junkies play it? Categorically, no.

DAaaMan64 · « **Reply #56 on:** November 21, 2008, 10:36:56 AM »

Are hardcore shmup junkies the "core", the "traditional" gamer? No.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #57 on:** November 21, 2008, 01:15:32 PM »

Quote from: DAaaMan64 on November 21, 2008, 10:36:56 AM

Are hardcore shmup junkies the "core", the "traditional" gamer? No.

Lindy loses again.

nickmitch · « **Reply #58 on:** November 21, 2008, 02:12:47 PM »

Lindemann never wins.

vudu · « **Reply #59 on:** November 21, 2008, 02:33:37 PM »

For all the **** we give Silks, you have to give the man credit. For the past couple months he's really the only staff member who has been paying significant attention to the forums outside of Talkback.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #60 on:** November 21, 2008, 03:20:59 PM »

Quote from: vudu on November 21, 2008, 02:33:37 PM

For all the **** we give Silks, you have to give the man credit. For the past couple months he's really the only staff member who has been paying significant attention to the forums outside of Talkback.

That's like praising a cancer for metastasizing...

NWR_Lindy · « **Reply #61 on:** November 24, 2008, 12:17:16 AM »

Quote from: DAaaMan64 on November 21, 2008, 10:36:56 AM

Are hardcore shmup junkies the "core", the "traditional" gamer? No.

I don't know what the hell they are. Insane, mostly. But they aren't your Blue Ocean crowd, that's for sure.

MaleficentOgre · « **Reply #62 on:** November 25, 2008, 07:25:30 PM »

I beat every game I buy that's beatable. I don't buy a lot of games.The ones I do buy I buy cheap and have all the fun I can with them. It may take me years to beat a game but I bet all of them. I save money that way. Why pay for a game you're not going to get all the enjoyment out of. It's like buying a movie ticket and watching the first half and leaving. You paid for the whole thing, watch it. Hardcore gamers are weird.
It also seems like elitists have a lot less fun with what they do. I enjoy pretty much every game I buy. I borrow and rent games I'm not absolutely sold on. Stuff like Mass Effect, Infinite Undiscovery and stuff like that.

NWR_Lindy · « **Reply #63 on:** November 25, 2008, 08:37:08 PM »

I'm pretty much done buying games for a long time. There are maybe a couple on the horizon that I'm looking out for (Killzone 2, namely), but that's about it.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #64 on:** November 26, 2008, 03:52:16 AM »

Quote from: MaleficentOgre on November 25, 2008, 07:25:30 PM

I beat every game I buy that's beatable. I don't buy a lot of games.The ones I do buy I buy cheap and have all the fun I can with them. It may take me years to beat a game but I bet all of them. I save money that way. Why pay for a game you're not going to get all the enjoyment out of. It's like buying a movie ticket and watching the first half and leaving. You paid for the whole thing, watch it. Hardcore gamers are weird.

To me that depends on whether the game actually remains fun the whole way through. You're not missing out on enjoyment if the game stopped being fun, are you?

D_Average · « **Reply #65 on:** November 26, 2008, 02:15:15 PM »

Quote from: Lindy on November 25, 2008, 08:37:08 PM

I'm pretty much done buying games for a long time. There are maybe a couple on the horizon that I'm looking out for (Killzone 2, namely), but that's about it.

Same here, as far as brand new $60 games. Renting games has worked great the past couple months. I've usually done with a game after two weeks anyway (save Madden and Burnout).

KDR_11k · « **Reply #66 on:** November 27, 2008, 04:25:28 AM »

Also why the hell are people hyped for KZ2 after the disaster that was KZ1?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #67 on:** November 27, 2008, 04:26:47 AM »

Quote from: KDR_11k on November 27, 2008, 04:25:28 AM

Also why the hell are people hyped for KZ2 after the disaster that was KZ1?

I'm not. I've learned my lesson a long time ago from Sony and their CGI teasers and "promising" games.

NWR_Lindy · « **Reply #68 on:** November 28, 2008, 11:26:12 PM »

I'm in the Killzone 2 Beta. It's very, very, good.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #69 on:** November 29, 2008, 02:27:23 AM »

The movie clip was very, very good.

NWR_Lindy · « **Reply #70 on:** November 30, 2008, 10:09:51 AM »

I've played the actual game (at least the multiplayer part of it) and it's very, very good. I can't vouch for the single-player (my guess is that it'll be serviceable but pretty corny), but the multiplayer is top-notch.

MaleficentOgre · « **Reply #71 on:** December 02, 2008, 06:36:29 PM »

Killzone 1 wasn't bad. It is another victim of hype on the negative. It wasn't the best game ever and so now everyone misremembers it. It's a solid console shooter, nothing special but not awful nor a disaster. If the controls were tighter it could've been outstanding. Simply your regular old good game.

NWR_Lindy · « **Reply #72 on:** December 02, 2008, 08:43:56 PM »

Killzone 1 is the very definition of vanilla. The environments really look good but they're unnecessarily big and empty, the story is color-by-numbers, and the enemies are super-generic (and I play a lot of FPSes, so I'm virtually immune to generic enemies). It was an undeniably average game that was hyped up to unjustified proportions. IGN gave it a 7.0 and I think that's dead on. All the pieces are there, they're all decent enough, but there's nothing spectacular.

DAaaMan64 · « **Reply #73 on:** December 02, 2008, 08:47:58 PM »

I can't believe the scores they give MyFirstFPS'. 7.0 is wayy to high for something generic thats be done 100x over.

Whatever though, reviews should just start crackin' down on this ****. I'm looking at you, all of you.

NWR_Lindy · « **Reply #74 on:** December 02, 2008, 08:52:45 PM »

Every game genre has been done a hundred times over. What's your point?

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