Author Topic: Heroes 2 (Read 28938 times)

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #75 on:** November 05, 2007, 02:06:15 PM »

Nice twist at the end with Kensei being Adam

It's stuff like that that holds my attention.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #76 on:** November 05, 2007, 05:08:35 PM »

The Adam reveal was nice, I'm glad the mediocre Japan arc is over. Hiro's Kryptonite is Opium!
DL was brought back (sort of) in a nice way.
Yay for no Wonder Twins.
I hope Claire's Flyboy gets killed.
Same goes for Peter's Irish girl.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #77 on:** November 05, 2007, 05:18:30 PM »

Peter's Irish girl is stuck in the future.

And next episode will finally start answering some questions.

matt oz · « **Reply #78 on:** November 06, 2007, 10:20:34 AM »

I had the Adam reveal spoiled for me, but it didn't really matter, since it's much bigger than just who it is. (If that makes any sense)

Matt is such a badass now, fully realizing his powers. Very very impressive. Molly's starting to annoy me though.

Only four more episodes in this volume!

mantidor · « **Reply #79 on:** November 06, 2007, 03:51:07 PM »

Boo, I miss the twins.

I liked this episode and I can't wait for the twins to come back

ok, honestly their story is boring, but so is everyone elses. What I like about Maya and Sylar is they are the only ones with "normal" reactions to these powers, I hate how everyone is traumatized because they can do things like flying, regenerating, reading minds or other really cool stuff. Maya is one of those very few mutants, like rogue, who actually has a reason to fear and not want their power, she probably killed her own family. And Sylar is something that would obviously happen, someone envious of powers that wants them because of an inferiority complex, its such damn obvious things but comics always fail to adress them, so I like to see them here.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #80 on:** November 06, 2007, 04:34:10 PM »

I want to know if Peter can do everything Matt can do, or if he's still limited to reading minds. Can he create major illusions, trap people in their minds, force them comatose, and telepathically send them messages? I mean, he did come in contact with Matt, and we know Matt, Maury, and Candice at least have the same potential abilities. Not only that, but telekinesis is in the same bubble, too, so when Sylar gets his abilities back, will he potentially be able to demonstrate the same things Maury has? He does have telekinesis and all that.

Then, of course, I want to know which abilities are related this way: Is flying a type of telekinesis, therefore part of the mental control powers? Are the muscle-mimicking powers and the ultra-memory powers on the same base? To that effect, how does super-strength fit in? Is it on the same branch as advanced muscle memory? What group does Molly's powers fit into? If I had to guess, it would probably be the same group as foresight.

Electricity would either be an aspect of telekinesis, or would be an aspect of transfering molecules, like DL's abilities. I think D.L.'s abilities are closest to Hiro's, honestly, so they may fall under the same branch.

Of course, Clair and Adam/Kensei have the same abilities, but we now know that they could develop the type of healing that Linderman possessed, too, since we know that the ability that initially manifests isn't the only ability possible. Anyways, if you didn't read the first question in the link I posted above, you should be at a loss to what I'm talking about, so get to work on that!

Ceric · « **Reply #81 on:** November 07, 2007, 03:13:29 AM »

Hey, Irish girl is not that bad. I rather trade her death for the death of X-File Goo Girl.

mantidor · « **Reply #82 on:** November 07, 2007, 01:47:43 PM »

Trying to put any logic in the powers is a dead end. I just take them for granted without explanation, even the completely out of the absurd like sylar's magic into seeing how a brain works.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #83 on:** November 07, 2007, 03:01:25 PM »

Ah, see, his power would be in the same base as Charlie's, actually. He read Dr. Suresh's book all about the evolutions, and he was able to understand how the abilities worked even better than Dr. Suresh, so much so that he was able to make the change anywhere he could "investigate further."

Anyways, because Sylar adapted himself to be telekinetic, he could potentially create illusions to the degree Candice did, read minds, trap people in their own nightmares, and telepathically send thoughts to others. Isn't it nice to know potential? Now we know Sylar has more potential than he knows he does, or else he would have known it would be unnecessary to kill Candice.

SixthAngel · « **Reply #84 on:** November 07, 2007, 06:51:23 PM »

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Ah, see, his power would be in the same base as Charlie's, actually. He read Dr. Suresh's book all about the evolutions, and he was able to understand how the abilities worked even better than Dr. Suresh, so much so that he was able to make the change anywhere he could "investigate further."

Anyways, because Sylar adapted himself to be telekinetic, he could potentially create illusions to the degree Candice did, read minds, trap people in their own nightmares, and telepathically send thoughts to others. Isn't it nice to know potential? Now we know Sylar has more potential than he knows he does, or else he would have known it would be unnecessary to kill Candice.

Telekinesis and telepathy are completely separate powers so having one does not give a person another. Matt's power makes so much sense to let him input thoughts as well that I doubt anyone else will unlock some power they didn't know. Since this is basically X-men look there for explanations, or what little there are.

The show is getting better now that everyone's story is starting to connect but the the the cliches are still getting to me. Matt somehow telepathically defeats his dad on his first time using his power, despite his dad's 30 years experience in mind raping, because he had the motivation of love. They also still need to explain how Sylar got into the middle of Mexico after escaping an island with a sword wound in his chest that should have definitely killed him.

Speaking of Sylar that guy is a wimp now. He was busy killing defenseless men, woman and children the first season, he wasn't fighting these new Heroes that could easily kill him even with his powers. Veronica Mars could easily kill him with lightning, Maury and Matt make Sylar look like a punk, he doesn't stand a chance against the wonder twins without a surprise attack, then theres a Hiro with actual control of his powers, the Hatian, and of course Peter who just keeps getting stronger. Since none of Sylar's jutsu would work against the black girl's sharingan there's another loss.

Shecky · « **Reply #85 on:** November 12, 2007, 05:47:16 PM »

Just "caught up" via the web site... so nice of them.

Messed up story wise though... to many "you should know that" moments. Clair not putting together than her Dad might still be trying to take down the company like she knew he was doing ... and just not "thinking" in general for example.

Nathan's quote on "What's with everyone.... always half-truths, never a straight answer" is 100% accurate, and it wearing on me a bit. To much ducking, dodging, and weaving, that it becomes a chore to watch.... or care.

So Hiro is Luke Skywalker, and Adam is Darth Vader of sorts... they are this series main characters from what I can tell.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #86 on:** November 12, 2007, 06:14:58 PM »

Even though this was a fill in the gaps episode, it was well done. Keeping the plot lines narrowed down to the Petrelli's, The wonder twins, and Nikki almost keeps the show manageable! Electric Veronica Mars is interesting, I kinda like her.

Shecky · « **Reply #87 on:** November 13, 2007, 12:06:45 AM »

So I guess I caught up on all but the last episode which aired yesterday from the site. There's just way to many ulterior motives and hidden agendas that it's painful. I mean name a single character that's cut and dry...

Ceric · « **Reply #88 on:** November 13, 2007, 12:30:11 AM »

Best episode of this season. Which isn't saying much but it is.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #89 on:** November 13, 2007, 02:26:30 AM »

1) I guess Peter now has the Hatian's power now too?

2) Does the Hatian's power even really work against Peter? Because we all know how unreliable (in general) his powers have been to him, he could have just been unable to use them at the time?

3) Maybe this is why Peter has a hard time using his powers when he wants?

that Baby guy · « **Reply #90 on:** November 13, 2007, 02:36:04 AM »

SixthAngel, you didn't read what was in the link. The show's writers had grouped Telekinesis and Telepathy in the same "pool" of powers. They said that Matt, Maury, and Candice all had potential to be telekinetic, but that they won't necessarily.

Anyways, tonight's episode was the first one I didn't like much this season. Too many actions made too little sense or happened too easily, IMO. At least they got it done with only one episode.

Ceric · « **Reply #91 on:** November 13, 2007, 02:52:08 AM »

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Originally posted by: thatguy
SixthAngel, you didn't read what was in the link. The show's writers had grouped Telekinesis and Telepathy in the same "pool" of powers. They said that Matt, Maury, and Candice all had potential to be telekinetic, but that they won't necessarily.

Anyways, tonight's episode was the first one I didn't like much this season. Too many actions made too little sense or happened too easily, IMO. At least they got it done with only one episode.

Wait have you watched this season. That sums up all the other episodes for me but everything taking much much longer.

Though I seriously think this was actually originally written as the first episode for the season but they switched it so they could have that whole who am I Peter thing being more suspenseful and Adams reveal.

matt oz · « **Reply #92 on:** November 19, 2007, 02:18:47 PM »

Okay, so how many Heroes have/had powers of persuasion?

First, Eden could make people do stuff just by talking to them.
Mama Petrelli can make people do stuff just by touching them.
Now, Matt can make people do stuff just by thinking it in their general direction.

This seems kind of repetitive, doesn't it?

Otherwise, tonight's episode was awesome. All it needed was less Hiro.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #93 on:** November 19, 2007, 05:35:08 PM »

I knew they couldn't do it. The show would have lost too much of its edge w/o HRG.
But the ending just left me wanting more. And I agree about the Hiro comment. Why should we and the show slow down just so Hiro can catch up?
The spent a big chunk of the show on Hiro finding out what the rest of us had already known for about two weeks now. He should have just traveled back to 2 weeks ago and watched the episode with the rest of us.

UncleBob · « **Reply #94 on:** November 19, 2007, 05:43:41 PM »

I think they probably felt they had to explain why Hiro didn't go back in time and prevent his father from being murdered. I mean, I assumed he was going to try to do that when he got back.

mantidor · « **Reply #95 on:** November 20, 2007, 02:29:50 PM »

I didn't mind Hiro's plotline this ep, even though I generally hate them. It gave closure and open the new storyline with his archinemesis. The rest was great, the stories really become interesting when they meet one another, by themselves they are just awful.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #96 on:** November 24, 2007, 06:01:17 AM »

Sometimes I think this show moves in too bold of strokes. A couple of episodes later and Parkman is abusing his powers? Mohinder is ready to kill? HRG and fly boy are buddy-buddy? Characters switch sides way too fast this season.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #97 on:** November 24, 2007, 06:04:40 AM »

I think things are being rushed and episodes were rewritten because of the impending writers strike.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #98 on:** November 24, 2007, 06:30:04 AM »

That makes sense. I could see the events of the latest episode being stretched over two shows.

matt oz · « **Reply #99 on:** November 27, 2007, 03:18:12 AM »

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I think things are being rushed and episodes were rewritten because of the impending writers strike.

At first, I thought "no way" because these episodes must have been filmed before the strike started. All along, chapter 2 was going to be episodes 1-11 and chapter 3 was going to be 12-23. But after watching the horrible dialogue of last night's episode, I'm convinced that a cameraman or a lighting person must have written the script.

Other stuff I didn't like: still not finding out definitively what the Petrelli parents' powers are, still not knowing wtf Maaaaiiijjjjaaaa and Monica have to do with anything, having Rose from 'Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead' die before we even got to see her kick someone's ass or even reveal what her power is.

In a way, I'm glad the rest of the season is delayed because maybe then Tim Kring will learn how to tell a story that has a decent payoff.

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