Author Topic: Don't buy scam DLC (Read 19332 times)

vudu · « **Reply #50 on:** November 10, 2008, 04:58:02 PM »

While I don't have any facts to back up my claim, I don't think many people tend to do that. People either buy games new or they buy them used.

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #51 on:** November 10, 2008, 05:13:07 PM »

I tend to do both.

I got Fzero GX used and got the original and X afterwards.

vudu · « **Reply #52 on:** November 10, 2008, 05:27:02 PM »

So you're the reason we don't have F-Zero Wii!! Nintendo said hey, look! Maxi bought F-Zero and F-Zero X but he didn't buy GX. He must be growing bored of the series. Let's not make any more F-Zero games!

When you buy used Nintendo doesn't get your money so they don't know you bought the game. You're just hurting yourself!

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #53 on:** November 10, 2008, 05:47:28 PM »

I think I should clear something up I bought FzeroGX when it came out new.I moved and my GC games went missing. After that I bought it used.I got F-zero and F-zero X on the VC.Fzero GX was my first Fzero game.

Besides I am sure they are working on a new Fzero.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #54 on:** November 10, 2008, 05:54:24 PM »

Just popping in to remind everyone that the F-Zero series is dead!

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #55 on:** November 10, 2008, 06:00:56 PM »

To get back on topic about DLC and endings. Imagine if you had to buy all of the endings to Chrono Trigger.This is why DLC is a dumb idea.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #56 on:** November 11, 2008, 02:38:13 AM »

Some people figure the money they get back on a trade-in into the price of the game, if that value lowers they see a higher game price and become less willing to buy.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #57 on:** November 11, 2008, 08:21:35 AM »

Quote from: Maxi on November 10, 2008, 06:00:56 PM

To get back on topic about DLC and endings. Imagine if you had to buy all of the endings to Chrono Trigger.This is why DLC is a dumb idea.

Maxi, did you post that because of what Mike Capps from epic games wants to do?

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The secondary market is a huge issue in the United States. Our primary retailer makes the majority of its money off of secondary sales, and so you’re starting to see games taking proactive steps toward that by… if you buy the retail version you get the unlock code.

I’ve talked to some developers who are saying ‘If you want to fight the final boss you go online and pay USD 20, but if you bought the retail version you got it for free’. We don’t make any money when someone rents it, and we don’t make any money when someone buys it used - way more than twice as many people played Gears than bought it.

http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/11/10/capps-we-really-need-to-make-strides-against-the-secondhand-market/

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #58 on:** November 11, 2008, 09:02:26 AM »

My post and what Mike Capps said are in line with each other.You have to pay for the final boss that means you are pretty much paying to see the ending.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #59 on:** November 11, 2008, 09:12:29 AM »

Well here's one big issue that they overlooked but then again Epic higher ups are delusional that only the 360 PS3 and PC only offer the "next gen experience". Anyways the big issue is that not everyone who owns a current gen console has access to broadband internet and all 5 current platforms Wii PS3 360 DS and PSP require a broadband connection to go online to each console's respective online infrastructure. And a legitimate customer who bought it new but doesn't have broadband can't access the end of the game it's just another form of DRM just presented at a different angle.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #60 on:** November 11, 2008, 04:06:13 PM »

Maybe Epic should just go download-only if they're so worried about used sales...

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #61 on:** November 11, 2008, 05:02:36 PM »

Quote from: KDR_11k on November 11, 2008, 04:06:13 PM

Maybe Epic should just go download-only if they're so worried about used sales...

So then lets see: They will only be able to go PS3 and PC then since XBLA has a limit while PSN doesn't and there's no standard on PC with an exception of "Games For Windows".

The digital only PC version will probably be hacked and pirated which Mike Caps and maybe Mark Rein from Epic will whine more.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #62 on:** November 12, 2008, 07:39:52 AM »

They could cut the game size down but overall I just don't think they'd do that since they want all the prestige of a retail release with all the control of a download release because they're just fucking whiners, almost as bad as the aptly named Cry Tek.

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #63 on:** November 13, 2008, 08:24:11 PM »

http://Http://snagwiremedia.com/why-dlc-game-endings-wouldnt/

A nice read about DLC endings.

Djunknown · « **Reply #64 on:** November 14, 2008, 12:43:39 AM »

Nice quick read. I like the mario picture "Thank you mario but your money is in another castle!"
Priceless.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #65 on:** November 14, 2008, 01:13:11 PM »

F-zero GX was created by Sega and it sold like poo (less than 100K--last I recall it was 56k which is sad for a 90% reviewed game) so yeah I can bank that nintendo wants nothing to do with it.

As for DLC, don't really care myself. Are you complaining that you have to pay extra for it but theer's always been special editions for along time so you can consider it like that.

And what's wrong with buying used :0. It's a cycle--if i buy someone's used tiitles than he/she can buy more

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--Cheap bastard at heart, I haven't paid retail in years now.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #66 on:** November 14, 2008, 03:38:27 PM »

Quote from: Ymeegod on November 14, 2008, 01:13:11 PM

And what's wrong with buying used :0. It's a cycle--if i buy someone's used tiitles than he/she can buy more .

We're tlaking about greedy bastards at Epic, they probably don't think very far.

Morari · « **Reply #67 on:** November 15, 2008, 10:31:22 AM »

The problem isn't the used market, it's the price of games. Companies like to point toward scapegoats like GameStop and BitTorrent, but the truth is that most games are simply too expensive for most people to justify. $60 is simply inexcusable for what is a quickly pressed disc. Developers should try the $20-$30 range instead and I imagine that they'd see far more profits as a much larger percentage of people would then be buying the game to begin with. Draconian DRM and bullshit DLC is just another example of industry stupidity.

vudu · « **Reply #68 on:** November 15, 2008, 10:35:08 AM »

And pirates like to point towards scapegoats like 'game prices are too high' and 'I don't want to support this evil company' but the truth is that most pirates would rather get something for free than to pay for it.

If you're not willing to pay for a game, you shouldn't pay for it. But that doesn't mean you should steal it. Simply skip it.

Morari · « **Reply #69 on:** November 16, 2008, 12:19:09 AM »

Pirating isn't stealing though, it's mere copyright infringement. That said, you will always have people that would prefer to get something for free as opposed to paying for it. Really, who wouldn't? The fact that used markets exist and thrive show that people think game prices are too high. Punishing the paying customers with thick-headed DRM isn't going to sell more games. In fact, these companies wouldn't be loosing out on so much cash at all if they wouldn't drop such big dollar amounts on developing copy-protection schemes that don't do anything but annoy legitimate users.

King of Twitch · « **Reply #70 on:** November 16, 2008, 01:33:16 AM »

Pirates kill people, toss them into the ocean and/or blow up their ships, stop exaggerating.

EasyCure · « **Reply #71 on:** November 16, 2008, 01:47:13 AM »

plus they try to get at your booty, and i'm just not down with that. I'm not homophobic or anything, i just don't like anyone who'll forcefully take anyones booty!

KDR_11k · « **Reply #72 on:** November 16, 2008, 02:04:09 AM »

The used market would exist at any price, just with other markets you don't see the used stuff being sold in major retail chains. That part is caused by the game industry's greed, the profit margins on games are too small to operate on so they're only good as bait to get people into the store and sell them something else too. Crappy third party accessories, strategy guides and used games for Gamestop, pretty much anything on the shelves in other stores.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #73 on:** November 16, 2008, 04:42:45 AM »

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UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #74 on:** November 17, 2008, 11:56:36 AM »

Quote from: Zap on November 16, 2008, 01:33:16 AM

Pirates kill people, toss them into the ocean and/or blow up their ships, stop exaggerating.

Copyright infringement has been called piracy for hundreds of years. Get over yourself.

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Author Topic: Don't buy scam DLC (Read 19332 times)