Topic: The Starcraft mega thread - Rising from the ashes.

[Shorty McNostril]

You mean no more LAN? Or are you just referring to the lack of Spawn installs. It would suck if the only way you could play local multiplayer is via online like you have to do with certain Wii games.

Maybe the last part of the game will give us those things we want if we complain loudly enough.

LAN is not supported.  That was confirmed a while back.  There were rumors floating around that the Korean edition would support LAN, but I don't know how much substance is in them. 

[Stratos]

A PC game without LAN support?!? What's next, console games with no local multiplayer?...oh, wait  :

I really hate this 'internet age' we are in because devs all think that online is all we need. Local play is how we spread the word to our friends. They play with us and get the game for ourselves.

[NWR_insanolord]

I like to support Blizzard because they've always supported the Mac, not just on the same day but on the same disc, but I've learned over the years that I just don't like real-time strategy.

[Morari]

A PC game without LAN support?!? What's next, console games with no local multiplayer?...oh, wait  :

I really hate this 'internet age' we are in because devs all think that online is all we need. Local play is how we spread the word to our friends. They play with us and get the game for ourselves.

Exactly. I fear I'll have to skip out on Diablo III for the same reason. It's no wonder people think that PC gaming is dying when developers are practically pushing away their customers with ridiculous DRM.

[SixthAngel]

I didn't realize they stripped LAN out of this game too.
I never play LAN but it obviously brings people in, especially when your previous game became a freaking televised event in Korea.  It just seems retarded.

I'm going to take a wait and see approach.  I play the crap out of the single player but I don't really play much of the core RTS online.  With Warcraft 3 I played tower wars, Footman wars and other games but maybe the RTS online part once.
I'm going to wait and see if the single player is really worth it now that they've split it into three parts.  I don't want to pay full price for a third of the game.  With people here talking about a "new and improved battlenet" I think I should wait to see what kind of mods are made/allowed.

[Stratos]

I sure hope the 'new and improved battle net' doesn't turn into a free gimped version and a premium paid version.

[Shorty McNostril]

I didn't realize they stripped LAN out of this game too.
I never play LAN but it obviously brings people in, especially when your previous game became a freaking televised event in Korea.  It just seems retarded.

I'm going to take a wait and see approach.  I play the crap out of the single player but I don't really play much of the core RTS online.  With Warcraft 3 I played tower wars, Footman wars and other games but maybe the RTS online part once.
I'm going to wait and see if the single player is really worth it now that they've split it into three parts.  I don't want to pay full price for a third of the game.  With people here talking about a "new and improved battlenet" I think I should wait to see what kind of mods are made/allowed.

Yes it is a 3rd of the game, but each campaign is about 30 missions, 3x the length of the original campaigns.  The other 2 campaigns will be released for cheaper as expansions.

Midnight tonight it comes out, damn it me having to work tomorrow.

[SixthAngel]

Yes it is a 3rd of the game, but each campaign is about 30 missions, 3x the length of the original campaigns.  The other 2 campaigns will be released for cheaper as expansions.

I don't trust companies when they tell me how long a game is.  I'll wait for some hands on from regular people.  I'll believe the "expansions" will be cheaper when it actually happens.  I figure that waiting is best for me now anyway.  All three campaigns will be released in bundle for the price of a single game (or just slightly more) eventually, it happens with these things all the time.  When I pick it up any mods will be into the stages where they aren't completely rigged/broken too.

How will they do 3 times the length?  Are there 3 times as many units and upgrades?  Half the fun of the campaign is that you get a steady stream of new units and upgrades to keep each level unique and interesting.

[Shorty McNostril]

I read somewhere that there may be units in the SP campaign that aren't in the MP.  I think the firebat is an example. 

People waiting for the BattleChest edition with all 3 chapters may be waiting a while.  This is Blizzard remember. 

I just got given the day off tomorrow, so guess what I will be doing.

[Stratos]

I'm paid tomorrow...but I really shouldn't spend money on this...OH THE TEMPTATION!

[Morari]

People waiting for the BattleChest edition with all 3 chapters may be waiting a while.  This is Blizzard remember. 

I just got given the day off tomorrow, so guess what I will be doing.

I think that depends largely upon the release schedule for the next two installments. Chances are they'll come relatively quickly, as they're essentially just expansion packs. The original StarCraft is still sold in stores. I always liked WarCraft better myself, but I just can't see StarCraft II having the kind of staying power that the original did if Blizzard sticks to their guns on limited LAN play and forcing online connections for just about everything you do.

[broodwars]

I always liked WarCraft better myself, but I just can't see StarCraft II having the kind of staying power that the original did if Blizzard sticks to their guns on limited LAN play and forcing online connections for just about everything you do.

Woah woah...come again?  Blizzard is doing a Command & Conquer 4/Assassin's Creed 2 with this game and forcing you to always have an online connection to play?  I suddenly don't feel any regret in ignoring this game until the Battle Chest releases.   

[TJ Spyke]

In a curious move, Activision Blizzard has confirmed that no reviewer will get the game early. So anybody waiting for a review will have to wait until at least a week after the game comes out (depending on how long the reviewer takes to play the game and write the review), maybe they are worried about reviewers leaking the game online? Usually publishers only do this if they think the game will get bad reviews (similar to how movie studios will usually only not do early screenings if they they think it will get bad reviews).

[Pale]

I bet it's more of a logistical issue with their servers.  It's probably really "expensive" to turn the servers on for just a small subset of users.

[TJ Spyke]

Maybe, I am sure it won't matter anyways. Anybody who was planning to buy it at launch or shortly after launch wouldn't have change their minds based on reviews anyways, so no early reviews probably won't have any effect on sales numbers.

[broodwars]

The way I see it, StarCraft II is a review-proof game.  It'll probably turn a profit just based on the sales from Korea alone, so why should Activision-Blizzard ship out review copies to reviewers?  They won't gain any sales from having the game reviewed prior to launch, and they won't lose any sales from there being no reviews.

[Shorty McNostril]

I always liked WarCraft better myself, but I just can't see StarCraft II having the kind of staying power that the original did if Blizzard sticks to their guns on limited LAN play and forcing online connections for just about everything you do.

Woah woah...come again?  Blizzard is doing a Command & Conquer 4/Assassin's Creed 2 with this game and forcing you to always have an online connection to play?  I suddenly don't feel any regret in ignoring this game until the Battle Chest releases.   

I don't know about forcing online to play.  I haven't heard anything about that.  Only for MP. 

1 HR TO GO!!!!!

[Shorty McNostril]

INSTALLING NOW!!!!

[Stratos]

I passed a Wal-Mart on the way home and made a lot of tips tonight...just enough to buy the game in fact so I caved and bought it. Got a nifty poster too for free. I'm installing now.

[Shorty McNostril]

I got a T-Shirt free.  Awesome.

And in single player, there are HEAPS of extra units to use.  And for those bummed about being terran only, there are a couple of protoss missions in there.  Haven't come across any Zerg yet though.

[Shorty McNostril]

HOLY!!! NOVA IS IN THIS GAME.  The girl from the forgotten SC: Ghost.  Nice tie in.

[kraken613]

Downloading the game from a Guest Pass.... Try it out before the buy.

[broodwars]

Downloading the game from a Guest Pass.... Try it out before the buy.

There's essentially a demo to this game?  Where?

[TJ Spyke]

Apparently when you buy the game you get two guest passes that others can use. Some people in message boards are giving away their codes for them.

[kraken613]

I had a Steam friend who gave me one. It's 7 hours of gameplay or 14 days whichever come first.