Topic: The SSE mode: Sakurai's TRUE feelings? (SPOILERS!)

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Yeah my hopes for Brawl used to be up, then it became this gen's Mario Sunshine.

Iwata Time is KART TIME, oh yeah

[LuigiHann]

This would be an enjoyable thread and a fun discussion if people weren't being all "serious business" about it.

What I want to know, is why Kirby, Dedede, and Wario can eat items, but Yoshi can't.

[Smash_Brother]

I want to know why the Elite Beat Agents aren't playable.

...I mean, I want to know why none of the "eating" attack characters can't eat Olimar's Pikmin. It would've been hilarious to watch Wario eat a Pikmin and the ghost to come out of him.

[LuigiHann]

I think it's funny, I love the EBA as much as anybody, but I never had any delusion that they'd be considered a candidate for playable character. Maybe in the next Smash, assuming the EBA have a couple more games under their belt by then.

Eating Pikmin would be weird. I also noticed that you (and Munchlax) can never eat Pokeballs.

[Smash_Brother]

I'm largely kidding about the EBA, though why they're not an AT is beyond me.

But seriously, the whole point of Pikmin is that they get eaten. Why shouldn't the "eating" characters be able to do just that?

[Arbok]

While we are fielding random questions related to the choices made, I still really want to know why Mewtwo was left on the cutting room floor for Brawl. It's at least comforting for me to know that he was heavily considered, along with Roy going by the data on the disc... but why was he left out of the game? He played very different from Lucario, aside from their projectile, so I'm still a little miffed that he was cut when he was not a clone.

[Smash_Brother]

You'd have thought that they'd have stopped at two space furries and not gone on to the 3rd until they had M2 back in, I know.

[Adrock]

And I was pointing out that he makes his living selling products that don't work on Wii so his dung flinging and chest beating is natural, but Kojima is...well, a fruit bat. I've heard him say good things about the Wii as well, if I recall.

Well, I think either way, you have people who have never/rarely supported Nintendo platforms. That said, do their opinions really matter? Shouldn't they just, you know, shut up? And shouldn't Nintendo fans, you know, not care what they have to say because they haven't supported Nintendo in the past? I suppose you could argue that since Snake was in Brawl, Kojima somehow owes Nintendo, but Nintendo didn't have to say yes. Nintendo could've told Kojima to F-off and they'd be in the same exact position that they've always been in: with little to no support from Kojima and his team. I guess this really just shows that Nintendo is above childish name-calling and bashing. That or they got something in return that they haven't announced.

I'm trying to start a debate or anything, I'm just saying.

[Mikintosh]

You've obviously never been on gamefaqs before.

Yeah, way to aim high.

While we are fielding random questions related to the choices made, I still really want to know why Mewtwo was left on the cutting room floor for Brawl. It's at least comforting for me to know that he was heavily considered, along with Roy going by the data on the disc... but why was he left out of the game? He played very different from Lucario, aside from their projectile, so I'm still a little miffed that he was cut when he was not a clone.

If by "different" you mean "worse than Lucario in every respect" than you're right.

[Arbok]

If by "different" you mean "worse than Lucario in every respect" than you're right.

Ah ha, well ummm... his throws were much better. Yeah the problem with Mewtwo in Brawl was that he was incredibly weak. He just wasn't balanced very well at all. I don't think that should be grounds for throwing him out, though. I would have loved to see a balanced Mewtwo return to Brawl, and would have liked to see a neat telekinetic Final Smash akin to his rampage in Mewtwo Strikes Back, but Say-La-Vee.

[Mikintosh]

Yeah my hopes for Brawl used to be up, then it became this gen's Mario Sunshine.

Ouch, no game deserves that kind of slander!

If by "different" you mean "worse than Lucario in every respect" than you're right.

Ah ha, well ummm... his throws were much better. Yeah the problem with Mewtwo in Brawl was that he was incredibly weak. He just wasn't balanced very well at all. I don't think that should be grounds for throwing him out, though. I would have loved to see a balanced Mewtwo return to Brawl, and would have liked to see a neat telekinetic Final Smash akin to his rampage in Mewtwo Strikes Back, but Say-La-Vee.

Well I'm a bigger fan of the Kanto Pokemon then the later ones (hell, I saw the first movie opening weekend), but having him in the game just because would've defeated the purpose of taking out Dr. Mario, Roy, etc.

[Arbok]

Well I'm a bigger fan of the Kanto Pokemon then the later ones (hell, I saw the first movie opening weekend), but having him in the game just because would've defeated the purpose of taking out Dr. Mario, Roy, etc.

I disagree, since all of the others taken out were clones. Mewtwo stands out for being the only "original" that got cut.

[Dasmos]

Perhaps they attract different audiences? Maybe. Didn't even cross your mind, I bet.

By jove! Dasmos figured it out: Nintendo is trying to market to...THE SONY DEFENSE FORCE! Layton's apprentice saves the day!

Or maybe Snake was in the game because Kojima and Sakurai are friends...

Besides, if they're going to be pulling M rated characters into the game to attract a bigger crowd, they should just toss Master Chief in there and be done with it (not saying he's a good character, mind you, just far more popular and less emo than Snake).

LOL! S_B edited his comment with much more biting content than before. Trust me, I appreciate it.

[Smash_Brother]

LOL! S_B edited his comment with much more biting content than before. Trust me, I appreciate it.

Biting? Try silly.

I realized I was steering the thread toward being serious and that would spoil the wonderful frivolousness we have going here.

And stop looking for excuses to flatter yourself.

Ah ha, well ummm... his throws were much better. Yeah the problem with Mewtwo in Brawl was that he was incredibly weak. He just wasn't balanced very well at all. I don't think that should be grounds for throwing him out, though. I would have loved to see a balanced Mewtwo return to Brawl, and would have liked to see a neat telekinetic Final Smash akin to his rampage in Mewtwo Strikes Back, but Say-La-Vee.

I would've loved to see a balanced, powerful Mushu in Brawl as well. Even my friends who don't believe in tiers knew he was bottom tier in Melee, heh.

Speaking of which, BRAWL BALANCE, FTL...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ-AKKso_Po

[LuigiHann]

Speaking of which, BRAWL BALANCE, FTL...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ-AKKso_Po

I think if someone tried to "chaingrab" me when playing Brawl, I'd be justified in punching them in real life. That's just good, old-fashioned annoying.

[GoldenPhoenix]

::Looks at thread and what do I see::

-Aussies being their same unlikeable, arrogant selves
-Pap getting smeared and insulted for stating an opinion
-Mikintosh being his same old obnoxious fanboi self


Well that was fun. I'm leaving now.

[blackfootsteps]

Interestingly a google search of the terms 'Australians and likeable' results in 779,000 hits while a search of 'Americans and likeable' only gets 621,000. I can make sweeping statements too.

Edit: We do have you beat in the arrogance stakes though. 1.85 million to 1.81 million. 

[Arbok]

-Pap getting smeared and insulted for stating an opinion

Oh, the opinion card. Where people are expected to respect the thoughts of others by suppressing their own opinion...

Anyway, I don't see anyone insulting pap. There was a comment about him being too analytical of games, which he reiterated with a "shut up" at the end... but it was pretty civil up to that point.

[Mikintosh]

And I like how not entertaining conspiracy theories makes me a "fanboi". Why, I must be on Nintendo payroll to be spewing such crazyness!

[Smash_Brother]

And I like how not entertaining conspiracy theories makes me a "fanboi". Why, I must be on Nintendo payroll to be spewing such crazyness!

I KNEW it! YOU F*CKING SHILL!!!!

[LuigiHann]

I heard that Sakurai has Miyamoto's picture pinned to a dart board in his office

[Smash_Brother]

I heard that Sakurai has Miyamoto's picture pinned to a dart board in his office

Apparently, you heard right.

[GoldenPhoenix]

-Pap getting smeared and insulted for stating an opinion

Oh, the opinion card. Where people are expected to respect the thoughts of others by suppressing their own opinion...

Anyway, I don't see anyone insulting pap. There was a comment about him being too analytical of games, which he reiterated with a "shut up" at the end... but it was pretty civil up to that point.

::reads Dasmos's posts and a couple others:: No I think it is more about smearing than stating a opinion. I have ZERO problem with your responses. I'd take Mikintosh seriously if he hadn't been such an ardent defender of Smash Brother's perfection.

[NWR_pap64]

-Pap getting smeared and insulted for stating an opinion

Oh, the opinion card. Where people are expected to respect the thoughts of others by suppressing their own opinion...

Anyway, I don't see anyone insulting pap. There was a comment about him being too analytical of games, which he reiterated with a "shut up" at the end... but it was pretty civil up to that point.

Since when has a NWR discussion (much less a Brawl discussion) ever been civil?

And people bash ME for posting exaggerated facts and opinions... :p

[LuigiHann]

I heard that Sakurai has Miyamoto's picture pinned to a dart board in his office

Apparently, you heard right.

I love that song! And that actually reminds me, you'll get a kick out of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psy7IFSYRSE