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Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2008, 10:16:28 PM »
The bad news is, they want to give him a lame Poochie style extreme makeover for America.

What are you referring to by "Poochie style?"

You must be too young for old Simpsons. :(

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« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2008, 08:42:31 AM »
I just noticed that the comparison image is skewed: The old Klonoa is an ingame pic, the new one concept art. Makes the new design look cleaner.

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Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2008, 11:04:32 AM »
You must be too young for old Simpsons. :(

No, I'm too old to watch your baby cartoons.

I just noticed that the comparison image is skewed: The old Klonoa is an ingame pic, the new one concept art. Makes the new design look cleaner.

What game is that shot from?  I noticed it was fuzzy, but the cel-shading was good enough that I didn't even question that it was hand drawn (assuming it's not a sprite with oddly angular hat, shoes, and gloves).

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« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2008, 11:43:24 AM »
I'd assume it's the current ingame model or something before Marketing decided to intervene.

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Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2008, 02:47:49 PM »
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You must be too young for old Simpsons.

I'm old enough that I don't even regard Poochie as "old" Simpsons.  Hell, it's been so long since I've even watched the show that Poochie is like a more recent episode in my mind even though it came out when I was in high school.

F*ck.  Poochie IS old.  He's older than Klonoa though by only a couple of months.

I'm very much of the idea that if the IP needs to be retooled in order for the company to be confident in it, then why use that IP?  Why not just make some new character?  The whole idea of sequels and spin-offs and franchises is that the IP's name recognition helps sell the product.  The whole reason to even make any Klonoa product is because Klonoa should be a strong enough brand to make a profit.  If it's not then from a business perspective why bother?  If they have to Poochify Klonoa then the Klonoa name is worthless.  Anyone who knows Klonoa will not appreciate the make-over while anyone who would like the make-over will have never heard of Klonoa in the first place.

The only justification is a lack of creativity.  If they make a new character they have to make a new game and recycling this one is obviously easier and cheaper.  Maybe I've just become too cynical but it seems like a bunch of suits met in a boardroom to discuss new kid-oriented product for the Wii and decided that remaking an old game would cut costs and they could just retool the character design to something they figure would appeal more to today's kids, who wouldn't realize they're playing a ten year old game anyway.

Hell, I just don't trust any reused content on the Wii.  I just think they're trying to scam the Wii userbase because evidence shows that they can.
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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2008, 02:05:48 AM »
Well, many people who played an IP for kids when they were young seem to want a grown-up version of the IP when they're in the blood-and-gore age bracket, resulting in games like Shadow The Hedgehog...

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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2008, 07:02:07 AM »
I don't think many past puberty wanted Shadow the Hedgehog... =(
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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2008, 12:47:22 PM »
Well, many people who played an IP for kids when they were young seem to want a grown-up version of the IP when they're in the blood-and-gore age bracket, resulting in games like Shadow The Hedgehog...

Has that ever really worked out?  I can't recall any game character ever going through a transformation like that and coming out for the better.

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« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2008, 08:54:48 PM »
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Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2008, 03:02:31 AM »
Megaman X.

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Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2008, 01:42:24 PM »
Prince of Persia.  ;D
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« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2008, 02:00:37 PM »
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Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2008, 05:22:04 PM »
I'm not sure how bomberman changed.  I forgot about megaman x, looks a lot cooler I'll give it that.  As for Prince of Persia his latest change, I just don't like.

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« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2008, 07:00:57 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2008, 05:25:39 PM »
Bomberman didn't change for the better.Look up Bomberman Zero. I think it was a Xbox or 360 title.
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« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2008, 05:51:30 PM »
Maxi doesn't understand sarcasm.Look up Sarcasm. I think it is on Dictionary.com.
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« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2008, 06:04:27 PM »
I will do that later Vudu.Thanks.

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« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2008, 06:26:31 PM »
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Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2008, 03:35:32 AM »
omg i forgot about that abomination.

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Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2008, 09:41:03 AM »
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Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2008, 10:26:12 PM »
I just watched this game's japanese trailer, and I think it looks great. I hope this games is released everywhere else other than Japan.

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Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2008, 03:32:29 AM »
I'll cry if this game doesn't get localized.  But I'll also cry if they actually use that awful Klonoa redesign.

I'm expecting Namco to make me cry. );
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Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2008, 02:47:13 PM »
The vid clearly shows that Klonoa looks just like old Klonoa. Unless of course when they localize it they change their minds.

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Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2008, 02:02:30 AM »
Wasn't that the point?  Modify Klonoa's character design for the US release in an attempt to make him more appealing to westerners? 
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« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2008, 04:43:45 PM »
As long as we get the game I'll be happy.  Namco is one of the worst companies when it comes to localizing games, and if messing with Klonoa's design is what it takes for it to come over then I'm for it.  As long as that's all they change and not the actual gameplay itself.
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