Author Topic: the gameboy to gamecube scam (Read 35387 times)

Gibdo Master · « **Reply #25 on:** April 04, 2003, 10:26:19 AM »

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Originally posted by: thecubedcanuck
you sound like a bitter child. grow up

Take your own advice and get over the GBA and GCN connective features.

I would like to point out that the whole idea of the Metroid bonus in Prime was that it was for hardcore Metroid fans. If you were a hardcore fan then you would have purchased both games. This means that you would have both GC and a GBA therefore you could unlock the first Metroid game. It was a bonus for hardcore fans not for people like you.

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #26 on:** April 04, 2003, 10:54:48 AM »

im just wondering cubedcanuck, does the GCN-GBA gimmick really bother you much, or are you looking for a debate? (that's not supposed to sound bitter, I've just noticed that you like to debate quite a bit) I do think that some of the stuff (especially the Metroid thing) should have been unlockable without a GameBoy.. maybe after getting the galleries unlocked or beating the game on hard mode.

I have a GBA and GCN so I'm happy and have no real opinion on this topic..

well... i do have some opinions:
oh.. yeah the Tingle thing could work without a GBA, but I don't think that it would be as helpful ... adn to anyone out there who has a Gameboy Advanced or the Gameboy player, i highly recommend Advance Wars (if you do not already own it)

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #27 on:** April 04, 2003, 10:57:19 AM »

"Give me a choice Nintendo, dont force me to buy hardware I simply dont want"

Do you know how ignorant that sounds? They AREN'T forcing you to buy a GBA, only if you want a few extras (not even that great extras). If you're so pissed off that Nintendo won't allow you to access these extras without a GBA, then get a GBA. Otherwise, shut up. I don't believe people should complain about something they are perfectly capable of fixing.

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #28 on:** April 04, 2003, 11:07:21 AM »

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Originally posted by: Gibdo Master<br
I would like to point out that the whole idea of the Metroid bonus in Prime was that it was for hardcore Metroid fans. If you were a hardcore fan then you would have purchased both games. This means that you would have both GC and a GBA therefore you could unlock the first Metroid game. It was a bonus for hardcore fans not for people like you.

not everyone is a hardcore fan of every Nintendo Game.. don't try to use that as leverage in your argument..

a real fan would have bought the 5@|\/||_|5 @|<+10|\| figure

[edit] someone please kill me

The Omen · « **Reply #29 on:** April 04, 2003, 12:24:16 PM »

It's funny, that when i mentioned I thought it was a travesty to HAVE to buy a memory card 251 just for ASB 2004, Cubedcanuck, you responded something like 'So what, just buy another memory card'. Point being, I was forced to buy that card, or I wouldn't be able to access the meat of the game. So I think thats much worse than a few OPTIONS you may miss out on. ASB2004 should come with the card.

GBA is a great system in it's own right, and I hear what you're saying about the small screen. But the Game boy player willl be out in a couple of months, and then you can play on the big screen.

So my response is, if you're upset you're missing out on some options 'SO WHAT, BUY A GBA'

Bloodworth · « **Reply #30 on:** April 04, 2003, 12:49:36 PM »

Strell and thecubedcanuck:

End the fight now. The next one to toss out an insult is going to get banned.

nolimit19 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 04, 2003, 01:28:14 PM »

well i know who i want to get banned.....but anyways......its really no different from the online options of any other console.....its even worse with xbox because u have to pay an extra 50 bucks to use hardware u already have........gameboy is a cool thing to have on trips and its a good system......its not like u are missing out on much anyways.....and like someone else said, lots of times the extras used by the connectivity need the extra screen.

Wesisapie · « **Reply #32 on:** April 04, 2003, 01:36:19 PM »

if you REALLY wanted to play metroid that badly, and you had no cash and no GBA, you would just get a rom. what is it, like 50kb? or just buy a NES and metroid, which would probably be cheap as.

Wesisapie · « **Reply #33 on:** April 04, 2003, 01:37:33 PM »

oh and also, do you need zelda: four swords to use the tingle thing, or just a GBA and link cable?

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #34 on:** April 04, 2003, 01:40:25 PM »

Just a GBA and a link cable, although Four Swords is an excellent game.

theaveng · « **Reply #35 on:** April 04, 2003, 01:55:28 PM »

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Originally posted by: thecubedcanuck
I dont care if they are "BONUS", I bought the game and therefore should be able to access all the features of that game without additional hardware.

I don't agree with cubedcanuck(*), but I support his right to express his opinion. Why do you guys insist upon making him change it?

*(mainly because the Tingle Tuner golden statue collection run was stupid... and the Original Metroid I have on an emulator + original cart. As long as the GBA bonuses are basically worthless junk, I could care less about them.)

Troy

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #36 on:** April 04, 2003, 02:12:39 PM »

THere you are again with that opinion crap. Yeah, he has the right, but he has to at least have a valid ponit. He's just spouting out crap as far as I'm concerned. If people are going to complain they should at least make a point of having a good reason for it.

PorpoiseMuffins · « **Reply #37 on:** April 04, 2003, 02:31:14 PM »

Well, I mean, that's what these forums are here for... to discuss stuff. So if thecubedcanuck had just said what he said and we all said "Oh that's very good for you. Nice opinion!" then there wouldn't be much point in his post in the first place. Obviously he wanted to discuss the issue, which inevitably is going to bring up controversy.

Personally, I say, who cares? This reminds me of a debate in Nintendo Power a long time ago where a bunch of people were saying something about Nintendo limiting their fun in Goldeneye because they weren't good enough to get to the next level. I mean, you knew you couldn't access the Game Boy Advance features when you bought the GameCube game, right? So, It's not like they're trying to trick you or anything. What you spent that $50 on was what you could access in the game without the Game Boy Advance. I mean, would you rather they just not put it in? They'd still be charging the same price for the game whether there were extras or not. Just look at it that way. And enough uncivilized arguing. Sheesh. If you still think it's unfair, then so be it.

thecubedcanuck · « **Reply #38 on:** April 04, 2003, 03:50:53 PM »

wow, some people take this way to personally.
All I am saying is that the 2 are seperate units and should remain that way.
Its nothing personal and it doesnt mean I hate Nintendo.
So please lighten up a tad.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #39 on:** April 04, 2003, 04:02:06 PM »

"This is honestly a stunt that Microsoft would pull and everyone would be screaming monopoly. I dont see this as any differant and including IE with the Windows disk."

Honestly, I hold by with what I said. I don't think people should complain about something they is entirely within their power to fix. If you really want those GBA extras so much, get a GBA. Otherwise, we don't want to hear how your games are suffering because you can't access pitiful little extras (and that's what most of them are: pitiful).

RahXephon · « **Reply #40 on:** April 04, 2003, 04:32:50 PM »

I HAVE GBA AND GC, I HAVE A LINK, THEREFORE I GET ALL THE FEATURES THAT OTHERS DONT. HAHAHAHAHA. Yea for me. You know what, amybe it is a marketing ploy, and maybe it is just a bonus for those who have both systems. I believe it is sorta the first, but more the second. Tingle tuner is cool to have, it makes the game alot of fun. Unlockable secrets in Metroid and AC. definetly awesome. I love the link stuff and i feel bad for you cubed, but thats about it. This is speacial options to those who spent extra money to get a little extra. Nintendo says "Thanks for getting both systems, 10 more bucks for a cord, and you can get some cool stuff." IT is very creative and rewarding. It feels like nintendo is rewarding us for something we would do anyway. As for Pokemon, the console games have always been pretty much useless without already owning the GB ones, so i think the comment runs alittle dry. POKEMON is a franchise where they try to make alot of of it. And it works. Don't be so upset, they are a company and they like money. We are buyers and we like their games. we are both happy. once again, I GET ALL THE COOL FEATURES, because i spent 110 dollars more than you (sp, used to have original GBA, sp is so much better, and the link cable.) I think it is nice i get something extra for my purchase.

Bondo · « **Reply #41 on:** April 04, 2003, 05:12:08 PM »

I agree with thecubedcanuck, but for different reasons, I got the cube over a month ago, and I knew about the gba link before hand. I have no desire to by a gba, and I admit I am a little miffed at not being able to play NES Metroid (but then I haven't played Prime yet, so...). Until recently I thought Metroid was a Gameboy only license until they made Super Metroid.

What is really irritating is that Nintendo is literally two faced about the GBA link. They brush off all requests for online play saying they "want to make games that everyone can play." Well, I certainly can't play NES metroid. Clearly not everyone can play it. I like the GBA link, even though I'll never get one, and I bought A gameboy *solely* for Link's Awakening. I would like to play Metroid, but at least they should at least come up with a good excuse for denying online play, because they break their excuse every time they release a game with GBA functionality.

RahXephon · « **Reply #42 on:** April 04, 2003, 05:15:34 PM »

the original METROID is not for GC, it is for NES. You can play it, get the system it is for. All it is is a port. They have never made up a whole new game you play with the GC-GBA link. Like i said, you can always get an NES.

and as for online, if 1/3 of the PS2 market can play online, that is two million-3 million people. if only 1/3 can play on GC, that is only 1 million, not very profitable.

and finally, i dont think they would have put these features in if there was no link.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #43 on:** April 04, 2003, 05:17:33 PM »

Bondo: If they made a soley online game, there would be people cut off because they simply can't affrd online services for a game, and that would cut them off from the ENTIRE game. You're being cut off from pretty small extras that don't accent or detract at all from the main game because you don't *want* a GBA. That's a major difference. Nintendo also doesn't want to pursue online gaming as intently as MS or Sony because they don't think it's profitable, while on the other hand the GCN-GBA links MAKES profits by getting owners of each console to maybe explore the other. Nintendo's just rewarding people who own both consoles- it's like extra credit on a test, and likewise you shoudn't complain that you don't get it because you were (and still are) perfectly capable of doing so. It's your own choice NOT to get a GBA, so there's not use in getting mad at Nintendo for offering extras that you, through your own course of actions, can't play.

Arbok · « **Reply #44 on:** April 04, 2003, 05:22:02 PM »

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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
Nintendo's just rewarding people who own both consoles- it's like extra credit on a test....

Hmmm.... good metaphor!

Oogle · « **Reply #45 on:** April 04, 2003, 05:25:14 PM »

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Originally posted by: thecubedcanuck
This is honestly a stunt that Microsoft would pull and everyone would be screaming monopoly. I dont see this as any differant and including IE with the Windows disk.

Well, here's the difference:

You buy Zelda: WW and you want to access bonus features. You have 2 choices:

You don't buy a GBA and live with the agony.
You buy a GBA and let your sibling play along.

Now, you buy WinXP and you don't want IE. You have 2 choices:

You keep IE and live with the agony.
You remove IE and... oh wait, you can't remove it. There is no 2nd choice.

It's like saying that you hate Mario Kart because you had to buy 3 more controllers to play a 4-player battle royale by yourself.

Bondo · « **Reply #46 on:** April 04, 2003, 05:36:45 PM »

Who exactly wants a solely online game? I've lurked here and several other boards for the last month and I don't recall anyone saying "I want Mario kart online only!" or whatever. They just want to compete over the internet as an added bonus. Online is simply extra functionality. If Nintendo would just say they hate online, that would be one thing. But to give a lame excuse while offering up the GBA link is dumb. And online games will help the gamecube much more than a bunch of GBA link features.

Also, the tingle tuner could work without a GBA, all they would need to do is put another window on the screen, much like the map inset.

And to the other poster, I have (well, I had a NES) but I got sick of blowing on the cartridges for a half hour to make it work.

RahXephon · « **Reply #47 on:** April 04, 2003, 06:02:34 PM »

i agree, but then under the argument, people shouldnt have to buy the modem to play online, just as they shouldnt have to buy the GBA to play the original metroid. its only added features.

RahXephon · « **Reply #48 on:** April 04, 2003, 06:04:16 PM »

not many cube owners have a credit card to play online you know, it is not profitable BECAUSE not everyone in the small user base could play, and a server is expensive to upkeep

StRaNgE · « **Reply #49 on:** April 04, 2003, 06:10:17 PM »

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Also, the tingle tuner could work without a GBA, all they would need to do is put another window on the screen, much like the map inset.

This shows that you have yet to try it out because what you say is the furthest thing from the truth, it would not be anything like it is now if it was done like that. It would take the fun of cooperation right out the window.

I still don't get why any of you are upset about the GBA extras?
They are just extras, big deal if you don't want them. would you prefer those extras just not be there at all?

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