Topic: REVIEWS: Guitar Hero: World Tour

[EasyCure]

i dont care about the character models, i'd buy the game (only if instruments were cross compatible) since everyone raves about how much better it is than guitar hero. If anything i want to see what the differences really are, i'm still playing a fake lil instrument to timed notes

[Ian Sane]

Check that Rock Band 2 thread again. I brought up the fact that IGN took down that article at the devs request. Perhaps the instruments wont be cross compatible, but thats just me speculating.

Sh!t.  I finally found Guitar Hero: World Tour this weekend and bought it.  Well it doesn't really matter because I had my friends over and we had a blast so it's still a worthwhile purchase regardless.  If Rock Band 2 isn't compatible then f*ck 'em.  IGN wouldn't make up the fact that the version they got worked with the GH instruments.  So if the final product isn't compatible then Harmonix REMOVED compatibility and if that's the case then they're assh0les who don't deserve for their game to be successful on the market-leading console.

Something that no review has mentioned though that really bugged me is that mic requires a remote.  I only had two remotes and one of my friends has a Wii as well so I figured with him bringing his one remote we would have enough for the drums and guitars and the mic wouldn't need one.  It took me forever to figure this out as all my remotes were connected to the instruments and it wouldn't recognize the mic and it was driving me nuts.  I even plugged the mic into my PC to confirm that it worked.  While I like activating star power through a button push, I had to buy myself a third remote and that kind of sucks.  The Wii version is pretty damn expensive since on top of the hardware you also need four remotes.

My drums work fine.  I think it's just bad luck if your's isn't so hot.  Still inconsistent quality is worth pointing out in a review.

Does everyone have that one friend who's a total wet blanket and is never willing to do vocals?  We've only got him to sing one song.  And not only is he not willing to sing but he's so oblivious to popular music that he knows almost none of the songs.  But there are some songs none of the four of us know so someone volunteers to try to figure out the melody on the fly.  He never volunteers for this.

The sad thing is my timing for buying this sucks.  We all got together yesterday because it was the last day before one of my friends goes out of town for a month.  Now we can't finish the career mode as our band.  D'oh!

After playing a fair bit I agree with Ty.  If Guitar Hero is too hard for you you're a pussy.   If one of your friends really sucks then just pick beginner where all you have to do is get the timing right.  If you can't do THAT without failing you should just quit.

[EasyCure]

I can't say i've had that experience because i've only played it as a band on a few occasions:

1st time i only had two wiimotes, so my brother and his friend took turns doing vocals while i did guitar (his friend tried guitar but couldnt get it right)

2nd time my friend and i took turns doing vocals + guitar while the other drummed (by then i had a third remote)

3rd time my gf played bass while i did guitar.

I'm sure if i still had a huge group of gamer friends like in middle/high school there'd be one in the group that would refuse to do vocals and would end up not playing because of it, but since i dont have many gamer friends this isn't a problem since theres never a full band! If it ever came to that, I'd probably end up being the guy to pick up the vocals just cuz even if I am a tad shy about singing in front of people. When my friend and i were taking turns, the only time i'd ever done vocals with someone else in the room, we were kinda buzzed so it didn't matter if we sucked or didnt know the lyrics. At one ponit i just hummed the tune since i didnt know the lyrics and the font is too damn tiny to read!

[UltimatePartyBear]

Does everyone have that one friend who's a total wet blanket and is never willing to do vocals?  We've only got him to sing one song.  And not only is he not willing to sing but he's so oblivious to popular music that he knows almost none of the songs.  But there are some songs none of the four of us know so someone volunteers to try to figure out the melody on the fly.  He never volunteers for this.

That would probably be me.  I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I can't make myself sing in front of other people.  I've tried, but after a line or two, I just freeze up.  It's frustrating for me, too.

It might help if any of those PS2 karaoke games had song ONE on them that wouldn't make me scramble for the dial if they played on the radio, but I admit to being a jerk there.

[NWR_Neal]

Its frustrating when you're playing in a party setting and you keep failing songs because someone keeps overreaching their boundaries. Yes, you can change difficulties, but at least Rock Band has the saving ability and, in RB2, No Fail Mode.

No Fail Mode is spectacular for parties, or even a setting where you want to try a really difficult song on Expert.

GH:WT and RB2 are of comparable difficulty, but RB2 is just more friendly.

[Ian Sane]

That would probably be me.  I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I can't make myself sing in front of other people.

Alcohol allows everyone to sing in front of anyone.

Its frustrating when you're playing in a party setting and you keep failing songs because someone keeps overreaching their boundaries.

I guess I just personally don't have this problem.  Though what that really indicates is that I need to break away more often from my little clique of single 20-something year old male friends with the occasional girlfriend-who-is-geeky-enough-to-like-games thrown in.  If I had a party where I invited my co-workers, who will fall into the age range of over 40 and would bring spouses, then maybe a no fail mode would make more sense.  In other words I've never invited dreaded non-gamers into my lair.

[NWR_Neal]

I guess it depends on your setting.
I'm in college so I deal with a lot of drunk people thinking they can play Expert Guitar. I also entice my family to play every now and then, and the majority of them have little to no game experience.

When it comes down to it, I prefer Rock Band and it seems like you prefer Guitar Hero. The two series have minute differences and all it comes down to is song and style preference.

RB wins for me with the Who, Rush, Pearl Jam, the Beatles, AC/DC, Talking Heads, and more.
GH has some respectable exclusives (or firsts) like the Doors, the Eagles, Van Halen, Ozzy, 311, and more but I'd rather have RB's setlist.

[EasyCure]

311 :pukes:

sorry.

That would probably be me.  I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I can't make myself sing in front of other people.

Alcohol allows everyone to sing in front of anyone.

I already proved that in my post Its so true, normally I'd be to shy/embarrassed to sing in front of anyone, even my best friend of 17 freaking years, but alcohol got me thru that. I play vocals every now and again when I'm alone (in combination with guitar) and sometimes if i actually sing loud enough to hear myself coming thru my speakers I'll get a lil self conscience, but hey... i could pass a few vocal parts on expert so i mustn't be THAT bad right?

[MaleficentOgre]

I only have a few friends that play games. Most of the people I hang out with, the most they've seen of gaming are kiosks at wal mart. I'm really looking forward to no fail mode. Beginniner mode makes them feel stupid if I'm playing guitar on expert or drums on hard and they have this rainbow thing going on. I'm an awful singer and some songs just weren't made for me.

[NWR_Neal]

I only have a few friends that play games. Most of the people I hang out with, the most they've seen of gaming are kiosks at wal mart. I'm really looking forward to no fail mode. Beginniner mode makes them feel stupid if I'm playing guitar on expert or drums on hard and they have this rainbow thing going on. I'm an awful singer and some songs just weren't made for me.

Get Rock Band then.

[Morari]

And not only is he not willing to sing but he's so oblivious to popular music that he knows almost none of the songs.

I don't know a good handful of songs in World Tour. The set list tends to suck for the most part.

[MaleficentOgre]

I'll pick it up in a year or two when the price drops. I already have world tour. I actually like guitar hero's set list.

[EasyCure]

And not only is he not willing to sing but he's so oblivious to popular music that he knows almost none of the songs.

I don't know a good handful of songs in World Tour. The set list tends to suck for the most part.

Fixed your post.

I knew about half of the set list, the other half ended up being better than i thought. Take for instance Go Your Own Way by Fleetwood Mac; I've always heard of the band but never heard any music by them, that song freaking rocks and its one of my favorites to play to. Oh and i just downloaded Jessies Girl by Rick Springfield. What else do i have to say?

[IceCold]

There's no way you hadn't heard Go Your Own Way before this..

[UltimatePartyBear]

And not only is he not willing to sing but he's so oblivious to popular music that he knows almost none of the songs.

I don't know a good handful of songs in World Tour. The set list tends to suck for the most part.

Fixed your post.

I knew about half of the set list, the other half ended up being better than i thought. Take for instance Go Your Own Way by Fleetwood Mac; I've always heard of the band but never heard any music by them, that song freaking rocks and its one of my favorites to play to. Oh and i just downloaded Jessies Girl by Rick Springfield. What else do i have to say?

EasyCure fails at fixing posts.

I like Jessie's Girl.  So far it seems to me that the downloadable songs have better note charts.  Maybe that's just because I stopped playing before getting all that far in the career because of gaming overload, though.

[NWR_Neal]

I'll pick it up in a year or two when the price drops. I already have world tour. I actually like guitar hero's set list.

Rock Band 2 will be compatible with all instruments
Writing up news story as we speak/type.

EDIT: Also, Jessie's Girl and Go Your Own Way both rule.

[Ian Sane]

Those of you unfamiliar with songs like Go Your Own Way I'm assuming don't listen to mainstream radio much?  I have the radio on every day for my work commute.  And some of it sucks, some of it rocks, some of it I used to like but has been ruined for me by overplay, some of it is not great but is totally inoffensive to have in the background.  But I do flip between my presets just to avoid really crappy songs.  I need something to listen to for the commute and if I listen to my CDs or MP3s I would just get sick of those.  Might as well get sick of the radio instead of the music I actually paid for.

The songs I never know are usually from this decade.  I stopped listening to current mainstream rock once completely worthless borderline this-isn't-even-music bands like Korn and Limp Bizkit started dominating the airwaves and then later extremely bland bands like Nickleback took their place.  So yeah something by The Killers shows up in these games and unless the song appeared in a TV ad I don't know it... and usually I still hate it.

Jessie's Girl is like total silly pop rock with no artistic merit... but it's fun so I still like it.   I think that's the difference between now and then.  In the 80's crappy rock music was like campy pop while today crappy rock music is super serious.

[EasyCure]

And not only is he not willing to sing but he's so oblivious to popular music that he knows almost none of the songs.

I don't know a good handful of songs in World Tour. The set list tends to suck for the most part.

Fixed your post.

I knew about half of the set list, the other half ended up being better than i thought. Take for instance Go Your Own Way by Fleetwood Mac; I've always heard of the band but never heard any music by them, that song freaking rocks and its one of my favorites to play to. Oh and i just downloaded Jessies Girl by Rick Springfield. What else do i have to say?

EasyCure fails at fixing posts.

I like Jessie's Girl.  So far it seems to me that the downloadable songs have better note charts.  Maybe that's just because I stopped playing before getting all that far in the career because of gaming overload, though.

hehe i do, whooooops!

There's no way you hadn't heard Go Your Own Way before this..

It's true. The closest thing i heard to Fleetwood Mac was the goat in South Park that US troops confused for Stevie Nicks

Ian, I never listen to the radio anymore, ever. I got sick of hearing all the same songs across all genres, across all stations. I burned MP3 discs before i got my ipod and filled them with random stuff and put them on shuffle (which i now do with my ipod). If my iPod is ever dead or i forget it at home, i still have the backup cd's just so i dont have to listen to the god awful radio. At work all the operators in our call center listen to some internet radio and you'd think its better, but its not. Every day this week I've heard that "i kissed a girl" song, or any other "hit" song and thats just not my thing. If you're gonna play the Police, why not play something other than Roxanne or Message In A Bottle? They have tons of good stuff, but they don't play it so why should i listen? Hell I don't hear any other songs that are considered their Greatest Hits on the radio! Its only always Roxanne, Message In A Bottle, and Every Breath You Take.

Anyway I'm ranting now. Point is I don't listen to radio, 'mainstream' or not, so no I never heard anything by Fleetwood Mac before. I discover new music by a few methods:

1. Word of mouth; for instance, today a girl at work let me listen to some group called MGMT cuz she thought i'd like them, and i do happen to like the few songs i heard.

2. Influences/Inspiration: One of the best ways, just check out bands or artist that have inspired those that you already listen to. Many of you know i'm a fan of The Cure. They were influenced (at first) by bands like The Buzzcocks, Elvis Costello. Robert Smith has even been quoted as saying he wanted to sound like a "punk Beatles." That was before he played with Siouxsie & The Banshees and they went from their post-punk sound to the crazy stuff they've done after their first album. When I first got into The Cure I'd already liked the Buzzcocks, a few things from Elvis Costello, and loved the Beatles, but they got me into Siouxsie. When they toured around 2004/05 they played with bands like Interpol and Muse (whom which Smith hand picked for their summer festival) both of which i checked out, and one of which I enjoy.

3. Download at random: Sometimes i'll just download a torrent at random and see what i like. I don't do this as often as the 2nd method, but it can be fun.

Oh another example of the 2nd method. I was listening to The Postal Service, which is the side project of Death Cab For Cutie's frontman, the other day when a song came on with a backing vocalist whose voice i enjoyed. I'd read up years earlier that she actually has her own band, and was a child actress and at least one of the other bandmates in her band was a child actor as well. I confused this women with another actress who has a band (though her name escapes me at the moment) so i was surprised to find out that the backup vocalist for The Postal Service is Jenny "He touched my breasts!" Lewis of The Wizard fame. She has a band called Rilo Kiley where she shares vocal duties, and the guitarist was a cast member on Salute Your Shorts! He also happens to have a band, The Elected, both which I will be giving a listen to the next time i sync up my ipod.

[Ian Sane]

If you're gonna play the Police, why not play something other than Roxanne or Message In A Bottle?

In high school I loved the Police.  I had their Greatest Hits on CD and listened to it all the time while doing homework (that was standard for homework, put a CD on in the background).  But now I never ever listen to that album anymore.  The local classic rock station just plays the crap out of the Police.  And not just Every Breath You Take and Roxanne.  No, they play all their hits.  They're playing So Lonely and Invisible Sun and Synchronicity II.  But they play that band way too much in comparision to other acts so I'm Policed out.

Influences/Inspiration: One of the best ways, just check out bands or artist that have inspired those that you already listen to.

Yeah, this is great way to discover bands.  It's pretty much the only way I find "new" music to listen to these days.  I like Oasis.  Noel Gallagher mentions The Jam and The Stone Roses as influences so I check them out.  Now there's two more acts I'm into.  And the "spin-off" method works too.  Hey, Fine Young Cannibals are pretty good.  What?  Two of the guys used to be on the English Beat?  *Listens to Mirror in the Bathroom*  Hey these guys rock!  I got into Peter Gabriel from his big radio hits like Sledgehammer.  I discover more awesome stuff of his that doesn't get so much radio airplay and then find out he used to be the lead singer of Genesis.  So I check that older Genesis stuff out and holy sh!t!

Another trick I like is that some bands are really big in the UK for example but not the US.  But these aren't like uncommercial underground bands.  They're very accessible, they just have mainstream popularity in the UK but not the US.  Well that's a great way to discover a band that will have radio friendly music but you never hear on the radio.  I'd recommend American and British music fans to look into Canadian acts that aren't big outside their own country.  As a Canadian I don't have that option.  Those acts are mainstream to me and any mainstream act in the States is also going to be mainstream here.  But it doesn't work the other way and I think Americans can benefit from that.  Go look into Blue Rodeo for example and remember there was a time where Sarah McLachlan and The Barenaked Ladies were unknown in the States but were big over here (in both cases I'd say their best stuff was released then).

[Justin Nation]

What I want to know is who is going to get a full library of Motley Crue. Girls, Girls, Girls... Wild Side... Kickstart My Heart... hell, get wild and give me some of their more raunchy music for some wholesome fun. Still will never forget them doing a concert a Merriweather Post Pavilion (Columbia, MD for those in other regions) and a family making a ruckus because they brought their kids to the concert and couldn't believe what they were doing on stage. Mind you, this was after the release of an album complete with the songs She Goes Down, Slice of Your Pie and Rattlesnake Shake. I guess all they heard were the power ballads on Smooth Mix Pop 101 or something and thought that was their gig. For each Every Rose Has Its Thorn there are 3 Unskinny Bop people... sheesh. I miss my 80s/90s hair bands!

[EasyCure]

Another trick I like is that some bands are really big in the UK for example but not the US.  But these aren't like uncommercial underground bands.  They're very accessible, they just have mainstream popularity in the UK but not the US.  Well that's a great way to discover a band that will have radio friendly music but you never hear on the radio.  I'd recommend American and British music fans to look into Canadian acts that aren't big outside their own country.  As a Canadian I don't have that option.  Those acts are mainstream to me and any mainstream act in the States is also going to be mainstream here.  But it doesn't work the other way and I think Americans can benefit from that.  Go look into Blue Rodeo for example and remember there was a time where Sarah McLachlan and The Barenaked Ladies were unknown in the States but were big over here (in both cases I'd say their best stuff was released then).

I knew i was forgetting something. I just happened to get into a few canadian bands when i was starting off in highschool. Back then There were 3 music channels: MTV, MUCHMUSIC, and VH1. I hated MTV and Vh1 wasn't really for me, so my late summer nights (when no good movies were on) were spent checking out real music programming like The Punk Show on MuchMusic. It was a sad day when they were reformatted to a more anti-mtv-yet-exactly-the-same format (ie some network popped up that probably had nothing to do with MuchMusic and built a studio in NYC a few blocks away from MTV and Time Square). I've never seen or heard GOB on American airwaves since then,

Also I got into Bloc Party when a friend turned me on to them cuz he would check out the Brittish rock charts and they're pretty popular over there, and not so much here. I became a fan after listening to their EPs and got their debut album on day one when it released here, been a fan ever since. One of the few new bands i enjoy actually, I'm not sure if they're your cup of tea Ian but you should give them a shot. I'll even recommend a few select tracks for you if you're interested.

Oh and trying to get on topic:

Guitar Hero World Tour = Tons of Fun. Just recently downloaded Jessies Girl which downloaded straight to, and plays right off, my SD card seamlessly. Really happy with my purchase!

[Justin Nation]

I don't know whether on downloading a Rick Springfield song to play for GH I'd first be overcome by:

• nostalgia
• nausea

[EasyCure]

I don't know whether on downloading a Rick Springfield song to play for GH I'd first be overcome by:

• nostalgia
• nausea

fixed

[decoyman]

Maybe you'd be overcome by a mix of the two:
nostalsea ("nah-STAL-zee-yah")

I think it's where you throw up, but you're smiling the whole while.

I sold back my GHWT band pack. Am still confused why you can use RB drums in GHWT on 360, but not Wii. It's not technical in nature because of the inclusion/exclusion of the Wii Remote in the instruments, as RB works w/ GHWT instruments.

P.S. - "THIS HORSE IS NOT DEAD YET!" (kick, punt, beat!)

[LuigiHann]

I sold back my GHWT band pack. Am still confused why you can use RB drums in GHWT on 360, but not Wii. It's not technical in nature because of the inclusion/exclusion of the Wii Remote in the instruments, as RB works w/ GHWT instruments.

Because GHWT came out first for Wii, the RB creators were able to code in support for those drums. It doesn't work the other way around because the drum sets are different.

Even on 360 and PS3, the games had to be patched for cross-compatibility.