Author Topic: Metroid Prime 3 Coming to a TV Near You (Read 23243 times)

18 Days · « **Reply #50 on:** August 26, 2007, 01:27:09 AM »

These Wii WOuld Like TO Play ads are atrocious.

mantidor · « **Reply #51 on:** August 26, 2007, 04:49:36 AM »

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We got Metroid Hunters because of casual gamers?

Your points are confusing at best.

My point is that we got hunters because some people thought Prime was another FPS, and their collective whining was loud enough for Nintendo to take notice and start raping the series.

I really don't care if the ads are attacking the gamer stereotype or not, thats the least of my concerns, I only don't want that scenario to happen again, that people complain about the game not because an actual flaw but because its Metroid and does Metroid things (backtracking, difficulty, item collection, etc, etc), since Nintendo will continue changing the series from what it originally was into another generic thing.

I would also say that its too late and Metroid will never be again what it was based on my impressions of corruption, what Retro said about cutting the backtracking, visiting planets, open areas, etc, etc. But for that I better wait for the reviews and more real hands-on impressions to hear what old time metroid fans have to say about this changes.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #52 on:** August 26, 2007, 06:15:49 AM »

Nostalgia has a nasty habit of not allowing people to accept change, even if it's for the better...

Mashiro · « **Reply #53 on:** August 26, 2007, 06:18:56 AM »

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My point is that we got hunters because some people thought Prime was another FPS, and their collective whining was loud enough for Nintendo to take notice and start raping the series.

I really don't care if the ads are attacking the gamer stereotype or not, thats the least of my concerns, I only don't want that scenario to happen again, that people complain about the game not because an actual flaw but because its Metroid and does Metroid things (backtracking, difficulty, item collection, etc, etc), since Nintendo will continue changing the series from what it originally was into another generic thing.

See the whole "people complained and thus hunters happened" statement doesn't hold much water because well hunters isn't a main stay in the series first of all. Secondly, what massive complaining and whining are you talking about? Prime got rave reviews across the board. It was one of the best selling games on the Gamecube. This complaining and negativity you speak of, I just never saw it or heard about it.

I mean would you say Metroid Prime Pinball was a result of complaining and whining as well? No, it was a result of them just doing something different with the series.

We'll see what happens with Prime 3 tomorrow but I don't have any doubts in my mind that it won't be an awesome metroid experience.

Edit: Bill sums it up nicely actually:

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Nostalgia has a nasty habit of not allowing people to accept change, even if it's for the better...

Well said Bill, well said.

mantidor · « **Reply #54 on:** August 26, 2007, 07:24:18 AM »

The thing is, games like Metroid are very, very rare. If there was some oversaturation of these type of games in the market you may have a point, but the only other game who emulates (and not that well) the metroid formula is castlevania, I'm only asking for more because there isn't really a lot of it.

The problem isn't related to the status of hunters as a main stay of the metroid series, is related to the fact that the DS hasn't seen a real Metroid game and there's no hope for the near or even distant future. At this point Mario and Zelda already have great games, but not Metroid, and theres no plans for it, I would love to see what a touch screen would bring to a real Metroid game, but apparently Nintendo doesn't want to do it.

And the even funnier thing is, I have no nostalgia for metroid, my first metroid game was Prime, and I played Super Metroid around the same time, and it blew me away like few games have done it, it had nothing to do with some past experience when I was younger.

You do have a point, with or without complains pinball and hunters would have probably happened, its just that... the whole situation just pisses me off.

Mashiro · « **Reply #55 on:** August 26, 2007, 07:33:52 AM »

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The problem isn't related to the status of hunters as a main stay of the metroid series, is related to the fact that the DS hasn't seen a real Metroid game and there's no hope for the near or even distant future.

But why do you think there is no hope?

Just because a more traditional metroid game hasn't been announced for DS doesn't mean it won't happen.

How much has Nintendo really shown us about its 2008 line up? Little to nothing, so I wouldn't give up hope just yet.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #56 on:** August 26, 2007, 08:23:54 AM »

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Nostalgia has a nasty habit of not allowing people to accept change, even if it's for the better...

Sometimes. But sometimes "changes for the better" are really just changes for a different audience, in which case "nostalgia" is just an excuse to ignore the old audience's opinions.

Not saying this is necessarily the case with Prime 3 since the game isn't even out yet. It's just that I've seen the nostalgia argument thrown around unfairly before, which bothers me.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #57 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:38:28 AM »

"Sometimes. But sometimes "changes for the better" are really just changes for a different audience, in which case "nostalgia" is just an excuse to ignore the old audience's opinions."

I think my scenario is more likely considering the positive impressions so far, which is why I brought up the "nostalgia factor" in the first place... =)

Kairon · « **Reply #58 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:42:27 AM »

Who decides what's "better?"

Mashiro · « **Reply #59 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:45:53 AM »

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Who decides what's "better?"

You do.

Kairon · « **Reply #60 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:51:47 AM »

Okay...hmmmm....

*Rating Pending*

Mashiro · « **Reply #61 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:56:17 AM »

::glee:: just 14 hours away from me getting the game and playing it can't wait!

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #62 on:** August 26, 2007, 12:13:24 PM »

I want to know why Mantidor cares about how MP3 is handled, he already said he was disappointed in the game back months ago.

Ceric · « **Reply #63 on:** August 26, 2007, 02:39:21 PM »

I probably missed some comments but I just saw this. I just wanted to say I like the commercial but it would have been cool to see Samus at the controls at the end of the commercial.

UERD · « **Reply #64 on:** August 26, 2007, 02:45:19 PM »

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I want to know why Mantidor cares about how MP3 is handled, he already said he was disappointed in the game back months ago.

Because it's been confirmed that the game will suck. Duh, you said it yourself.

Mario · « **Reply #65 on:** August 26, 2007, 04:10:06 PM »

Metroid Pinball is a fantastic game the world would be worse off without, the end. And guys, the best way to deal with Ian is to ignore him, 1 Ian post is better than 5.

Kairon · « **Reply #66 on:** August 26, 2007, 04:19:56 PM »

When did Ian come into this?

Mashiro · « **Reply #67 on:** August 26, 2007, 04:28:17 PM »

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When did Ian come into this?

Ok good . . . I thought I missed something lol.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #68 on:** August 26, 2007, 04:42:18 PM »

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Metroid Pinball is a fantastic game the world would be worse off without, the end. And guys, the best way to deal with Ian is to ignore him, 1 Ian post is better than 5.

For the record, Ian's right a lot more than we give him credit for. There's nothing wrong with having and sharing an opinion with others.

Kairon · « **Reply #69 on:** August 26, 2007, 04:51:12 PM »

Except when you're wrong. Haha j/k we love you Ian and Svevan!

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #70 on:** August 26, 2007, 07:30:52 PM »

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Metroid Pinball is a fantastic game the world would be worse off without, the end. And guys, the best way to deal with Ian is to ignore him, 1 Ian post is better than 5.

For the record, Ian's right a lot more than we give him credit for. There's nothing wrong with having and sharing an opinion with others.

And what would he be right about? Personally I think people find Ian's super negative outlook about Nintendo to get tiresome, everything Nintendo is doing is wrong. The Wii name was going to destroy them, the Wii was going to be a bomb, Nintendo doesn't know what they are doing, etc etc. Just like someone who is always positive or nearly so, someone that is always negative, never giving any credit where it is due, makes their opinion much harder to swallo.

Kairon · « **Reply #71 on:** August 26, 2007, 07:38:47 PM »

Good grief.

ANYWAYS!!!

Anyone anticipate Nintendo running this commercial all the way up 'till Christmas?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #72 on:** August 26, 2007, 07:40:22 PM »

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Good grief.

ANYWAYS!!!

Anyone anticipate Nintendo running this commercial all the way up 'till Christmas?

I want to talk about Ian, stop derailing this.

Mashiro · « **Reply #73 on:** August 27, 2007, 12:40:08 AM »

I anticipate a trisect commercial with Galaxy, Prime and Smash . . .

Stogi · « **Reply #74 on:** August 27, 2007, 06:53:06 AM »

Mmmmm

Brownies and ice cream...

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