Author Topic: Writers strike is on (Read 20113 times)

GoldenPhoenix · « **on:** November 01, 2007, 04:59:38 PM »

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Finally, this gets underway with a standing ovation for the WGA committee that has been leading the way during these labor negotiations. It's a full house, and everyone is at rapt attention as leaders discuss where negotiations stand.

A few minutes into the gathering, there is no more uncertainty: There will be a strike, leaders tell the thousands of WGA members in attendence. Leaders will send out a press release tomorrow afternoon, telling members precisely when the strike will begin. The Screen Actors Guild president says the actors guild is in full support of the strike and will stand by the writers for as long as it takes.

Not sure how many have been paying attention, but this could very well mean seasons cut short of most scripted shows (But we still will get those crappy reality shows and perhaps more!), and many of Hollywood's movies could be ground to a halt with no writers to polish or write scripts. Some even predict that this strike could potentially ruin the economy of California, or at least hurt it immensely. Whether that is the case or not, we'll see, but regardless expect seasons to be cut short for shows along with the quality possibly dwindling, especially for serialized TV shows (if they are even made now).

that Baby guy · « **Reply #1 on:** November 01, 2007, 05:22:29 PM »

This sucks for people who like TV. I don't know the politics or the goal, but I do know that this needs to be solved quickly for most places not to notice an effect. We're going to get a lot of news, though.

Now, what about SNL? Brian Williams is going to be the host, so he's in the clear from the strike, but the writers of the show aren't, right? So how can that work. I'm so confused...

Kairon · « **Reply #2 on:** November 01, 2007, 05:24:04 PM »

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

UGLY BETTYYYYYYYYY!!!!!

Stogi · « **Reply #3 on:** November 01, 2007, 05:27:51 PM »

Do they really get paid like sh!t?

Sounds like a bunch of whiny bitches.....

ShyGuy · « **Reply #4 on:** November 01, 2007, 06:20:35 PM »

I'm willing to cross the picket line and work as a scab writer. Give me call, NBC!

edit: wait, Ugly Betty? You're really a manly man, aren't you Kairon?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #5 on:** November 01, 2007, 06:28:12 PM »

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This sucks for people who like TV. I don't know the politics or the goal, but I do know that this needs to be solved quickly for most places not to notice an effect. We're going to get a lot of news, though.

Now, what about SNL? Brian Williams is going to be the host, so he's in the clear from the strike, but the writers of the show aren't, right? So how can that work. I'm so confused...

I am not sure about the specifics, but I do know many talk shows like Leno, Colbert, Stewart and others could very well be affected so SNL may be as well. This strike, unless it is resolved soon, will more than likely stall new shows (they could even be canned because of it), halt production on movies (especially ones that have only been recently announced), and shorten seasons for TV shows. Freshmen year TV shows like Bionic Woman, Pushing Daisies, Reaper and a myriad of others could have seasons cut short which could spell the end to them.

Kairon · « **Reply #6 on:** November 01, 2007, 06:38:49 PM »

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edit: wait, Ugly Betty? You're really a manly man, aren't you Kairon?

I used to watch Gilmore Girls before it got predictable and dragged-out.

But don't worry about me Shyguy. I own Brave Heart, Starship Troopers, and both Demolition Man and Judge Dredd. I think I'm safe.

IceCold · « **Reply #7 on:** November 01, 2007, 06:40:29 PM »

Nooo! Pushing Daisies!

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #8 on:** November 01, 2007, 06:44:47 PM »

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Nooo! Pushing Daisies!

It would be too bad if that show was hurt, it is so unique compared to most of the run of the mill stuff on TV now days (Kind of like Dead Like Me was before it, created by the same guy).

Stogi · « **Reply #9 on:** November 01, 2007, 06:54:43 PM »

I'm a big fan of South Park, Boondocks, Scrubs, Daily Show/Colbert Report, House M.D., and Avatar.

I hope nothing happens to those shows.

wandering · « **Reply #10 on:** November 01, 2007, 06:57:10 PM »

Good thing there's nothing good on TV.

nickmitch · « **Reply #11 on:** November 01, 2007, 07:14:26 PM »

These lazy dicks just need to write better. Too much TV is crap for writers to get paid anything more than $75 and some kitty litter, monthly.

Kairon · « **Reply #12 on:** November 01, 2007, 07:39:51 PM »

Actually, isn't a lot of TV GOOD now? I mean, I don't watch a lot of TV mainly because I have an inability to consistently remember that a show is on at some arbitrary time on a specific day week after week, but... haven't things gotten better?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #13 on:** November 01, 2007, 07:43:54 PM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
Actually, isn't a lot of TV GOOD now? I mean, I don't watch a lot of TV mainly because I have an inability to consistently remember that a show is on at some arbitrary time on a specific day week after week, but... haven't things gotten better?

I have a ton of shows I watch on TV:

Lost, Smallville, Battlestar Galactica (I am most worried about this one), Heroes, Reaper, Pushing Daisies, Bionic Woman (not the best but still fun), Stargate Atlantis, Supernatural, and ::hides face:: Flash Gordon (Hey it has gotten better).

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #14 on:** November 01, 2007, 08:26:52 PM »

Thought I'd update this with what a writer makes according to this CNN Money.

Those poor writers only make 70k a season! They are virtually in the poor house! A story editor only gets paid a 3 figure income with 30k for an hour long script. Oh yeah to top it off, the Screen Actors Guild may go on strike this summer along with the directors. Who would have thought that Hollywood stars were that poverty stricken?

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 01, 2007, 08:28:48 PM »

wow. reminds me of the poor poor cry baby baseball players when they went on strike.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #16 on:** November 01, 2007, 08:28:59 PM »

I only have enough free time for games and arguing about games with you guys...

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #17 on:** November 01, 2007, 08:30:38 PM »

Maybe we should form the NWR Writers Club and fill in for all these writers on strike? If anything...

THIS IS YOUR CHANCE EVAN, AN OPENING HAS BEEN MADE FOR YOU!

Adrock · « **Reply #18 on:** November 01, 2007, 08:34:41 PM »

That'd be a shame if this affected Pushing Daisies. I haven't watched the show (I want to!!!), but Bryan Fuller has terrible luck. He's a brilliant creator.... yet all his shows get axed. Why?

SixthAngel · « **Reply #19 on:** November 03, 2007, 07:59:16 AM »

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Thought I'd update this with what a writer makes according to this CNN Money.

Those poor writers only make 70k a season! They are virtually in the poor house! A story editor only gets paid a 3 figure income with 30k for an hour long script. Oh yeah to top it off, the Screen Actors Guild may go on strike this summer along with the directors. Who would have thought that Hollywood stars were that poverty stricken?

I wouldn't trust that quote at all. It says newcomers who work as a full time writer. Besides the fact that I have no idea how many full time writers shows actually hire, or if most writers even work full-time anywhere, and I doubt almost any show actually hires newcomers for large amounts of time. It is pretty misleading unless you know actual hiring practices and how things work in the expensive Hollywood.

Writers are arguably the most important part of film and movies and they often get screwed compared to everyone else who contributes to what is filmed. Let them strike, they deserve more. With a possible actors guild strike in the works the producers and networks should be in a weak position and I hope they are forced to give more credit and money to quality writers.

Shift Key · « **Reply #20 on:** November 03, 2007, 12:15:25 PM »

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Originally posted by: wandering
Good thing there's nothing good on TV.

Kairon · « **Reply #21 on:** November 03, 2007, 12:22:37 PM »

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
::hides face:: Flash Gordon (Hey it has gotten better).

Haha! I watch Flash Gordon because the writers are just so... artless... it's almost refreshingly un-apologetic!

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #22 on:** November 03, 2007, 01:23:25 PM »

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Thought I'd update this with what a writer makes according to this CNN Money.

Those poor writers only make 70k a season! They are virtually in the poor house! A story editor only gets paid a 3 figure income with 30k for an hour long script. Oh yeah to top it off, the Screen Actors Guild may go on strike this summer along with the directors. Who would have thought that Hollywood stars were that poverty stricken?

I wouldn't trust that quote at all. It says newcomers who work as a full time writer. Besides the fact that I have no idea how many full time writers shows actually hire, or if most writers even work full-time anywhere, and I doubt almost any show actually hires newcomers for large amounts of time. It is pretty misleading unless you know actual hiring practices and how things work in the expensive Hollywood.

Writers are arguably the most important part of film and movies and they often get screwed compared to everyone else who contributes to what is filmed. Let them strike, they deserve more. With a possible actors guild strike in the works the producers and networks should be in a weak position and I hope they are forced to give more credit and money to quality writers.

Now if only there were more quality writers out there, maybe I'd agree with you. The vast majority of terrible average. Don't even get me started on the actors guild.

mantidor · « **Reply #23 on:** November 03, 2007, 04:55:56 PM »

Well the only thing I watch download is Heroes, oh and Ugly Betty as well, just to check how our original concept gets ripped into pieces by your writers (ok its actually not that bad...). With the way Heroes is going I think they will actually benefit from the strike, because the writers they have right now are terrible, anyone could do better.

I used to watch House, but it ended up boring me. I guess I'm better off sticking to games like Bill

SixthAngel · « **Reply #24 on:** November 03, 2007, 11:29:17 PM »

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Originally posted by: mantidor
Well the only thing I watch download is Heroes, oh and Ugly Betty as well, just to check how our original concept gets ripped into pieces by your writers (ok its actually not that bad...). With the way Heroes is going I think they will actually benefit from the strike, because the writers they have right now are terrible, anyone could do better.

Except Heroes was supposed to be only have one season based on those characters. Originally they wanted make the next season have all new characters in the same world but some brass up top saw the popularity and thought that somehow it would be best for ratings if they forced characters into new situations ensuring it would suck. The writers weren't the ones who decided to do this so don't blame them for being told to polish a turd.

There are good writers out there and but it is difficult for them to shine. The writer of great movie doesn't get credit like a director or actor does so it is often difficult to follow them. Not to mention that huge studios often get a good script and then send to more and more studio writers to "polish" it usually destroying the original vision. The studios, directors, and sometimes even actors often have the power to push their writers around like that.

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Author Topic: Writers strike is on (Read 20113 times)