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« Reply #275 on: January 29, 2008, 08:37:59 PM »
I'm still reeling over the awesomeness of the Electroplankton Hanebrow stage. Am I the only one blown away by this bit of slightly esoteric brilliance?!
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« Reply #276 on: January 30, 2008, 12:02:53 AM »
Wolf. Pretty much another clone of Fox. loooooooooool.



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« Reply #277 on: January 30, 2008, 12:03:33 AM »
Wolf is another straight-up clone, making me really suspect that SOMEONE high up on the development ladder was being a baby concerning Falco and got him to be left in...
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« Reply #278 on: January 30, 2008, 02:02:09 AM »
Wolf is such a badass, I'm pretty exited even if he is a fox clone.

Wonder if he's slower or faster than fox, Video needed!

Drop falco, put in Krystal and give her the staff!
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« Reply #279 on: January 30, 2008, 02:27:21 AM »
You know what's funny, I kind of think, sure, clones are annoying, but I don't mind them... I was against the inclusion of clones, but if they were going to include clones anyway, they could have included more clones.
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« Reply #280 on: January 30, 2008, 04:34:16 AM »
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I'm still reeling over the awesomeness of the Electroplankton Hanebrow stage. Am I the only one blown away by this bit of slightly esoteric brilliance?!


I am!  That's why I linked to it!
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« Reply #281 on: January 30, 2008, 04:37:24 AM »
No way.... Okay, it's bad enough that all three are clones, but why couldn't they have at least given Wolf a new Final Smash? I mean, has he ever even used a Landmaster?

Why..? The only thing I can think of is that someone saw the most used characters at tournaments (Fox and Falco) and figured this was due to the characters themselves, rather than that it was because both were top tier before.
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« Reply #282 on: January 30, 2008, 04:42:39 AM »
lol that is true, why did they give him a Landmaster?  That is lame. Isn't that in invention of Slippy's?  Or is that only the Blue Marine?
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« Reply #283 on: January 30, 2008, 04:54:26 AM »
Man... I'm still in shock that Wolf is a clone. I was hoping he would be unique to add some flair to the hidden characters, but now ROB and Lucario are the only ones. It's like rubbing salt in the wound that Mewtwo was cut too, since he was far different than Lucario and was removed yet here we have three slightly different versions of the same moveset in the game.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H6uRcUADi8

Video... to relieve the pain a little bit, at least he has a really cool aerial drill kick (up A)... but his B moves are all the same as Fox.
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« Reply #284 on: January 30, 2008, 05:14:18 AM »
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You know what's funny, I kind of think, sure, clones are annoying, but I don't mind them... I was against the inclusion of clones, but if they were going to include clones anyway, they could have included more clones.


As much as I dislike clones, I can agree with this.

If you're going to have the damn things in the game, you might as well artificially inflate the roster to 40-50 with them.

Only getting 35 characters out of it is like failing at being mediocre.

Stages look nice, but who cares? We can make our OWN stages anyway.
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« Reply #285 on: January 30, 2008, 05:21:33 AM »
Pre-made stages will always be better than user-created ones, that's not even arguable... =)
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« Reply #286 on: January 30, 2008, 05:25:03 AM »
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Pre-made stages will always be better than user-created ones, that's not even arguable... =)


Given the sheer number of Melee stages which we had TURNED OFF in the level switch because we all agreed that they sucked ass, I think it's perfectly arguable.

In fact, the level switch was created for exactly that purpose.

But all that aside, you doubt the creative power of the collective SSB community when it comes to building stages?! Shame on you, Bill. I'm quite certain user-made stages will become as, if not MORE, popular than the ones included. Good stages don't need flashing graphics or crazy crap going on to be good.

On another note, after Wolf was unlocked, the player got the "all characters unlocked" message. It's over: 35 is all she wrote.
 
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« Reply #287 on: January 30, 2008, 05:29:58 AM »
"I'm quite certain user-made stages will become as, if not MORE, popular than the ones included. Good stages don't need flashing graphics or crazy crap going on to be good."

I can't wait for SmashBoard's popular "Really Damn Flat" stage! =D

I'm just an obstacle-loving person, I guess...I love having crap thrown at me that I need to avoid while fighting...
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« Reply #288 on: January 30, 2008, 05:30:53 AM »
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I'm just an obstacle-loving person, I guess...I love having crap thrown at me that I need to avoid while fighting...


So did you miss the custom stage Stevey posted? That was full of hazards, and deaths caused by those hazards.
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« Reply #289 on: January 30, 2008, 05:38:05 AM »
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I'm just an obstacle-loving person, I guess...I love having crap thrown at me that I need to avoid while fighting...


Uh, yeah, someone posted a video of a stage which was entirely composed of ladders and platforms which fell off the bottom of the screen after you stood on them for too long.

And the "SSB community" isn't limited to Smashboards.
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« Reply #290 on: January 30, 2008, 06:24:37 AM »
Well, the final roster doesn't bother me as much as it does some of you all, but something's bugging me...

Why keep the clones (Ganondorf, Falco/Wolf, Ness, etc.) and then replace MewTwo with Lucario (who apparently shares only one move with MewTwo from Melee). That's a scratch-your-head kind of thing to me...
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« Reply #291 on: January 30, 2008, 06:33:24 AM »
Yeah, the exclusion of M2 is another "WTF, Sakurai?!" moment in this ordeal.
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« Reply #292 on: January 30, 2008, 06:36:21 AM »
I have a feeling the secret characters were all "phoned in" during the last few months of the game's development cycle. My guess is that Sakurai focused on finishing the starting roster, then pushed the characters off to the side to focus more on the extra modes and the SSE. That is seems to be the only explanation for why the secret roster is so blah in movesets and creativity. Since these may have been a last minute thing they may not have had time to spit out characters like Mewtwo.
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« Reply #293 on: January 30, 2008, 07:23:07 AM »
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Pre-made stages will always be better than user-created ones, that's not even arguable... =)




Given the sheer number of Melee stages which we had TURNED OFF in the level switch because we all agreed that they sucked ass, I think it's perfectly arguable.



I'll assume that's the royal "we" you're using there. I personally thought the only one that needed to be turned off was the unfair Icicle Mountain stage; the rest were great, and the ones in Brawl look even better.

As for the roster...who really wanted to see Mewtwo back, anyway? I never used him as he was too hard to control, and Lucario seems to be an improvement. I love the Pokemon games, but if Sakurai couldn't make him workable, then that's that. The guy's job is to make a video game, not fulfill the wishes of every single person out there. And in my opinion, what he promised, he delivered. You guys are just getting worked up because you found out about the clones last, unlike in Melee, where the original characters were split among the starting roster and the hidden one. Not really his fault.
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« Reply #294 on: January 30, 2008, 07:35:05 AM »
Am I the only one glad to see they removed Mewtwo? haha I thought he sucked and we already had too many Pokemon.  

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But I do understand those who liked him.
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« Reply #295 on: January 30, 2008, 07:43:27 AM »
so, has anyone determained how many charaters there are in the game all together?
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« Reply #296 on: January 30, 2008, 07:46:01 AM »
Mewtwo was really unique, I'm not glad to see him gone but not too sad to see him leave.  I would have liked it if they kept him in.  It seems like Sakurai focused his character choices around the SSE, I can't see why Wolf would have made it in over Krystal especially with Fox's moveset.  I'm not upset today, I know my friends will get a kick out of playing with Wolf even with his moveset.  

When I played with friends we usually ended up playing on Corneria, they hated moving stages, the only one I really disliked was Icicle Mountain.  I'm looking forward to making stages personally made for certain characters.  
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« Reply #297 on: January 30, 2008, 07:49:54 AM »
35 characters, NeoThunder...

"Uh, yeah, someone posted a video of a stage which was entirely composed of ladders and platforms which fell off the bottom of the screen after you stood on them for too long."

I guess I should have been more specific..."Things thrown at me that ties me to a stage" like karts driving by on the Mario Kart stage or the Grubdog trying to eat you on the Pikmin stage...It's not that I won't use the Stage Builder (I have some ideas myself), but in the end they are generic in comparison to most of the pre-made stages...But in the end it doesn't matter, because there are 41 pre-set stages and infinite custom stages...  

Oh, and it seems you can't use custom stages online either, cue up more bitching I guess...
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« Reply #298 on: January 30, 2008, 08:27:44 AM »
Wait, you can't use them in friend matches online?!
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« Reply #299 on: January 30, 2008, 08:30:48 AM »
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Mewtwo was really unique, I'm not glad to see him gone but not too sad to see him leave.  I would have liked it if they kept him in.  It seems like Sakurai focused his character choices around the SSE, I can't see why Wolf would have made it in over Krystal especially with Fox's moveset.  I'm not upset today, I know my friends will get a kick out of playing with Wolf even with his moveset.  



When I played with friends we usually ended up playing on Corneria, they hated moving stages, the only one I really disliked was Icicle Mountain.  I'm looking forward to making stages personally made for certain characters.


Wolf is awesome, I would have just traded Falco for Krystal.  
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