Topic: Indiana Jones 4: KOCS (lol) first trailer

[ThePerm]

pish to anyone who insults temple of doom! I saw Temple of Doom first, i was four years old. After that I ran around in as close to indianna jones ware as i could. I had a cowboy hat, a brown jacket, and a jump rope. I like the other ones, but i just can't hate the temple of doom because it made me an indianna jones wannabe.

[animecyberrat]

Dear, ThePerm,

as an adamant hater of the Temple of Doom, I have concluded that we can no longer be friends, please vacate the premises immediately and return all of those ideas I let you borrow. thanks.



Sincerely


The biggest Temple of Doom hater out there.

[DAaaMan64]

I saw it, It was good. I liked it better than the Last Crusade. That is the only other one I've seen.  And screw you guys it's better than that.

[vudu]

as an adamant hater of the Temple of Doom, I have concluded that we can no longer be friends, please vacate the premises immediately and return all of those ideas I let you borrow. thanks.

I think we need to have a forum vote:  WHO GOES--THE RAT OR THE PERM?

[Smash_Brother]

There's a new expression originating from Indy 4: "Nuke the Fridge"

Nuke the fridge is a colloquialism used to refer to the moment in a film series that is so incredible that it lessens the excitement of subsequent scenes that rely on more understated action or suspense, and it becomes apparent that a certain installment is not as good as a previous installments, due to ridiculous or low quality storylines, events or characters.

The term comes from the film Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, in which, near the start of the movie, Harrison Ford's character survives a nuclear detonation by climbing into a kitchen fridge, which is then blown hundreds of feet through the sky whilst the town disintegrates. He then emerges from the fridge with no apparent injury. Later in the movie, the audience is expected to fear for his safety in a normal fistfight.

Fans of the Indiana Jones series found the absurdity of this event in the film to be the best example of the lower quality of this installment in the series, and thus coined the phrase, "nuke the fridge".

The phrase is also a reference to the phrase "jump the shark", which has the same meaning, only applied to a television series instead of a film series.

This phrase is not in common use.
"Star Wars didn't really nuke the fridge until Jar Jar Binks was introduced."

"Peter Parker dancing around the bar in Spider-Man 3? Kinda nukes the fridge!"

"The Godfather: Part III nukes the fridge."

"Gremlins 2 more or less nuked the fridge."

[DAaaMan64]

I like how Harrison Ford said "I've got a bad feeling about this." in this one just like he did in Star Wars

[UltimatePartyBear]

None of those examples match the definition as written.  Fail.

[NWR_pap64]

"Gremlins 2 more or less nuked the fridge."

I honestly enjoyed the movie for what it was; an extremely silly, over the top movie about a puppet based rampage.

The original movie had its shares of camp and cheesiness, but had some genuine terror and scares.

The sequel throws all of that away in favor of insanity and coffee fueled humor. Really, the Gremlins [b[hijack[/b] the movie and thus they get HULK HOGAN to order the Gremlins around, a guy dressed as a vampire covers the Gremlin invasion...while in costume, Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck open the film, a talking Gremlin emerges, Gizmo does a cute little dance, becomes Rambo for the last half of the movie...and the film ends with a guy marrying a tranny Gremlin...

If that wasn't enough to convince you the creators set out to be insanely silly, remember the scene in the first movie in which the girl tells the guy the reason she hates Christmas was because when she was a girl her father tried to go down the chimney as Santa, but got stuck and died? In the sequel, she mentions why she hates President's Day was because she once met a man dressed up as Lincoln.

If you see the movie as a sequel to a great and just plain fun Holiday movie (say what you want, its a Holiday movie) then you might be disappointed as its just too stupid and silly for its own good. But if you are willing to turn your brain off for a couple of hours and accept EVERYTHING that happens in the movie then you'll have a blast.

...And now I derailed the thread.

[Nick DiMola]

Well I just saw this tonight and walked away utterly disappointed. The film honestly had me at the beginning, even with the ridiculous "nuking of the fridge" scene. However, once the film hit the monkey scene it lost me. The rest of the film was ridiculous and as SB put it, a mockery to the rest of the series. I couldn't suspend belief to that point, it was just absurd.

Even more annoying was the way the movie smacked you in the face with obvious. The first scene made it clear that it was going to be about aliens, but they continued to drop hints throughout the film as if you didn't get it at the very beginning. Also if it wasn't obvious from the first scene with Shia LaBeouf that he is Indy's son, they made sure to constantly drop hints about that too, until the fact was finally revealed. The foreshadowing of Mud picking up the Indiana Jones legacy also couldn't be more obvious throughout the whole film as well.

I wish they would just leave all these old franchises alone. It seems like the script writers are simply incapable of continuing the legacy of the old films without jumping the shark, or in this case, nuking the fridge.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Thankfully most of the fans of the original film along with new fans enjoyed the movie, so I could care less about the hatred for the movie.

[animecyberrat]

On the topic of Gremlins 2, thanks Pap for bringing it up, I have always loved the first movie, it is one of my all time favorite movies. But something just didn't sit right with me with the second film. I liked it, for the most part, but the cheesiness was over the top. There were moments that tried to maintain the seriousness of the first movie but the above mentioned examples all hurt the overal tone of the film.


Then it hit me, well there are like 5 short little scenes within the movie that could easily be taken out and restore the film to it's true tone. So I began working on this edit myself, using Sony Vegas cuz that is what I have, and I succeeded in making a watchable edit of the film and still maintaining some fluidity. Too bad it is only for my own enjoyment and I know Warner Bros. will never make the "serious" edit that fans of the series always wanted. Or at least I always wanted.


But my I-Pod crashed on me before I could make a back up copy of the movie and now I have to reedit it all over again.

Now back to your regularly scheduled post.

[ThePerm]

Rat, go watch Zombie Nation and re-adjust how you look at movies. Temple of Doom is a great movie, if you think its shit, than you obviously haven't seen as many shitty movies as I have.

and remember, i watch 2.5 movies a day, i figure since Iv'e only been watching since I was around 3, and then sometimes i watch the same movie more then once that means i've seen about 5,000 movies. I'm 24.

[animecyberrat]

Well I don't think it is the worst movie I have ever seen, but it sure as hell did not seam good to me. But in all fairness I haven't seen it since I was like 8 or so, my memories could be skewed. I just remember hating it.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I actually really enjoy all four of the Indiana Jones films.

[Ian Sane]

I didn't like Temple of Doom much when I was a kid but watched it for the first time as an adult about a year ago... and loved it.  I still like the others better but it was great!

I think a big part of what I didn't like about it is that as a dumb kid with no attention span I couldn't figure out what was going on.  Raiders and Last Crusade set up the basic plot early on by having somebody assign Indy a specific mission to retreive an artifact.  So it's easy to follow.  It also has Christian artifacts and as a Christian it was something I could easily understand as a kid.

In Temple of Doom the artifact is based on the Hindu religion which as a kid I was very unfamiliar with.  The storyline isn't outlined at the beginning.  Indy had no clear mission.  He stumbles upon adventures and has to figure stuff out as he goes.  That sort of thing is rather difficult for a dumbsh!t little kid to understand.  So now that I'm an adult and actually pay attention to what's going on beyond action scenes and don't find "talking parts" boring Temple of Doom is a blast.  See it again and you'll like it.

On a related note, as a kid I didn't like Empire Strikes Back very much.  Yes that's right.  The Star Wars film that is widely considered the best one wasn't that good in my eyes because it had too much talking and big gaps between the action scenes.  It also has a more complicated storyline.  As a kid I didn't even get that the Empire were the evil government.  I just though they were the bad guys and the rebels were the good guys.  Obviously I wasn't very familiar with what "empire" or "rebel" meant.  I found it odd that people didn't seem to mind clear BAD GUYS like stormtroopers wandering around.  They should have called the good guys to get rid of them!

So while Star Wars and Return of the Jedi had simple "STOP THE BAD GUYS" plots, Empire didn't so I didn't get it as much.  Hell I didn't even get that the Rebels were hiding out on Hoth.  I was used to the old "good guy base/bad guy base" design of cartoon shows/action figure commercials.  Everyone is either a good guy or a bad guy and has a base of operations that is periodically attacked like it's capture the flag or something.

Yeah I was pretty dumb as a kid.  In fact my personality has changed so much it's odd to think of that as me.  The present day me would probably pick on grade school Ian.

[NWR_pap64]

Thankfully most of the fans of the original film along with new fans enjoyed the movie, so I could care less about the hatred for the movie.

I think you just defined the Wii fanbase without realizing it :p .

[animecyberrat]

Well I have been wanting to go back and re watch it for that same reason, but I just haven't made it a priority yet. But as of right now I still hate it and stand by that.

[ShyGuy]

Finally saw this in the theater today. The least of the series, but still an enjoyable way to spend a Saturday afternoon. Some small touches I liked:

- The Ark making a cameo.
- Indy working for the military and as a spy in the space between Last Crusade and this movie.
- tying in the Young Indiana Jones series with the mention of Pancho Villa.

[Nick DiMola]

Bumping this in honor of South Park, I laughed my ass off. I felt the episode truly highlighted my feelings of what Lucas and Spielberg did to poor ol' Indy.

[EasyCure]

i found that episode to be funny but not that funny...

why?

because i never saw KOCS and now after this i'll never want to watch it.. ever. Aliens, really? Nuking of a fridge??

I'm not that big of a fan but that episode does make me feel sad for the old chap.

[Nick DiMola]

Good, I hope the episode dissuaded anyone who was considering seeing the movie. It's terrible.

[Bill Aurion]

Such a goooood movie... ='D

[EasyCure]

a friend of mind thought it was bad timing,that this episode came out "so late after the movie released" but i dont see it that way since the DVD release is right around the corner.

Such a goooood movie... ='D

Everytime Butters said that i cracked up so hard, even if i didnt see the movie i got the fact that they were making fun of how bad it was and that of course Butters, the "idiot" of the group thinks it was good!

It reminded me of "make love not warcraft" where he admits to never have played WOW and when Cartman says "Butter's you told me you're on your computer all the time" and he replies "Yeah, playing Hello Kitty Island Adventure!"

lol

[Stogi]

I thought that episode was a little too much.....

I think South Park finally reached the limit on what they can and can't do. I admit, I laughed my ass off the first time they showed Indy getting raped, but why did they show it three other times? It just got too awkward and I couldn't bring myself to even watch it. It was like Pulp Fiction but seeing that same part over and over again without Bruce slicing the piece of **** with a sword.

Plus, the Cartman hating China thing could have been so much funnier. They ended up copping out with the whole shooting people in the dick thing (I thought it was funny at first, then it got old).

Anyway I give that episode a 3 out of 10

[EasyCure]

Stogi, did you see the movie? Or was it really too much to see Indy getting raped so graphically?

Me personally, didn't mind it so much. I didn't find it that funny but only because i didn't see KOCS or care that much for the character/series. I knew where they were coming from becuase they're passionate fans of those films and it was them expressing how they felt, so as graphic as it was even if i was as much a fan of Indiana Jones, I wouldn't think it was over the top at all.

Thats just me though.