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Re: Wii Homebrew Channel
« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2008, 10:28:16 AM »
Give wiibrew.org a try. They probably won't have the latest emulator updates, but you can find quite a few of them at ==Please Don't Do This==.
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Re: Wii Homebrew Channel
« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2008, 04:09:11 AM »
I installed the channel, everything else seems to be where it should be, the channel looks nice, but whenever I try to do something with it (load up a homebrew app or go back to the Wii Menu) it freezes up, the load bar never gets past 0%, and I have to unplug the Wii to start it up again.

EDIT: Never mind, I just forgot to take out my GC memory cards, it's fine now. Duck Hunt is disappointing.
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Re: Wii Homebrew Channel
« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2008, 03:28:42 PM »
Beta 8 has been released. You can install it as an app within the channel itself and update, or you can download the update via that globe button on the HBC, if you have WiFi. Now you don't need to ake out Gamecube memory cards, and there are a few more changes.
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Re: Wii Homebrew Channel
« Reply #53 on: June 06, 2008, 03:33:58 PM »
They should enable online through the Wii so we can play some Phantasy stAR :p
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Re: Wii Homebrew Channel
« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2008, 03:54:09 AM »
Does anyone who knows about these things think moving the Twilight Hack save file to a different file would create any problems? I've been thinking of starting over in Twilight Princess, because I barely did anything when I got it, and starting a new file, and that would let me keep the hack there (I always have to have the first save file). It seems like it could come in handy and swapping out save files is annoying.
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Re: Wii Homebrew Channel
« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2008, 04:25:38 PM »
If you have the homebrew channel installed, then you don't need the twilight hack ever again.
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Re: Wii Homebrew Channel
« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2008, 06:49:35 PM »
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« Reply #57 on: June 16, 2008, 07:22:06 PM »
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Re: Wii Homebrew Channel
« Reply #58 on: June 16, 2008, 10:13:13 PM »
I accidentally installed the new System Update, then I immediately went to the Homebrew Channel, and thankfully it still worked. However, I read the Wii message from Nintendo and it said something about dangers posed by illegally modified save files, and sure enough when I went and looked through my save files the Twilight Princess save file that I used to install the homebrew channel was gone. I hope everyone that wanted the channel had it already.

One possible positive in this is how they did it. From what I hear the Freeloader uses the same technique to do what it does as the Twilight hack, Nintendo doing this in this waycould be seen as purposely not breaking the Freeloader (assuming it's not broken by the update).
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Re: Wii Homebrew Channel
« Reply #59 on: June 16, 2008, 11:23:33 PM »
Hmmm...haven't looked at any Wii-hacking related sites yet today, time for an update...
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Re: Wii Homebrew Channel
« Reply #60 on: June 17, 2008, 01:52:40 AM »
LOL talk about entrapment, I'm going to install this Homebrew channel because they have threated me with never again being able to.  Only then will I install the update.
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« Reply #61 on: June 17, 2008, 08:29:43 AM »
Looks like a workaround has already been found.  This is pretty annoying of Nintendo, but on the other hand at least they warn you and give you a chance to install the Homebrew Channel before updating.

I'm not sure if I care enough about homebrew to get into this arms race...  I mainly just wanted to try it because it's fun to make hardware do things it's not supposed to, and to finally get some actual use out of the damn SD card that I bought under the silly assumption that the Wii would use it for something.  On the other hand, now I kind of want to keep using homebrew just on principle.

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Re: Wii Homebrew Channel
« Reply #62 on: June 17, 2008, 09:26:00 AM »
The update message totally warns you that it will alter this stuff.  I don't remember the exact wording, but the warning was there.

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« Reply #63 on: June 17, 2008, 09:30:54 AM »
Yes, it says it will delete altered save games (Twilight Hack). You can't reinstall it if you update either. Use the workaround posted by shammack, if you want the update. I could care less about adding Miis to the Mii parade. There's not much else Nintendo can do beyond this to stop homebrew, any other steps could potentially brick some Wiis, and they don't want to get into that. They spent the past 3 months testing this update, and the *only* new feature is putting Miis in the Mii Parade, and blocking the Twilight Hack *without* bricking anyone's console.

Edit - yes, it does block the Freeloader and "trucha signed" discs (hacked Guitar Hero 3, etc.), but that code was added a long time ago, this update just makes the system use it.
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Re: Wii Homebrew Channel
« Reply #64 on: June 17, 2008, 07:29:06 PM »
I was doing a connection test because I switched from using a USB Wifi adapter I was testing to my standard Wireless router, and like it always does it asks if you want to update your Wii when it's finished. I stupidly clicked yes and updated without reading anything. Oh well, the channel still works, so I should just not delete the channel. This sucks for a friend who I showed it to over the weekend who expressed interest but wasn't ready to install it.

Looks like a workaround has already been found.  This is pretty annoying of Nintendo, but on the other hand at least they warn you and give you a chance to install the Homebrew Channel before updating.

I'm not sure if I care enough about homebrew to get into this arms race...  I mainly just wanted to try it because it's fun to make hardware do things it's not supposed to, and to finally get some actual use out of the damn SD card that I bought under the silly assumption that the Wii would use it for something.  On the other hand, now I kind of want to keep using homebrew just on principle.

This isn't an arms race if this is as far as Nintendo is willing to go. They've been testing this fix, that applies very specifically only to the Twilight Hack, for 3 months. They are working extremely hard to not brick any Wiis. The homebrew community will work much faster and much harder than Nintendo is willing to. If Nintendo is going to take months to patch holes they are going to be overrun very quickly. I don't understand why they'd bother with this if this is all they're willing to do, they have to know that they can't beat this this way.
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Re: Wii Homebrew Channel
« Reply #65 on: June 22, 2008, 10:14:17 AM »
Well, that didn't take too long, now did it?
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« Reply #66 on: June 22, 2008, 03:07:11 PM »
The patches aren't about stopping the hardcore homebrewer.  Nintendo knows that those people will always find a way, whether it be hardly ever updating or continually coming out with new exploits.
They update in order to keep the piracy part of it from gaining momentum and being easy for the casual user or the "casual hardcore" user.  Most people can hardly get one hack working so making them eventually obsolete makes them 1. never reach the mainstream. 2. Become a pain in the ass for normal people who play often making them second guess putting in the effort and taking the risk.  Everyone knows their is a group that will never be stopped and Nintendo knows that an inconvenience to them will stop some from ever hearing about it and stop others from ever trying at all.

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« Reply #67 on: June 22, 2008, 04:27:23 PM »
The thing is, aside from hacked VC & WiiWare channels, homebrew has nothing to do with piracy, at least in the case of the Wii. They do keep changing their DVD-ROM boards, making it harder to mod to play backups, which is a good thing.
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« Reply #68 on: June 22, 2008, 07:04:15 PM »
They do keep changing their DVD-ROM boards, making it harder to mod to play backups, which is a good thing.

How is that a good thing? Backups aren't pirated copies.
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« Reply #69 on: June 22, 2008, 09:22:27 PM »
I mean it's good for an anti-piracy measure. I have nothing against people playing legal backups, or having a modchip in general (I have a Cyclowiz in my system), but the vast majority of modchip users (which is still a tiny minority of all users) aren't playing backups of their own games.
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« Reply #70 on: June 22, 2008, 10:15:49 PM »
I was worried that I was going to do something to screw up my Homebrew Channel and not be able to reinstall it because I stupidly installed the update, so this is a relief. I guess I'm just a worrier, it's why my friends call me Whiskers.
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« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2008, 11:37:40 PM »
Because of all the headaches it involves, I'll only consider homebrew if I happen to get a second Wii.
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« Reply #72 on: June 23, 2008, 12:55:25 AM »
I was worried that I was going to do something to screw up my Homebrew Channel and not be able to reinstall it because I stupidly installed the update, so this is a relief. I guess I'm just a worrier, it's why my friends call me Whiskers.

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Re: Wii Homebrew Channel
« Reply #74 on: June 23, 2008, 09:55:39 AM »
The patches aren't about stopping the hardcore homebrewer.  Nintendo knows that those people will always find a way, whether it be hardly ever updating or continually coming out with new exploits.
They update in order to keep the piracy part of it from gaining momentum and being easy for the casual user or the "casual hardcore" user.  Most people can hardly get one hack working so making them eventually obsolete makes them 1. never reach the mainstream. 2. Become a pain in the ass for normal people who play often making them second guess putting in the effort and taking the risk.  Everyone knows their is a group that will never be stopped and Nintendo knows that an inconvenience to them will stop some from ever hearing about it and stop others from ever trying at all.
I guess it's also about being a pain in the ass for importers. I guess it worked, I'd have spent a lot of money on imports if it hadn't been for this, now I'm sitting here and buying nothing (and will probably not even buy those games I'm interested in now by the time they finally come out here). Great job Nintendo. Though maybe I'll just buy some imports out of spite and avoid new local purchases for a while (well, doesn't look like any worthwile games are coming out anyway).